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Trumpsters will be happy, another round of Hillary investigations!

Luckyone said:
You did not answer the question.

If they find there is no collusion with Russia but they do find that Trump is a crook and corrupt, would you still support him?
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IDK, if the queen had balls would she be king? Lol
 
As to the basic topic - let us not forget that Strzok was heavily involved in the Clinton investigations. And, emails were subpoenaed, not delivered and there was no DOJ action taken. Those subpoenaed emails were destroyed and there was no action by the DOJ. Clinton staffers were allowed (by the DOJ) to destroy their iphones. And there is so much more. It seems that a real investigation is called for.
 
ray188 said:
As to the basic topic - let us not forget that Strzok was heavily involved in the Clinton investigations. And, emails were subpoenaed, not delivered and there was no DOJ action taken. Those subpoenaed emails were destroyed and there was no action by the DOJ. Clinton staffers were allowed (by the DOJ) to destroy their iphones. And there is so much more. It seems that a real investigation is called for.
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Bingo!

But be careful, not many here will want to talk about that. It doesn’t fit the “we hate trump” narrative.
 
BuzzwordBingo said:
IDK, if the queen had balls would she be king? Lol
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You don't know? but you do know about the things you state, right?

It is a simple question and one that should be easy to answer. Would you still support Trump if found that he is corrupt and a crook?

This is not a question that can be compared with "if the queen had balls" given that is not even a possibility. On the other side of the coin, 6 people that have worked for Trump have either plead guilty or convicted of breaking the law, meaning that the probabilities actually favor Trump doing the same thing............or being so incompetent in choosing his people that he should not even be running a kindergarten school. I mean, if you choose crooks to work with you, you are either a crook yourself of totally incompetent.

So, just answer the question. It will not put you in any risk as it is right now just a possibility and not a done thing. Would you still support Trump if he is found out to be corrupt and a crook? You certainly knew how to answer that question when it was Hillary you were talking about.
 
Luckyone said:
You don't know? but you do know about the things you state, right?

It is a simple question and one that should be easy to answer. Would you still support Trump if found that he is corrupt and a crook?

This is not a question that can be compared with "if the queen had balls" given that is not even a possibility. On the other side of the coin, 6 people that have worked for Trump have either plead guilty or convicted of breaking the law, meaning that the probabilities actually favor Trump doing the same thing............or being so incompetent in choosing his people that he should not even be running a kindergarten school. I mean, if you choose crooks to work with you, you are either a crook yourself of totally incompetent.

So, just answer the question. It will not put you in any risk as it is right now just a possibility and not a done thing. Would you still support Trump if he is found out to be corrupt and a crook? You certainly knew how to answer that question when it was Hillary you were talking about.
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Look your question is a hypothetical, I don’t deal in hypotheticals. We are talking about a serious matter here where liberals want to impeach a sitting president. I have stated many times in this thread there is no evidence that trump colluded with Russians. If you have proof then please share, if not spare me the hypothetical questions that have nothing to do with what we are discussing.
 
Luckyone said:
Yeah, when the fight is between good and evil (God and the Devil), whatever ammunition is available to expose the Devil should be used, especially with so many minions that the Devil has working for him. I even use a cross and put it on the computer when talking about Trump. I dress in white and have garlic with me all the time. Whatever ammunition I can get I go for. Then again, it is so easy to expose Trump. Unfortunately for him, he is totally incompetent and he gives ammunition to use against him every day........and now, some of his faithful minions (Cohen, Pecker, and Weisenburg) are turning on him and will make the job easier. God be praised!

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You guys claim that Democrats are good and Republicans are evil but apparently the voters see it the other way around.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
So you're admitting your statement is merely an assertion, not based in reality.

I'm cool with that. Thanks for coming clean about that.
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Repeat after me, no evidence of collusion. Lol
 
BuzzwordBingo said:
Look your question is a hypothetical, I don’t deal in hypotheticals. We are talking about a serious matter here where liberals want to impeach a sitting president. I have stated many times in this thread there is no evidence that trump colluded with Russians. If you have proof then please share, if not spare me the hypothetical questions that have nothing to do with what we are discussing.
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What I am talking about is your principles. This may be a hypothetical question but the response would show what kind of a person you are. Do you support crime? Do you believe in the Constitution? Do you believe in being responsible for your actions.


and you could not answer the question.............. this suggests that either you don't know your own principles (highly unlikely) or you aren't an impartial person (a sect member in other words). Either way and in my book, your inability to show what you believe in, as far as principles are concerned, makes you a person not worth talking to, given that I don't know what you believe in. You cannot have a debate with a brick wall.
 
Moderate Right said:
You guys claim that Democrats are good and Republicans are evil but apparently the voters see it the other way around.
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What are you talking about? This is not about Republicans and Democrats. Not once have I mentioned either. This is about Trump and your morals, ethics, principles and humanity. This is not a party issue, this is a people issue.
 
independentusa said:
Just heard that the GOP in Congress are going after Hillary again for her emails. Don't know if they are just being partisan or hoping that this will take the attention away from Trump's problems. I can see thirty years from now the GOP going after Hillary or Bill after they are dead to take the attention away from some other GOPer. They have spent almost 200 million dollars on these Clinton investigations already and found nothing but he did have sex with that woman. Maybe we should take it out of their pay if they continue. I bet that might stop this stupidity.
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Regardless of your anti GOP rhetoric, she broke the law and was not prosecuted because of a corrupt DOJ. Any other government worker would have been prosecuted and you know it.

You say they found nothing while she was wiping hard drives, smashing cell phones, and her husband having a private meeting on the tarmac with the Attorney General which gave her a easy way out of actually prosecuting by recusing herself and leaving the prosecutorial decisions to be made by a democrat foot soldier named Comey.


