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Try to look at Islam academically.

Your interpretation.

Thanks for my knee-slapper of the day. I don't think you could possibly be more vague.

Look, if you have nothing, and trust me, you DO have nothing, it's not a great move to make it so painfully obvious.
 
Thanks for my knee-slapper of the day. I don't think you could possibly be more vague.

Look, if you have nothing, and trust me, you DO have nothing, it's not a great move to make it so painfully obvious.

You've already basically admitted to disconnecting for this Islamophobia. You recommended that we do what you did - disconnect from neighbors, friends and coworkers, so as to join the cult.

You're never gonna change. I'm wasting my time. They got you.
 
Your interpretation.

Let's try a different approach. Given that I have this cuh-raaaazy idea that Islamic terrorists are trying to kill infidels because verse 9:29 says, "Kill infidels....etc", and we all know that can't be the reason, why don't you unlock the mystery for us. After all, if you can say that my "interpretation" is wrong, then simple logic tells us you know what's right. So why the secrecy?? Please enlighten us (oh, and be sure to use words like 'disaffected' and 'marginalized', because they paint such a clear picture).
 
Your interpretation.

Sooooo, how's that tutorial coming along? I can't wait to see what the real interpretation of "kill the infidels" is. Could it actually mean, "invite them to tea and have a chat"????? I await with bated breath.
 

Wise words. In a way this what those of us who have lived in Islamic countries try to do. Look at facts and outcomes objectively. for example in Kuwait I had good Muslim colleagues and friends (btw all Palestinians not Kuwaitis) but that did not not change my dislike of Islam as a philosophy, legal system and political programme.

(one of the problems with 'Palestine' is that nearly all the able hardworking people have left long since and are spread across the Arab world.)
 
It is something that the west needs to debate. Does Islam allow Muslims to assimilate in the west? Is Islam compatible with the west?

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Many Muslims are compatible with the West. I cite my dentist as an example; she came to Sweden as a small child from Morocco. But Islam, supremely intolerant, does not fit into the European that is 'West', post-Enlightenment society in which religion has gradually come to be understood as a matter for the individual not the state.
 
Don't defame them as a whole.
There. Problem solved.

What is being criticised is not a 'them', that is Muslims. But an 'it', that is Islam. Islam runs contrary to Western values of tolerance acceptance of individual rights. It promotes a cruel and blatantly unjust legal system and theocracy and those who try to shut down all criticism of Islam are contemptible appeasers.
 
Is Judaism?

Jews make an enormous contribution to Western society. Originally in banking and commerce but now in science, the arts, medicine and every other field of human endeavour. So the answere is No, Judaiism does not preent assimulation into toleraant and open Western society.
 
No, that's what your little Islamophobic cult does. We know you got the same advice you're giving. You disconnected for this BS. Pathetic.

So no debate, no informed discussion. Just trotting out the idiot word 'Islamophobic'. Pathetic indeed and entirely expected from a poster who has never contributed even one interesting idea.
 

Not much point in engaging in disscussion with a fool who is unable to do anything but parrot the idiot word, 'Islamophobia'.

Sometimes an attempt is made to equate said Islamophobia with hatred of Jews. Here is a good piece by Douglas Murray explaining why this is not the case.

The false equivalence between ‘Islamophobia’ and anti-Semitism | Coffee House
 

I find the only reason people say that criticisms of Islam are somehow defaming Muslims is to avoid addressing such criticisms.

Muslims vary, many of them take scripture literally others do not.

People thinking that all of them do and therefore when you criticize part of Islam you are somehow criticising all Muslims are first bigoted against Muslims, second hypocritical they wouldn't defend Christians from criticism of Christianity.
 
But that is the same for other religions, like Christianity and Judaism. IF you follow it according to the teachings then it is a way of life. Hell, back in my younger Born-Again-Christian days my life revolved around my faith.
I agree with you on Judaism but not Christianity. There are a such thing as ethnic Jews but there isn't a such thing as ethnic Christians.

Where yes practicing various forms of Judaism requires special dress, behavior and habits as do certain forms of Christianity but many of not all religions do this to some degree. So I consider such things trappings of religion not ethnic it cultural background.
 
Demonstrably so.

How has a huge influx of Muslims worked out in Europe?

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The Old Testament dictates some pretty heinous ****, why are you comfortable with that religion being integrated into our society?
 
The Old Testament dictates some pretty heinous ****, why are you comfortable with that religion being integrated into our society?

If I may reply: Because Europe is mainly post-Christian. Only a small minority of Swedes, for example, know what is is the Bible and even fewer care. Christianity is tamed and powerless which is why we are unconcerned that it is not yet quite dead.
 
Fundamentalism is a form of mental illness, like hard drug addiction.

I don't know about that. Jesus was a fundamentalist and he was arguably the finest example of love the world has ever seen. Thomas Jefferson called Christ’s teachings “the most sublime and benevolent code of morals which has ever been offered to man.”

On the other hand, there's liberal fundamentalism.

Beware of Liberal Fundamentalism

"Rather than truly embrace “freedom,” liberal fundamentalists seek to control virtually every aspect of the lives of the masses that are unfortunate enough to be under their fundamentalist rulership. They seek to outlaw SUV’s, impose smoking bans while advocating marijuana use, prohibit freedom of religious expression in government and public schools, advocate compulsory training in politically correct opinions and attitudes, seek to enforce Bible bans in schools and the workplace, embrace a de-facto litmus test against pro-life judicial nominees, seek to criminalize pro-life demonstrations through the RICO racketeering statute, try to squelch legitimate religious speech via “hate-speech” laws (note Canada), and generally engage in a wide range of behaviors designed to subvert the U.S. Constitution and traditional American values."

"It is certainly arguable, then, that “progressive” liberal fundamentalism substantially undermines the basic effectiveness of the government and other societal elements of democracy. Despite the idealistic goals of liberalism, attempts to build a utopian liberal society in America have only led to heightened outbreaks of AIDS, VD, porno-related crime, social divisions, divorce, abortion, drug addictions, deficit spending, the welfare state, a crushing tax burden, the breakdown of the family unit, moral depravity, and numerous other such scourges which have resulted in enormous societal suffering and discontent. As a result, liberal fundamentalism is strongly associated with left-wing fanaticism, reverse-racism, anti-intellectualism, elitism, nihilism, godlessness, and societal violence."

Liberal Fundamentalism << The Righter Report

Cheers...
 

That seems to be totally irrelevant to religion, and highly inaccurate, full of logical fallacies, misunderstandings, and lies.
 

That is not quite right. I was a 'Catholic child' because my mother was a Catholic. Italians were Catholic because hundreds of generations of their ancestors were. That's 'ethnic' enough to meet any reasonable definition.

I do hope you are not implying that Jews are somehow a 'race'.
 

Fundamentalist Christianity is a powerful religious and political force in the USA, so some of us here are still concerned about it. Muslims are vastly outnumbered.
 
Fundamentalist Christianity is a powerful religious and political force in the USA, so some of us here are still concerned about it. Muslims are vastly outnumbered.

Define fundamentalist Christianity and tell us why it's detrimental to society?
 
Ramoss, take your left-wing, politically-correct, anti-Christianity bs on down the pike.

As opposed to your right wing, anti-humanity anti-God bs?
 
Fundamentalist Christianity is a powerful religious and political force in the USA, so some of us here are still concerned about it. Muslims are vastly outnumbered.

Here in Sweden we have about 10% Muslim. As very few 'Christian' Swedes are religious it is quite possible that Islam is the largest practicing faith.

How many Muslims live in Sweden? - Quora
 
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