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Here’s what I hope Robert Mueller will conclude when he is done investigating Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign: The president is innocent of criminal wrongdoing. He did not know of or approve contacts with Russians to influence the election. His interactions with FBI Director James Comey and other Justice Department officials never rose to the level of obstructing justice. But it would require an extraordinary faith in Trump’s character and a stubborn disregard for his behavior to expect that outcome. If there is one inference to be drawn from everything he has done with respect to the investigation and the Russian government, it’s that he suffers from a powerful consciousness of guilt. The latest came in a tweet expressing bitter regret that he didn’t choose someone other than Jeff Sessions for attorney general — because Sessions recused himself and therefore can’t send Mueller packing. Trump doesn’t want a fair and impartial investigation; he wants no investigation. He insists over and over that there was no collusion between his campaign and the Russians. But we already have evidence there was — in the form of guilty pleas by Trump aides Michael Flynn and George Papadopoulos for lying to the FBI about their contacts with Russians.
We have evidence in the 2016 meeting hosted by son Donald Jr. and attended by son-in-law Jared Kushner with a Russian lawyer who had promised information from the Kremlin incriminating Hillary Clinton. Meeting secretly with Russians in hopes of cooperating for mutual benefit is collusion, whether illegal or not. This week, we got confirmation that the statement Donald Jr. issued — claiming the meeting was primarily about adoption issues — was dictated by his father. When The Washington Post reported that last year, the White House denied the story. In a memo to Mueller obtained by The New York Times, however, Trump’s lawyers admitted it was true. Yet he has insisted that “nobody’s found any collusion at any level.” The assertion is not only false; it’s flagrantly, obviously false. Over and over, Trump has resorted to complaints, attacks and deceptions. His shifting position on being interviewed under oath by Mueller likewise betrays him. If that weren’t enough to indicate the president has a large pile of things to hide, Trump now claims the power to grant himself a full pardon. But a pardon would be necessary only if he is guilty of specific crimes. Maybe his pattern of chutzpah and untruth is just the essence of his toxic character, which bubbles over no matter what. But more likely, the conduct of Trump and his attorneys reflects their knowledge that he is guilty of serious offenses and their fear that he will be exposed and punished. He looks like someone terrified of going to prison. Even congressional Republicans say he won’t do anything so foolish as to fire Mueller or pardon himself. But desperate men do desperate things.
Trump's lies betray his desperation
Time, and the evidence, will tell. It's unfortunate that if the disposition verdict is a thumbs-down, any successor will more than likely pardon Donald J. Trump.
And he knows this. Which is why he has decided to keep attacking and obstructing, forcing a constitutional crisis with the hope that the two other branches will back away from the brink.
Than maybe this confrontation needs to happen.
Than maybe this confrontation needs to happen.
That’s funny.But it would require an extraordinary faith in Trump’s character and a stubborn disregard for his behavior to expect that outcome. If there is one inference to be drawn from everything he has done with respect to the investigation and the Russian government, it’s that he suffers from a powerful consciousness of guilt.
It is a witch hunt.
But of course. Michael Flynn and George Papadopoulos pleaded guilty to being witches.
Your Trumpian accusations just don't resonate anymore Zimmer.
A lot of words, signifying comedy.
That’s funny.
He suffers from an investigation which the deputy attorney general did not provide basis for the appointment. He did not provide criminal statutes to investigate.
Why?
There aren't any.
It is a witch hunt.
Oh, how Leftists are going to be pissed when Mueller hands an empty bag regarding collusion and obstruction of justice.
What this exercise has proven is how the FBI, CIA and DoJ were seriously corrupted under Obama.
Hope teh homosexual leftists in here calling for what I think they are, are stocked up on ammo.
It won't do ya much good, but OK...
Remind me to stay out y'alls sight.
Way to lose your composure.
I'm cool, calm, and collected, baby.
Watch what happens on the 11th, something tells me you should bring a change of underwear.
I'm cool, calm, and collected, baby.
Watch what happens on the 11th, something tells me you should bring a change of underwear.
<hint> There's over 100 indictments ready and prison space made.
What's that Nixon thing? Saturday Night Massacre? Yeah...nothing like that...
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Sure. That's why you are talking about guns and violence. This thread is about Trump's lies instead.
BTW. If a gun owner kills someone with his gun it's a two of three chance it is himself or a family member.
But of course. Michael Flynn and George Papadopoulos pleaded guilty to being witches.
Your Trumpian accusations just don't resonate anymore Zimmer.
Trump's lies betray his desperation
Time, and the evidence, will tell. It's unfortunate that if the disposition verdict is a thumbs-down, any successor will more than likely pardon Donald J. Trump.
And he knows this. Which is why he has decided to keep attacking and obstructing, forcing a constitutional crisis with the hope that the two other branches will back away from the brink.
But of course. Michael Flynn and George Papadopoulos pleaded guilty to being witches.
Your Trumpian accusations just don't resonate anymore Zimmer.
They pleaded guilty to perjury traps from an overzealous investigator desperate to keep his investigation relevant.
Nah, they pleaded guilty because our generation's foremost prosecutor offered them plea deals to shield themselves from getting prosecuted for far worse like Manafort.
No, not at all. Conspiracy to commit espionage would never be plead down to "lying to the FBI" it would simply never occur. The severity of those charges is so far apart that deal would never be made.
You're kidding yourself. We all know better.
You clearly think you know better...
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