I don't like Trump either and I hope his world burns to the ground if he is found guilty, but I would also like the same investigative standards & protocol followed with Clinton.
 
Luckyone said:
What I am talking about is your principles. This may be a hypothetical question but the response would show what kind of a person you are. Do you support crime? Do you believe in the Constitution? Do you believe in being responsible for your actions.


and you could not answer the question.............. this suggests that either you don't know your own principles (highly unlikely) or you aren't an impartial person (a sect member in other words). Either way and in my book, your inability to show what you believe in, as far as principles are concerned, makes you a person not worth talking to, given that I don't know what you believe in. You cannot have a debate with a brick wall.
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This thread is not about my principles, and honestly it’s none of your business how I would answer a hypothetical question about something not even related to the thread. So there’s that.
 
BuzzwordBingo said:
This thread is not about my principles, and honestly it’s none of your business how I would answer a hypothetical question about something not even related to the thread. So there’s that.
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Deflect, deflect, deflect.

If you are going to debate any issue your own principles about issues in general is in question. You don't go to the butcher to discuss brain surgery. Your qualifications as a debater have to be made before anyone pays attention to you.

Nonetheless, now that you have stated that you will not give your credentials/principles, I will ignore you. I like to debate with people that I respect and with your answer, I have lost all respect for you.
 
BuzzwordBingo said:
It has? That’s news or me. Can you provide a link?
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Manafort and JRs meeting and emails are public knowledge, the subsequent actions prove it all.

Enough of the Don's inner circle that know when and how it went down have flipped it is a slam dunk.

Even if an impeachment may not be politically advantageous to Democrats, justice demands it.

We have a traitor in the Whitehouse...
 
Luckyone said:
What are you talking about? This is not about Republicans and Democrats. Not once have I mentioned either. This is about Trump and your morals, ethics, principles and humanity. This is not a party issue, this is a people issue.
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Most of the left equate Republicans as being evil, in many ways. Maybe you don't but they do.
 
Moderate Right said:
Most of the left equate Republicans as being evil, in many ways. Maybe you don't but they do.
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I don't normally equate Republicans as evil though I must admit that the ones that support Trump have made me question their sanity and their principles.
 
Luckyone said:
What I am talking about is your principles. This may be a hypothetical question but the response would show what kind of a person you are. Do you support crime? Do you believe in the Constitution? Do you believe in being responsible for your actions.


and you could not answer the question.............. this suggests that either you don't know your own principles (highly unlikely) or you aren't an impartial person (a sect member in other words). Either way and in my book, your inability to show what you believe in, as far as principles are concerned, makes you a person not worth talking to, given that I don't know what you believe in. You cannot have a debate with a brick wall.
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How bout this question, and it’s not hypothetical, do you think Hillery shouldn’t be charged with the crimes she committed?


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MrShangles said:
How bout this question, and it’s not hypothetical, do you think Hillery shouldn’t be charged with the crimes she committed?


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No, I do not. I think she was already investigated and found not guilty. Whether you think the investigation was bogus or not, the bottom line is that is was LEGAL and as far as the law is concerned, that is what is important.

I personally think that OJ was guilty of murdering his wife and the boyfriend but he was exonerated of the crime and could not be prosecuted for the crime thereafter. You learn to live with it and forget about it, especially in the case that trying to put her in jail would not solve any problem. It would nothing but vengeance on the part of the Republicans and not be a positive for the country. Is that what you want?
 
Luckyone said:
You think that showing me dirt on Hillary that I can use to compare with what Trump is doing, that is just as bad and actually is much worse, is not ammunition? Comparing Trump with Hillary is like comparing Goliath and David, as far as who has done more bad things.
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So much for the #Metoo movement. Liberals call rape victims liars if their favorite politician is the accused. Look, if you really think Trump is worse than Hillary-- the denial suffered is irreversible. You have my condolences.
 
Oceanborn said:
So much for the #Metoo movement. Liberals call rape victims liars if their favorite politician is the accused. Look, if you really think Trump is worse than Hillary-- the denial suffered is irreversible. You have my condolences.
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Ditto back to you (regarding condolences). At least, Hillary had some humanity, which Trump has none of. In her life she did work for the benefit of others and accomplished much (see link below)

https://www.thebalance.com/hillary-clinton-s-accomplishments-4101811

Whatever you think of her and whatever she may have done to help herself and Bill, the reality is that she had humanity.

In that respect, and in most others, I think that Hillary is miles above Trump. This is not to say that I don't have anything negative to say about her as if you look you can always find negatives in people. No one is perfect.

Trump has no morals, ethics, principles or humanity and to me, those are the important aspects of a person. Respect for each other, like I show with all the Trump supporters here, is what in my book needs to exist. We all have differences of opinion and different ways to look at things, as well as different values. But bullying, disrespecting, abasing, and attacking the other person because of the differences is a "no" for me.

In that respect and in my opinion, Trump is the worst I have ever seen and that is not a small thing because I am 73 years old and have lived a full life with more experiences than probably anyone else. In addition, I have worked closely with people like Trump when I was young and saw what the end result was. Trump is the worst. He truly is evil as he cares about no one but himself and would step on his own mother if it would give him a gain.

There is no way that Trump can be compared to Hillary or to any other President or wanna-be President that ever existed. Trump has reached me to the core with the kind of person he is, to the point that in my entire life I never voted before and Trump caused me to vote for the first time in my life.

If you are so blind and to not see the evil in that man, I truly feel sorry for you, especially since the people that will get hurt the most by Trump are those that believe in him. See Cohen for example.
 
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