Trump turbocharges inflation with tarriffs on US consumers

[ElChupacabra]

Stay angry. Its worked out so well for you libs lol.

It's worked great for the MAGAverse, it's "champion" has a perpetual angry mug. Don't try and deny The Libs™ the same pleasure.

 

[Fletch]

It's worked great for the MAGAverse, it's "champion" has a perpetual angry mug. Don't try and deny The Libs™ the same pleasure.

I want libs to stay the angry, spiteful, hateful sore losers that they are for the next 4 years and beyond.

 

[ElChupacabra]

I want libs to stay the angry, spiteful, hateful sore losers that they are for the next 4 years and beyond.

Your lack of self awareness is cute here. Remind me again of how loving and caring the MAGAverse has been towards its opponents, and how it handled defeat graciously.


The assumption you're making might backfire, and for the reasons that propelled MAGA to the frontlines. Grievance politics is powerful, and if you wish for your opposition to be fueled by the same kind of emotion, then it might not be such a good outcome.

 

[Fletch]

Your lack of self awareness is cute here. Remind me again of how loving and caring the MAGAverse has been towards its opponents, and how it handled defeat graciously

But arent you libs supposed to be better people? I guess not.

The assumption you're making might backfire, and for the reasons that propelled MAGA to the frontlines. Grievance politics is powerful, and if you wish for your opposition to be fueled by the same kind of emotion, then it might not be such a good outcome.

I dont wish for my opponents to be fueled by emotions such as hatred and rage, they just are.

 

[Yes_Minister]

But arent you libs supposed to be better people? I guess not.

I wonder if you expect people in Canada to "be the better people" when you are wrecking our economy for no reason.

I dont wish for my opponents to be fueled by emotions such as hatred and rage, they just are.

Elbows up, look it up.

 

[ElChupacabra]

But arent you libs supposed to be better people? I guess not.

Interesting admission, whether intended or not.

I dont wish for my opponents to be fueled by emotions such as hatred and rage, they just are.

Do you wish the same for those who share the same view as yours as well?

 

[What if...?]

Stay angry. Its worked out so well for you libs lol.

I’m chortling happily as MAGA realizes what they did to themselves.

I likely won’t live til the worst of the dystopia y’all are cheering the advent of.

I’m just mad I won’t get to laugh in your faces when you realize you were responsible for the death of the Experiment.

 

[What if...?]

Whats funny is how short of a memory you have. Not long ago, the poor and the working middle class--the ones you now label as stupid--were the base of the democrat party. Keep chasing them off and we wont have to endure another Biden-stylke presidency.

It’s open to debate whether there will ever be another election.

That’s why I voted in person last time.

Might be the last opportunity.

Oligarchy loathes democracy.

 

[What if...?]

Its almost like he hasnt got a clue.

Yall need to find another clever acronym.

BDS to TDS would lead one to think it’s not derangement but a clever dismissal tool for criticism.

One that thinks, anyway.

 

[What if...?]

Whats funny is how short of a memory you have. Not long ago, the poor and the working middle class--the ones you now label as stupid--were the base of the democrat party. Keep chasing them off and we wont have to endure another Biden-stylke presidency.

MAGA is and has always been uneducated white folks and the rest of his base Catholics and other zealots. And the Billionaires of course. They don’t make up many votes but pay for billions in manipulative messaging. Getting people to vote against their best interests can get expensive.

 

[Eriech]

Fact Sheet: President Donald J. Trump Proceeds with Tariffs on Imports from Canada and Mexico

SAFEGUARDING THE NATION: President Donald J. Trump is proceeding with implementing tariffs on Canada and Mexico under the International Emergency Economic

www.whitehouse.gov

Its difficult to compute the level of stupidity involved in this. I did think that an adult had whispered in his ear.
How many weeks will he maintain this nonsense ? My forecast is 4.

If tariffs on foreign goods can turbocharge inflation doesn't that prove the point. Buy American.

Most here excused the Biden inflation reduction act inflation as a world wide phenomenon.

 

[panic buyer]

If tariffs on foreign goods can turbocharge inflation doesn't that prove the point. Buy American.

Most here excused the Biden inflation reduction act inflation as a world wide phenomenon.

You mean give people less choice ?

 

[Quag]

Yall need to find another clever acronym.

BDS to TDS would lead one to think it’s not derangement but a clever dismissal tool for criticism.

One that thinks, anyway.

It isnt clever

 

[Eriech]

A

You mean give people less choice ?

Like you have choice in England?

Here is what my ride would cost in your country using my new favorite search. Took grok about 2 seconds to answer my question.

