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Trump's Failure to Lure Educated Voters

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First GOP candidate since Ike in term 1 not to poll well among the White educated, and way in the dumps with all educated voters.

In addition to citing the NBC/Wall Street Journal poll revealing Clinton’s 7-point lead among white college-educated voters nationwide, Lauter adds evidence from a Franklin & Marshall College poll from the swing state of Pennsylvania, where college educated voters favor Clinton by a 30-point margin. At the same time, whites whose education ended at high school back Trump by a double-digit margin.

...a Bloomberg poll revealed that Clinton is prevailing among white college-educated voters, 48 percent to 37 percent. That same demographic supported Mitt Romney by 14 percentage points just four years ago, according to Bloomberg’s John McCormick. And Clinton leads among all college-educated voters by 22 percentage points in that Bloomberg poll.

https://lagrangenews.com/opinion/15...-badly-losing-the-white-college-educated-vote
 
there's still a lot of election season to go, so i'm not ready to call it. Benito could still close the gap, and that's scary.
 
He really can't afford to give white demographics like that, particularly ones that went to Republicans previously.
 
First GOP candidate since Ike in term 1 not to poll well among the White educated, and way in the dumps with all educated voters.

Who is supporting the conman?
Only 1% of black voters support him.
Few Hispanic voters support him.
Only a minority of women support him.

Are there enough uneducated white males in the country to get Trump elected?
 
Who is supporting the conman?
Only 1% of black voters support him.
Few Hispanic voters support him.
Only a minority of women support him.

Are there enough uneducated white males in the country to get Trump elected?

Fortunately, no. The uneducated, angry white man is a minority in the US. Trump can not be elected without broadening his base. Trump has almost nothing going for him (policy, delivery, organization nor budget) to help him with that.

The fat lady ain't yet signing, but she is warming her vocal cords.
 
Fortunately, no. The uneducated, angry white man is a minority in the US. Trump can not be elected without broadening his base. Trump has almost nothing going for him (policy, delivery, organization nor budget) to help him with that.

The fat lady ain't yet signing, but she is warming her vocal cords.

Fortunately for the democrats they have locked up the angry, uneducated black mans vote; the angry, uneducated black womens vote; and the angry uneducated Hispanic vote. By my count the dems have far more dummies they can count on in November so that gives Hillary the edge.
 
Fortunately for the democrats they have locked up the angry, uneducated black mans vote; the angry, uneducated black womens vote; and the angry uneducated Hispanic vote. By my count the dems have far more dummies they can count on in November so that gives Hillary the edge.

They seem to have locked up the educated white vote as well. Do you think they're "angry" as well?
 
Fortunately for the democrats they have locked up the angry, uneducated black mans vote; the angry, uneducated black womens vote; and the angry uneducated Hispanic vote. By my count the dems have far more dummies they can count on in November so that gives Hillary the edge.

Perhaps true, but the icing on the cake for the dems, this time round, is that it has cornered the market on the educated vote, across all socio-economic and racial lines and also has the generally happy / content in life crowd.
 
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Fortunately for the democrats they have locked up the angry, uneducated black mans vote; the angry, uneducated black womens vote; and the angry uneducated Hispanic vote. By my count the dems have far more dummies they can count on in November so that gives Hillary the edge.
But you're missing the educated demos here, and it seems they're going strongly for the Dems.

So if Dems pull the educated amongst all groups, and as you said also uneducated Hispanic & African-American, what does that leave Trump?

That's Trump's problem.

He's shrinking the demos.

He's shrinking the electoral map.

He better have a kick-ass debate series and maybe a killer October surprise, 'cuz while it's still early it's starting to look like she may be putting him away.
 
Who is supporting the conman?
Only 1% of black voters support him.
Few Hispanic voters support him.
Only a minority of women support him.

Are there enough uneducated white males in the country to get Trump elected?

Sounds like Hillary has this election in the can, doesn't it?

If so, why does she, her media buddies and the GOP Elites seem to be worried? I mean, I haven't seen anybody make **** up about someone since they pilloried Palin.
 
Fortunately for the democrats they have locked up the angry, uneducated black mans vote; the angry, uneducated black womens vote; and the angry uneducated Hispanic vote. By my count the dems have far more dummies they can count on in November so that gives Hillary the edge.

The problem, though, is that those angry, uneducated people are also the ones who tend not to vote. I mean, if they don't care enough to get educated why would they care about an election?

On the other hand, those educated people aren't really all there in the smarts department. The videos of "educated" people who don't know **** about anything are all over youtube.
 
Perhaps true, but the icing on the cake for the dems, this time round, is that it has cornered the market on the educated vote, across all socio-economic and racial lines and also has the generally happy / content in life crowd.

I don't know about that. Any person who votes for either candidate has no real claim to being educated. The smart money is sitting this one out.
 
I don't know about that. Any person who votes for either candidate has no real claim to being educated. The smart money is sitting this one out.

The smart money on the GOP side are supporting the down ballot candidates....and Hillary.
 
First GOP candidate since Ike in term 1 not to poll well among the White educated, and way in the dumps with all educated voters.

