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Trump's Wife Denies Biden's Wife

shrug...

Looks like the media won't get a news story that they can spin around with because the two ladies won't being meeting.
My guess is Melania won't live in the WH this time around. She never wanted to last time, I know she has no desire to be a part of it this time.

Donald can probably find himself a few Monica's around the WH anyway.
 
Yes four years of bitching, whining, moaning and caterwauling about anything and everything no matter how great or insignificant. I'm not going down the rabbit hole of defending Trump against an endless barrage of attacks. If I think his administration screws up I'll let you know.

You only need defend against one. I made it and you, and no other Trump supporter, answered it:

That Trump is likely a pathological case may be a question, but that he is a horrendous example of humanity is not. He’s injured far too many people for profit for that not to be blatantly obvious, even to the ethically challenged.

So the question remains, politics aside, how does one support such a social deviant (a violator of social ethical norms; it doesn’t have to be sexual, though Trump has plenty of evidence he violates social norms in that area as well) for high office without suggesting they, themselves, have ethical and character issues?

How do they support/vote for the s##mbag without their own slip showing?

Still waiting for an answer…
 
My guess is Melania won't live in the WH this time around. She never wanted to last time, I know she has no desire to be a part of it this time.

Donald can probably find himself a few Monica's around the WH anyway.
Its not part of the new prenup I am sure.
 
You only need defend against one. I made it and you, and no other Trump supporter, answered it:

That Trump is likely a pathological case may be a question, but that he is a horrendous example of humanity is not. He’s injured far too many people for profit for that not to be blatantly obvious, even to the ethically challenged.

So the question remains, politics aside, how does one support such a social deviant (a violator of social ethical norms; it doesn’t have to be sexual, though Trump has plenty of evidence he violates social norms in that area as well) for high office without suggesting they, themselves, have ethical and character issues?

How do they support/vote for the s##mbag without their own slip showing?

Still waiting for an answer…
I suspect you've gotten answers...you just didn't like them.

First thing to understand is Republicans and conservatives have been inundated for years by the left with an endless litany of how evil, perverted, deranged, racist, misogynist, narcissistic and egotistical Trump is. According to you people, Hitler was a nice humble virtuous guy compared to Satan himself, Trump. It gets to a point you start shutting it out. You can't have a conversation or dialog with anyone who's reached this degree of burning hatred. We also have a four year history of his presidency. Despite all the sky is falling rhetoric the sky didn't fall. Despite all the evil things that were sure to befall us if Trump became president, no such catastrophe occurred. If the rhetoric lined up with what actually happened in Trumps administration he would have had no chance of winning the nomination, never mind the presidency.

What you really need to ask yourself is why people voted for Trump in such numbers that he won the popular vote. Where did the democrat party in general and Harris in particular go wrong? Apparently you believe Trump is so wretched a person that people would vote for Harris regardless of whether she could answer questions, formulate a vision for the future. She really sunk her chances when she kept up this denial that anyone had reason to complain about the past four years and that she herself can't think of anything she'd do different. At the same time one of her many vacillating themes was 'Were going to turn the page' indicating that things need to be changed while denying there was anything that needed changing.

The border...the border...the border. You lost your own party with this issue. Its uncanny how badly that was handled. This was an issue Trump rode high on in 2016 and helped sweep him into office. So what did the administration do? Opened up the flood gates and then spend the first three years denying the border is open. As a result fentanyl flowed into the country to the tune of 100,000 deaths per year. You speak of Trump being diabolically evil yet the policy of democrats made millionaires out of cartels that run Mexico. The Biden administration managed to lose 300,000 children who came over the border. While working class people struggled they look over their shoulder and see illegal aliens living in 5 star hotels. They also wanted the struggling working class to pay for well to do student loans. Is there anyway you can rationalize that would be a popular policy?

How often do you think you can shove unpopular policies down peoples throats before they rebel? I wager that most liberal democrats don't like former men competing in women's sports. They don't like having to support such an absurd policy. There is no rationale that defends such a policy except the bizarre notion that sex is a mental construct. This is a party who's leaders refuse to say what the word woman means not because they don't know, they don't want to offend the lunatics in their party.

I could go on for pages but I don't really need to. Listen to your fellow democrats who are giving postmortems to this election. Its not Trumps fault he won, its the democrats fault for enforcing one unpopular policy after another.

The proof that your party screwed up royally is the fact Trump (the man you think is the worse human on the planet) got re-elected handily. As Bill Maher said, 'Losers look in the mirror'.
 
I suspect you've gotten answers...you just didn't like them.

Never an answer to that specific question. Dodges. Diversions. "Well what about this and that.". "Well how come this and the other thing." Never a straight. to the point, answer to the specific question asked.

When I respond, "OK, but that doesn't answer the question I asked." Crickets.

I have asked you it a few times yourself. I haven't heard back from you on it yet.

First thing to understand is Republicans and conservatives have been inundated for years by the left with an endless litany of how evil, perverted, deranged, racist, misogynist, narcissistic and egotistical Trump is.