"Determining the exact cost of a 2025 GMC 2500 HD Denali Duramax diesel in Great Britain involves several factors, including the base price in the United States, import costs, taxes, and currency conversion. Since GMC vehicles are not officially sold in the UK, the truck would need to be imported, which adds significant expenses. Below is a breakdown to estimate the cost:
1. Base Price in the US
The Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price (MSRP) for a 2025 GMC 2500 HD Denali with the Duramax diesel engine is approximately $74,200 in the US, based on available information for similar trims. However, additional options, packages, and destination charges could push the price closer to $80,000 or more, depending on the configuration.
2. Import Costs
Importing a vehicle to the UK incurs several additional costs:

• Shipping Costs: Transporting a vehicle from the US to the UK typically costs between $1,500 and $3,000, depending on the shipping method (e.g., roll-on/roll-off or container shipping).
• Import Duty: The UK imposes a 10% import duty on the cost, insurance, and freight (CIF) value of the vehicle. Assuming a CIF value of $80,000, the import duty would be approximately $8,000.
• Value Added Tax (VAT): The UK applies a 20% VAT on the total of the CIF value plus the import duty. For a CIF value of $80,000 plus $8,000 duty, the VAT would be approximately $17,600.
• Vehicle Modifications and Compliance: To meet UK road standards, the vehicle may require modifications (e.g., lighting, speedometer adjustments, emissions compliance). These costs can range from $2,000 to $5,000 or more, depending on the extent of the changes needed.
• Vehicle Registration and Testing: The UK requires an Individual Vehicle Approval (IVA) test to ensure compliance with local regulations, costing around $500 to $1,000. Additionally, vehicle registration fees (e.g., first registration with the DVLA) add approximately $100 to $200.

3. Currency Conversion
As of March 9, 2025, the exchange rate is approximately 1 USD = 0.79 GBP (based on typical rates; actual rates fluctuate). The total cost in USD, including the base price and import-related expenses, needs to be converted to GBP.
4. Estimated Total Cost Calculation
Here’s an example calculation based on the above factors, assuming a base price of $80,000 with additional import and compliance costs:

• Base Price (US): $80,000
• Shipping Costs: $2,500
• CIF Value (Base + Shipping): $82,500
• Import Duty (10% of CIF): $8,250
• VAT (20% of CIF + Duty): $18,150
• Modifications and Compliance: $3,500
• Registration and Testing: $1,000
• Total Cost in USD: $113,400
• Total Cost in GBP (at 1 USD = 0.79 GBP): $113,400 × 0.79 ≈ £89,586

5. Additional Considerations

• Market Demand and Resale Value: Large American trucks like the GMC 2500 HD are niche vehicles in the UK, where smaller, more fuel-efficient vehicles dominate due to high fuel costs and narrow roads. This could affect resale value and insurance costs.
• Fuel Costs: The Duramax diesel engine, while efficient for a heavy-duty truck, will face high diesel prices in the UK, which are typically higher than in the US.
• Insurance and Maintenance: Insurance for imported vehicles, especially large trucks, can be expensive in the UK due to their rarity and high repair costs. Maintenance may also be costlier due to limited availability of parts.

6. Final Estimated Cost
Based on the above, a 2025 GMC 2500 HD Denali Duramax diesel would likely cost around £90,000 to £100,000 in Great Britain, depending on the exact configuration, shipping method, and modifications required. This estimate includes the base price, shipping, taxes, duties, and compliance costs but could vary based on fluctuating exchange rates and additional unforeseen expenses.
7. Critical Considerations
It’s worth questioning whether importing such a vehicle makes financial sense given the high costs and practical challenges of using a large American truck in the UK. Alternatives, such as European-market diesel trucks or vans, might offer similar towing and hauling capabilities at a lower overall cost and with better suitability for UK roads and regulations. Additionally, potential buyers should verify compliance with UK emissions standards, as diesel vehicles face increasing scrutiny and restrictions in Europe."

 

[panic buyer]

A

Like you have choice in England?

Here is what my ride would cost in your country using my new favorite search. Took grok about 2 seconds to answer my question.

