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Trump's foreign policy faces growing dissent in Congress

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Trump's foreign policy faces growing dissent in Congress




Republican Senators also strenuously disagreed this past week with Trump over Trump's continuing attacks on his own intelligence community. Policy should never ignore or dictate intelligence data.

It is becoming obvious to many GOP Trump supporters in Congress that Trumps foreign policy is collectively incoherent, and oftentimes based on Trumps mercurial whims rather than on reality and fact.
 

Bah. Mostly mind reading and speculation.
 
The GOP Elites are likely getting a LOT of pressure from their big money donors. Those are the people/corporations most threatened by Trump's foreign policy and the actions he's taking to implement his policy.
 
I think an important point (for lack of better words) in Trump's presidency was crossed recently, during the shut-down. I'm not sure if it's an inflection point, but it's an important point none-the-less.

Trump took the GOP down a blind alley, and couldn't get them out. No matter what he did, he couldn't move the needle of public opinion, and could only watch it continuously and precipitously build against him no matter what he tried. The magic was gone. His charisma and heretofore successful PR techniques were ineffectual, resulting in his capitulation and a clear & overwhelming defeat. Trump's "stuff", the stuff that knocked-off 16 GOP presidential candidates and the entire previous incarnation of the Party, no longer worked.

That above, has to weigh heavily on McConnell and his caucus.
 
That above, has to weigh heavily on McConnell and his caucus.

I'm fairly sure it does. Remember also that McConnell and many other GOP US Senators are up for reelection in 2020.

By then Trumps coattails should be highly toxic to all but his core base.
 
I'm fairly sure it does. Remember also that McConnell and many other GOP US Senators are up for reelection in 2020.

By then Trumps coattails should be highly toxic to all but his core base.
Yep. The GOP have been in a jam since Trump threw his hat into the race, in 2016. And they still are. And it seems to be costing them. But they did get a Tax bill for their donors and two Supreme Court Justices out of the deal.

But now with Pelosi in control of the House, except for court appointments Trump is essentially impotent for GOP purposes. He's legislatively spent. The GOP will have to turn to Pelosi, in order to legislate
 

This is true however, I don't think you'll see any meaningful deviation in course until Trumps approval dips into the 20's. And I don't know if that will ever happen. I doubt it. Trump supporters love being lied to and made to look like fools. Trump does it to them everyday and they smile and ask for more.


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Oh look!! The DEMS are HAWKS now....
 
It's interesting that the former "anti war" left is not beating the drums for more exposure in the middle east, and pushing for a more aggressive stance against Russia, knowing full well that if Russia rolls into Ukrain, there is little we can do about it except thank Putin for not taking a NATO country, thus demonstrating how brittle the NATO sword really is.

It's time to return to the draft and democratize the military again. IMO, 25% of military manpower should be draftees into non front line combat positions. It's high time for America to get some skin in the game, and quit using US troops as mercenaries for the multi national companies. We are in the middle east for economic reasons, not military or political.
 
Fair point.

One thing I didn't touch on in my post, besides Trump's PR failing, was his failure in political judgment. Trump has made some astute political determinations over the past three years, enough to win a Presidential election and take-over a party that was never his. But here in the shutdown, he had abject failure in judgment.
 

I think he's going to pivot to abortion to use as a wedge.


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