I could give a rat's ass about what other folks have said. I am a law enforcer making a case. I presented the evidence. I asked how you find based on that evidence. I get, "Well what about what that guy did?" Not the question.

The few with balls enough to admit, "Yeah, OK, Trump is a criminal." I ask the follow up question, "Fine, then how do you ethically justify giving a criminal the seat of power; one of the, if not the most, power seat of power in the world?" Again, "Well. what about this and that"". Again, not the question. I point that out. Crickets.


According to you people, Hitler was a nice humble virtuous guy compared to Satan himself, Trump.

Bull crap. I never did any such thing and its MY question being pointed at you and others, not anyone else's.

It gets to a point you start shutting it out.

Of that I have no doubt.


You can't have a conversation or dialog with anyone who's reached this degree of burning hatred.

I don't hate. I do not understand and I want to, because it defies logic, ethics and common sense and those are the things my mind works with so this is foreign to me. I certainly have seen it before. In my line of work I run into many unethical people. Some of them are decent, ordinary folk under bad circumstances making unethical choices under great duress. It doesn't excuse the unethical choice. I makes it understandable.

Are you acting under great duress? It wouldn't appear so. I do NOT understand the rationalization that makes giving a very obviously bad person, who had hurt very many people, a very power seat with the ability now to hurt vastly more people. I defies logic and common sense.

That simply is what the facts paint it to be, a huge fail in the areas of logic and common sense in regards to the ethical considerations of this human equation. EPIC fail on the part of Trump supporters. The facts back that up. What i want from Trump supporters is why were you able to ignore those facts and void the common sense, logical, decision that right was the correct choice not matter what else was being promised?
 
Never an answer to that specific question. Dodges. Diversions. "Well what about this and that.". "Well how come this and the other thing." Never a straight. to the point, answer to the specific question asked.
Your question is why did people vote for a man you believe is of horribly ill repute and character. I gave you just a few reasons why he won and Harris Biden lost despite how horrifically flawed Trump is. The fact he won big despite how wretchedly horrible a person he (in your mind) is should tell you all you need to know about the party you support over Trump.

You know that Biden isn't exactly a sterling character. You can't convince me he had no clue about his son's dealings. If he didn't that's just as bad. You know that Biden has been purloining classified documents with no authority to do so for the past 30 years but I assume you believe had Biden stayed in the race, he too should have won over a dastardly lout like Trump. You know Biden is guilty of plagiarizing which you seem willing to give a pass. As far as lying goes Biden is no slouch. He continued to tell stories that were already refuted. His administration lied profusely over the border situation.

I don't think you want an explanation for why Trump won I think you prefer to stew in your own juices. So be it.
 
hahaha - What's with our women? 😁




‘Snubbed and scorned’: Jill Biden's icy reception to Kamala Harris


 
Well, if the source is correct, the FBI was authorized to go through her underwear drawer -- can you really blame her? I can't.
They weren't designated as a search area, the drawer was in the search warrant.

If you are married to a criminal, you pay the piper.
 
Is there something in the USA constitution or in laws that spell out the First Ladies' duties?
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The Huff should have vetted their source, don't you think?
The Huff reported that the NY Post reported this story....which is a completely verifiable fact.

Fox News relies extensively on reporting the stories reported by other agencies. This is not unusual.
I think you just didn't notice that it was a NY Post story.....
 
Your question is why did people vote for a man you believe is of horribly ill repute and character.

That wasn't my original question at all.

My original question to you was this:

I positied that Trump was a horrible man. I gave the reasons why it was indisputably so, BUT should you want to dispute it make your case. You didn't. Then you gave your reasons why he won. I didn't care why he won. I know why he won. I asked how you could vote for such a man, not as how I belived him to be, but how you could possible NOT believe him to be.

I invite you again to dispute the formal, very well documented, record that clearly paints Trump to be a truly amazingly unethical man?

When you can't, and you won't be able to, than. answer how you could vote for such a man without calling your own character and ethics into question?
 
I mean, really, what do they have to talk about? The White House china? The role, if it can be called that, of First Lady doesn’t require transition planning.
I see what you mean. Jill Biden has been a teacher. Melania trump has been a porn actor.

Not much in common, save four years in the WH in the roles of First Lady.
 
Is there something in the USA constitution or in laws that spell out the First Ladies' duties?
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Tradition and norms. According to conservatives, women, especially wives, are supposed to stand by, support their husbands. Now your making excuses for Mrs. Trump if she chooses not to participate, which of course is her choice.

Personally, I don't blame her one bit. I'm just point out the obvious hypocrisy of some.
 
Jill is classy...Melania not so much.
You have to remember the prerequisites for 'classy' in the MAGA world. Being 'hot' is pretty much all it takes.
Melania will not arrive in January. All of the bathroom plumbing will need to be replaced (as it was 2017) first.
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Tradition and norms. According to conservatives, women, especially wives, are supposed to stand by, support their husbands. Now your making excuses for Mrs. Trump if she chooses not to participate, which of course is her choice.