"Determining the exact cost of a 2025 GMC 2500 HD Denali Duramax diesel in Great Britain involves several factors, including the base price in the United States, import costs, taxes, and currency conversion. Since GMC vehicles are not officially sold in the UK, the truck would need to be imported, which adds significant expenses. Below is a breakdown to estimate the cost:
1. Base Price in the US
The Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price (MSRP) for a 2025 GMC 2500 HD Denali with the Duramax diesel engine is approximately $74,200 in the US, based on available information for similar trims. However, additional options, packages, and destination charges could push the price closer to $80,000 or more, depending on the configuration.
2. Import Costs
Importing a vehicle to the UK incurs several additional costs:

• Shipping Costs: Transporting a vehicle from the US to the UK typically costs between $1,500 and $3,000, depending on the shipping method (e.g., roll-on/roll-off or container shipping).
• Import Duty: The UK imposes a 10% import duty on the cost, insurance, and freight (CIF) value of the vehicle. Assuming a CIF value of $80,000, the import duty would be approximately $8,000.
• Value Added Tax (VAT): The UK applies a 20% VAT on the total of the CIF value plus the import duty. For a CIF value of $80,000 plus $8,000 duty, the VAT would be approximately $17,600.
• Vehicle Modifications and Compliance: To meet UK road standards, the vehicle may require modifications (e.g., lighting, speedometer adjustments, emissions compliance). These costs can range from $2,000 to $5,000 or more, depending on the extent of the changes needed.
• Vehicle Registration and Testing: The UK requires an Individual Vehicle Approval (IVA) test to ensure compliance with local regulations, costing around $500 to $1,000. Additionally, vehicle registration fees (e.g., first registration with the DVLA) add approximately $100 to $200.

3. Currency Conversion
As of March 9, 2025, the exchange rate is approximately 1 USD = 0.79 GBP (based on typical rates; actual rates fluctuate). The total cost in USD, including the base price and import-related expenses, needs to be converted to GBP.
4. Estimated Total Cost Calculation
Here’s an example calculation based on the above factors, assuming a base price of $80,000 with additional import and compliance costs:

• Base Price (US): $80,000
• Shipping Costs: $2,500
• CIF Value (Base + Shipping): $82,500
• Import Duty (10% of CIF): $8,250
• VAT (20% of CIF + Duty): $18,150
• Modifications and Compliance: $3,500
• Registration and Testing: $1,000
• Total Cost in USD: $113,400
• Total Cost in GBP (at 1 USD = 0.79 GBP): $113,400 × 0.79 ≈ £89,586

5. Additional Considerations

• Market Demand and Resale Value: Large American trucks like the GMC 2500 HD are niche vehicles in the UK, where smaller, more fuel-efficient vehicles dominate due to high fuel costs and narrow roads. This could affect resale value and insurance costs.
• Fuel Costs: The Duramax diesel engine, while efficient for a heavy-duty truck, will face high diesel prices in the UK, which are typically higher than in the US.
• Insurance and Maintenance: Insurance for imported vehicles, especially large trucks, can be expensive in the UK due to their rarity and high repair costs. Maintenance may also be costlier due to limited availability of parts.

6. Final Estimated Cost
Based on the above, a 2025 GMC 2500 HD Denali Duramax diesel would likely cost around £90,000 to £100,000 in Great Britain, depending on the exact configuration, shipping method, and modifications required. This estimate includes the base price, shipping, taxes, duties, and compliance costs but could vary based on fluctuating exchange rates and additional unforeseen expenses.
7. Critical Considerations
It’s worth questioning whether importing such a vehicle makes financial sense given the high costs and practical challenges of using a large American truck in the UK. Alternatives, such as European-market diesel trucks or vans, might offer similar towing and hauling capabilities at a lower overall cost and with better suitability for UK roads and regulations. Additionally, potential buyers should verify compliance with UK emissions standards, as diesel vehicles face increasing scrutiny and restrictions in Europe."

It wouldnt cost me anything as I would not want or need such a thing.

 

[Eriech]

It wouldnt cost me anything as I would not want or need such a thing.

A vehicle? Pick any GM that you can't buy. Lot of Range Rovers and a few Jaguars on the roads around me. Maybe there will be US production to avoid tariffs or maybe, you will be able to buy GM if you want to when British tariffs are eliminated on US and likewise on Britain.....reciprocal.

 

[panic buyer]

A vehicle? Pick any GM that you can't buy. Lot of Range Rovers and a few Jaguars on the roads around me. Maybe there will be US production to avoid tariffs or maybe, you will be able to buy GM if you want to when British tariffs are eliminated on US and likewise on Britain.....reciprocal.

You are equally insane and ignorant. Half the cars on UK roads are GM cars. There is a huge plant a few miles up the road.
You do know that the big brands make different cars for different markets dont you ? Thats how the motor industry works.
Cheverolet, Ford and even Tesla are widely available as well.

 

[Eriech]

You are equally insane and ignorant. Half the cars on UK roads are GM cars. There is a huge plant a few miles up the road.
You do know that the big brands make different cars for different markets dont you ? Thats how the motor industry works.
Cheverolet, Ford and even Tesla are widely available as well.