Smart people usually can spot a con man.

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Sounds like Hillary has this election in the can, doesn't it?

If so, why does she, her media buddies and the GOP Elites seem to be worried? I mean, I haven't seen anybody make **** up about someone since they pilloried Palin.

Why make up anything about Trump? Aren't his statements enough to sink his campaign? All he has left is the uneducated male vote.
 
I don't know about that. Any person who votes for either candidate has no real claim to being educated. The smart money is sitting this one out.

Now, one could argue they are foolish or doing stupid thing, but whether they are educated is more a matter fact (objective) than one's opinion (subjective)... A single action would not make them educated or uneducated.

It would be ok to sit it out if you were indifferent to the outcome and it did not matter at all to you who actually won.

If, however, you find one candidate to be truly reprehensible, or, as in this election, you agree with 70% of the population that one candidate is so incompetent for the position that his very election is a danger to America, then, it would be downright unAmerican to not do everything (civilized) you could to stop him. So, sitting on the sidelines in such instance would be a dereliction of the duty of citizenship.
 
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Trump's failure, as in any other republican could've succeeded? They have been a proudly anti-intellectual party my entire life. I mean Bush II used to brag that he never read much; he was just "the decider" who instinctively knew which policy to adopt, or perhaps flip a coin. Anything better than *thinking* Not that most dems will be highly educated either, but they won't totally abhor the educated. But again, that is nothing new either
 
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Sounds like Hillary has this election in the can, doesn't it?

If so, why does she, her media buddies and the GOP Elites seem to be worried? I mean, I haven't seen anybody make **** up about someone since they pilloried Palin.

Similar to Palin, there isn't much made up. So woefully unqualified is the candidate that he (or she, in the case of Palin) merely opens their mouth and sells confirms their lack of preparation for position or personality disorder that renders them unfit to serve.
 
Why make up anything about Trump? Aren't his statements enough to sink his campaign? All he has left is the uneducated male vote.

And yet, Hillary and her minions DO keep making stuff up. :roll: Go figure...

Heck, even YOU believe the stuff they keep making up, as you've indicated right here. Seems you are their target audience, eh?
 
Similar to Palin, there isn't much made up. So woefully unqualified is the candidate that he (or she, in the case of Palin) merely opens their mouth and sells confirms their lack of preparation for position or personality disorder that renders them unfit to serve.

Oh...there was quite a bit either made up or made into more than it was in regard to Palin. It's like the tactic worked so well on her that they decided to up the ante and use it on Trump.

You can keep denying reality...keep denying that the left, including the media, are doing a hatchet job on Trump. You can deny the bogus/slanted polls. But a whole lot of Americans that you, Hillary and the rest of the left are ignoring might just rub your noses in reality.


But hey...you don't have to believe me. I mean, I'm just an unconnected independent thinker without any bias...except the fact that I don't want "Crooked Hillary" anywhere near the White House. LOL!!
 
Oh...there was quite a bit either made up or made into more than it was in regard to Palin. It's like the tactic worked so well on her that they decided to up the ante and use it on Trump.

You can keep denying reality...keep denying that the left, including the media, are doing a hatchet job on Trump. You can deny the bogus/slanted polls. But a whole lot of Americans that you, Hillary and the rest of the left are ignoring might just rub your noses in reality.


But hey...you don't have to believe me. I mean, I'm just an unconnected independent thinker without any bias...except the fact that I don't want "Crooked Hillary" anywhere near the White House. LOL!!

Really..... I think you have lost the grasp of reality.... we are blaming polls, we blaming media and all you have to do is hear Trump speak. He says things, that on good days are silly, but often just show incredible ignorance. The best time to look in the mirror is when you find yourself blaming everyone else.

Its early for the polls to have too much meaning. On the other hand, there isn't much to give a Trump supporter any hope that its going to change...

Trump is currently a 8 to 1 to underdog.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo

If that doesn't right to you, you are the one that should broadcast the SOS message to planet reality as it seems about right to just about everyone else.
 
Really..... I think you have lost the grasp of reality.... we are blaming polls, we blaming media and all you have to do is hear Trump speak. He says things, that on good days are silly, but often just show incredible ignorance. The best time to look in the mirror is when you find yourself blaming everyone else.

Its early for the polls to have too much meaning. On the other hand, there isn't much to give a Trump supporter any hope that its going to change...

Trump is currently a 8 to 1 to underdog.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo

If that doesn't right to you, you are the one that should broadcast the SOS message to planet reality as it seems about right to just about everyone else.

It's one thing to hear a person speak. It's a totally different thing when one spins, lies and hyperbolizes about what one hears.

In any case, yeah...I pretty much discount all polls and predictions because the people manipulating the polls...making the predictions...all do so in respect to their bias. And when it's the mainstream media conducting the polls and making the predictions the bias is undeniably pro-Hillary. Heck, even 538 was biased toward Hillary during the primary.

But hey...you don't have to keep trying to convince me. I've already made my choice and it isn't influenced by anything I read, see or hear from others. Unlike others...many who are right here in this forum...I think for myself.
 
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