No, that was Adam and Eve who were made perfect...their disobedience lost perfection for themselves, as well as all their offspring when they passed their imperfect genes on to us all...Are you saying when we were born we were perfectly created in his image?
Nobody is born perfect so what do you think?Is this also true about kids born with birth defects or did that happen because of the original sin they came into those world possessing somehow.
I have not contradicted myself...I honestly don't understand how folks like you do not see the constant contradictions of your beliefs?
Actually you have contradicted yourself. Below is the proof.I have not contradicted myself...
I haven't really trusted myself since I was in my early 20s, and I think I was wrong then.As an adult do you not know the difference between right and wrong? Does a book have to tell you? What's with this belief in an all powerful imaginary being that is invisible? To my knowledge not a person has proved this entity even exists yet I'm told my many I should ask for forgiveness from this invisible entity and then worship said entity?
Sorry, but that sounds crazy to me even after ten years of catholic school.
Actually, that is not a contradiction...I don't listen to preachers because they teach false doctrines and I have no reason to since I know the truth of God's Word....nice try though...Actually you have contradicted yourself. Below is the proof.
Daisy said:
Sorry, I don't listen to preachers...
@Daisy/Elora said:
We are preachers/teachers
Of course it's a blatant contraction, unless you no longer "listen to the preachers" (plural) you are referencing in your below posted words.Actually, that is not a contradiction...I don't listen to preachers because they teach false doctrines and I have no reason to since I know the truth of God's Word....nice try though...
As preachers/teachers ourselves we do not listen to the false doctrines that other preachers/teachers embrace...Of course it's a blatant contraction, unless you no longer "listen to the preachers" (plural) you are referencing in your below posted words.
@Daisy/Elora said:
We are preachers/teachers
You are clearly moving the goalposts, Daisy. There is no mention of "false doctrines" in either of the post links presented in post #427. (fact)As preachers/teachers ourselves we do not listen to the false doctrines that other preachers/teachers embrace...
Nope, that is what I meant from the very beginning with my comments but you chose to make a mountain out of a mole hill...not my fault if you jumped to conclusions before having all the facts...You are clearly moving the goalposts, Daisy. There is no mention of "false doctrines" in either of the post links presented in post #427. (fact)
Then you should have posted "what you meant". Other DP members can only respond to/address the words you "actually" posted.Nope, that is what I meant from the very beginning with my comments but you chose to make a mountain out of a mole hill...not my fault if you jumped to conclusions before having all the facts...
Sorry, I can't give you a life history...perhaps you shoulda asked for clarification before you took it and run with it...just sayin'...Then you should have posted "what you meant". Other DP members can only respond to/address the words you "actually" posted.
I understand. I can say I started trusting myself after about a dozen years of not being a heroin addict. I was about fifty.I haven't really trusted myself since I was in my early 20s, and I think I was wrong then.
Experience of making mistakes and being wrong.
I don't trust in any deity either though.
No need to ask for clarification, Daisy. If you are incapable of making yourself "clear" in your posts. It's your responsibility to make yourself "clear", instead of attempting to shift your responsibility to the DP member/s who can only address what you have actually posted.Sorry, I can't give you a life history...perhaps you shoulda asked for clarification before you took it and run with it...just sayin'...
I like short precise posts...if that bugs you...tough...No need to ask for clarification, Daisy. If you are incapable of making yourself "clear" in your posts, it's your responsibility to make yourself "clear", instead of attempting to shift your responsibility to the DP member/s who can only address what you have actually posted.
And these are just our defensive weapons.
Your "short precise (unclear) posts" by your own admission, resulted in your contradictory posts as is clearly demonstrated in post #247.I like short precise posts...if that bugs you...tough...
No, I did not even post both comments in the same post...when you take posts out of context like you've been known to do, you are the one deliberately screwing up...it's a game you like to play...Your "short precise (unclear) posts" by your own admission, resulted in your contradictory posts as is clearly demonstrated in post #247.
Is Catholicism a "false doctrine" in Jehovah Witness "teachings/preachings" @Daisy? A "short precise" Yes or No response will suffice.As preachers/teachers ourselves we do not listen to the false doctrines that other preachers/teachers embrace...
No "games are being played", Daisy. Nothing was "taken out of context". The post links presented in your two contradictory posts validate this fact.No, I did not even post both comments in the same post...when you take posts out of context like you've been known to do, you are the one deliberately screwing up...it's a game you like to play...
No "games are being played", Daisy. Nothing was "taken out of context". The post links presented in your two contradictory posts validate this fact.
You've already admitted up thread what you "meant to say" is not one and the same as what you had previously "said"/posted. Hence your failed attempt to move the goalpost 'after the fact', which resulted in your losing the debating point.
Time to accept your clear defeat and move on.
lol...deceit is your thing, not mine...No "games are being played", Daisy. Nothing was "taken out of context". The post links presented in your two contradictory posts validate this fact.
You've already admitted up thread what you "meant to say" is not one and the same as what you had previously "said"/posted. Hence your failed attempt to move the goalpost 'after the fact', which resulted in your losing the debating point. Time to accept your clear defeat and move on.
So very, very wrong yet again, Daisy.lol...deceit is your thing, not mine...
A personal god watching out for you, how cozy and comforting.Hang on a sec!
Wait a minute!
Hold it right there!
How do you know it wasn't GOD who gave you that idea?
Even the plan to move to Florida?
How do you know it wasn't GOD who gave you that strength and resolve to kick out that habit once and for all?
What response from God were you expecting?
A spectacular miracle?
Emotionally appealing too. Like a child playing with their imaginary friend.A personal god watching out for you, how cozy and comforting.
Thank you for posting the links so anyone can follow them to see I was speaking of 2 different topics...one had to do with preachers outside of jw.org and the other had to do with preachers inside of jw.org...much appreciated...So very, very wrong yet again, Daisy.
If there was 'any' intent to "deceive", the links to your two contradictory posts would not have been provided for all DP members to observe.
You are welcome, Daisy.Thank you for posting the links so anyone can follow them to see I was speaking of 2 different topics...one had to do with preachers outside of jw.org and the other had to do with preachers inside of jw.org...much appreciated...
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