Cars made in the USA?

 

[Fearandloathing]

Fact Sheet: President Donald J. Trump Proceeds with Tariffs on Imports from Canada and Mexico

SAFEGUARDING THE NATION: President Donald J. Trump is proceeding with implementing tariffs on Canada and Mexico under the International Emergency Economic

www.whitehouse.gov

Its difficult to compute the level of stupidity involved in this. I did think that an adult had whispered in his ear.
How many weeks will he maintain this nonsense ? My forecast is 4.

No.


It's completely understandable if you include three simple but relevant facts.

Trump is stupid and does not know what a tariff is. He STILL believes the tariff is paid by the targeted country, not his own tax payers. That fundamental flaw is what drives him...he sees money being left on the table and for a greed head like him that's a cause for long term insomnia.

Two - Trump believes he and America are impervious to retribution. His American arrogance tells him he is the most powerful person in the world and he can do whatever the hell he likes. He has snapped that he will crush Canada with 1000 per cent tariffs.

Three - he has no intention of leaving when this term is done. He has said he will remain in office, that '47' is the last presidential number and he's building a case for a general armed push-back against his opponents. That 'third term' he keeps hinting at is not elected.

I said when he won this time he would be the last elected president in America's history.

 

[panic buyer]

Cars made in the USA?

Doubtful. Most cars are assembled in many different countries. The profits go back to the US though.

I rather think your beef is with GM not the UK.
They have opened factories over here building cars that in their judgement will sell in this market.


The nerve of those people. They should first consider the needs of globalists like yourself who do not reccognse local differences.

 

[Eriech]

Doubtful. Most cars are assembled in many different countries. The profits go back to the US though.

I rather think your beef is with GM not the UK.
They have opened factories over here building cars that in their judgement will sell in this market.


The nerve of those people. They should first consider the needs of globalists like yourself who do not reccognse local differences.

The op regards tariffs. Americans could buy British ( made in GB ) vehicles in the US. You cannot buy American made. Tariffs could change that without a substantial cost penalty (tariff). If both countries retain tariffs, Range Rover, for instance, will have to manufacture in the US in order to sell here.

 

[panic buyer]

The op regards tariffs. Americans could buy British ( made in GB ) vehicles in the US. You cannot buy American made. Tariffs could change that without a substantial cost penalty (tariff). If both countries retain tariffs, Range Rover, for instance, will have to manufacture in the US in order to sell here.

Your diesel will still cost more and you will still pay vat. They are not tariffs. Everybody has to pay them.

You will also have to pay for the adjustments to make them compliant with our laws. All manufacturers have to do that.

If GM thought they could sell these cars they would try it. But they dont so they dont bother.

Range Rover is actually an Indian company so i dont give a ****. Nobody who has owned one would buy another anyway.

I dont think you understand tariffs. VAT is not a tariff. Its a tax.

 

[Fletch]

MAGA is and has always been uneducated white folks and the rest of his base Catholics and other zealots. And the Billionaires of course. They don’t make up many votes but pay for billions in manipulative messaging. Getting people to vote against their best interests can get expensive.

Lol. Trump gained support in all regions and among all ethnic groups. But you keep pretending that you are smart enough to know what other peoples interests are.

 

[NJBob]

Lol. Trump gained support in all regions and among all ethnic groups. But you keep pretending that you are smart enough to know what other peoples interests are.

I can take a damn good guess at what other people’s interests aren’t.

Providing people with poor and inadequate healthcare isn’t in their interests.

Providing people with reductions and instability in Social Security isn’t in their interests.

Providing people with a manipulated media for propaganda posing as news isn’t in their interests.

Providing people with education steeped in fake religious indoctrination isn’t in their interests.

Providing people with loss of access to government services isn’t in their interests.

Providing people with increased inflation isn’t in their interests.

Providing people with loss of jobs isn’t in their interests.

Providing people with lies meant to divide and distract as the extremely wealthy rob our country blind isn’t in their interests.

Need more?

 

[Fletch]

I can take a damn good guess at what other people’s interests aren’t.

Providing people with poor and inadequate healthcare isn’t in their interests.

Providing people with reductions and instability in Social Security isn’t in their interests.

Providing people with a manipulated media for propaganda posing as news isn’t in their interests.

Providing people with education steeped in fake religious indoctrination isn’t in their interests.

Providing people with loss of access to government services isn’t in their interests.

Providing people with increased inflation isn’t in their interests.

Providing people with loss of jobs isn’t in their interests.

Providing people with lies meant to divide and distract as the extremely wealthy rob our country blind isn’t in their interests.

Need more?

No. You speak for your own interests and thats it.