Personally, I don't blame her one bit. I'm just point out the obvious hypocrisy of some.
I'm not making excuses for anyone. I simply asked a question. BTW, its you're not your.
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That wasn't my original question at all.

My original question to you was this:

I positied that Trump was a horrible man. I gave the reasons why it was indisputably so, BUT should you want to dispute it make your case. You didn't. Then you gave your reasons why he won. I didn't care why he won. I know why he won. I asked how you could vote for such a man, not as how I belived him to be, but how you could possible NOT believe him to be.

I invite you again to dispute the formal, very well documented, record that clearly paints Trump to be a truly amazingly unethical man?

When you can't, and you won't be able to, than. answer how you could vote for such a man without calling your own character and ethics into question?
I don't claim to be of perfect moral character or one who has operated under the highest ethics at all times. If you claim you are I'll point out your first character flaw, lying. He has been a hard nosed business man for most of his life. Are there any such men who have reached such a pinnacle without once falling short of truly ethical behavior at all times? Have you heard the saying 'let him who without sin cast the first stone'. When it comes to falling short ethically you know Clinton fell quite short, so did Kennedy. Would you have not voted for them for that reason?

There is a difference between being unethical or immoral as all of us are (except you) and being diabolically evil or incapable of being president. Trump was president for four years. He didn't throw his enemies in jail, suspend the constitution, take over the military. When Covid struck he could have taken emergency powers like many liberal governors did. Instead he let the governors do as they saw fit. Had Biden done better in the debate would you vote for him knowing he clearly assisted his son in his influence peddling schemes? Did you shame others for voting for Biden because he had been stealing classified documents for years as a senator and as the VP?

What about Harris? Was it perfectly ethical to hide Biden's condition and to lie about profusely? Was it ethical (or even common sense) to claim the border is closed and secure as we watch 11 million people cross over. Was it ethical (or honest) of her to change nearly all her positions from the 2020 campaign? You didn't mind that her positions were now the same as Trump after all she's just lying to get into office...perfectly ethical.

You're just on your high horse because you detest Trump which is a good reason for you not to vote for him. Your high ethics didn't stop you from voting for other presidents who fell short of your high standards right?
 
Well, if the source is correct, the FBI was authorized to go through her underwear drawer -- can you really blame her? I can't.
Do you honestly think that authorization came from Joe Biden's desk?
 
I suspect you've gotten answers...you just didn't like them.

First thing to understand is Republicans and conservatives have been inundated for years by the left with an endless litany of how evil, perverted, deranged, racist, misogynist, narcissistic and egotistical Trump is. According to you people, Hitler was a nice humble virtuous guy compared to Satan himself, Trump. It gets to a point you start shutting it out. You can't have a conversation or dialog with anyone who's reached this degree of burning hatred. We also have a four year history of his presidency. Despite all the sky is falling rhetoric the sky didn't fall. Despite all the evil things that were sure to befall us if Trump became president, no such catastrophe occurred. If the rhetoric lined up with what actually happened in Trumps administration he would have had no chance of winning the nomination, never mind the presidency.

What you really need to ask yourself is why people voted for Trump in such numbers that he won the popular vote. Where did the democrat party in general and Harris in particular go wrong? Apparently you believe Trump is so wretched a person that people would vote for Harris regardless of whether she could answer questions, formulate a vision for the future. She really sunk her chances when she kept up this denial that anyone had reason to complain about the past four years and that she herself can't think of anything she'd do different. At the same time one of her many vacillating themes was 'Were going to turn the page' indicating that things need to be changed while denying there was anything that needed changing.

The border...the border...the border. You lost your own party with this issue. Its uncanny how badly that was handled. This was an issue Trump rode high on in 2016 and helped sweep him into office. So what did the administration do? Opened up the flood gates and then spend the first three years denying the border is open. As a result fentanyl flowed into the country to the tune of 100,000 deaths per year. You speak of Trump being diabolically evil yet the policy of democrats made millionaires out of cartels that run Mexico. The Biden administration managed to lose 300,000 children who came over the border. While working class people struggled they look over their shoulder and see illegal aliens living in 5 star hotels. They also wanted the struggling working class to pay for well to do student loans. Is there anyway you can rationalize that would be a popular policy?

How often do you think you can shove unpopular policies down peoples throats before they rebel? I wager that most liberal democrats don't like former men competing in women's sports. They don't like having to support such an absurd policy. There is no rationale that defends such a policy except the bizarre notion that sex is a mental construct. This is a party who's leaders refuse to say what the word woman means not because they don't know, they don't want to offend the lunatics in their party.

I could go on for pages but I don't really need to. Listen to your fellow democrats who are giving postmortems to this election. Its not Trumps fault he won, its the democrats fault for enforcing one unpopular policy after another.

The proof that your party screwed up royally is the fact Trump (the man you think is the worse human on the planet) got re-elected handily.
Bingo.
As Bill Maher said, 'Losers look in the mirror'.

They don't own mirrors.
 
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