Trump Transition Team Wants To End Crash Report Requirement Opposed By Tesla, Report Says

[Trump]

This is gonna be fun…..soooo much WHINE!

 

[Lord of Planar]

And turn self driving cars (with no occupants) out on the streets without knowing how often they crash. Sounds good!

That isn't happening in the USA yet, is it?

 

[TangoNoCash]

I’m waiting for people to start suing Tesla for additional damage inflicted by cybertrucks because they don’t crumple like most cars and weren’t crash tested.

 

[Lord of Planar]

I’m waiting for people to start suing Tesla for additional damage inflicted by cybertrucks because they don’t crumple like most cars and weren’t crash tested.

How is that possible under the Biden administration?
Did Tesla pay Biden off?

 

[TangoNoCash]

That isn't happening in the USA yet, is it?

Waymo here does it in AZ.

 

[TangoNoCash]

How is that possible under the Biden administration?
Did Tesla pay Biden off?

No idea how or when that happened. I personally thought crash testing was mandatory for production vehicles. I remember Ferrari complaining about it way back when.

 

[Pyrite]

Yes. What does it mean?

It doesn't matter, as liberal whine about anything and everything.

No, it's not. Self-driving cars have crashed into other vehicles and have harmed people.

U.S. opens new investigation into Tesla's 'Full Self-Driving' system after fatal crash

Tesla has twice recalled “Full Self-Driving” under pressure from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. The new investigation covers roughly 2.4 million Teslas from the 2016 through 2024 model years.

www.pbs.org

The U.S. government’s road safety agency is investigating Tesla’s “Full Self-Driving” system after getting reports of crashes in low-visibility conditions, including one that killed a pedestrian.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration says in documents that it opened the probe on Thursday after the company reported four crashes when Teslas encountered sun glare, fog and airborne dust.

In addition to the pedestrian’s death, another crash involved an injury, the agency said....

 

[Pyrite]

Waymo here does it in AZ.

Are Waymo vehicles engineered a bit better than Teslas?

 

[Pyrite]

No, it's not. Self-driving cars have crashed into other vehicles and have harmed people.

U.S. opens new investigation into Tesla's 'Full Self-Driving' system after fatal crash

Tesla has twice recalled “Full Self-Driving” under pressure from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. The new investigation covers roughly 2.4 million Teslas from the 2016 through 2024 model years.

www.pbs.org

The U.S. government’s road safety agency is investigating Tesla’s “Full Self-Driving” system after getting reports of crashes in low-visibility conditions, including one that killed a pedestrian.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration says in documents that it opened the probe on Thursday after the company reported four crashes when Teslas encountered sun glare, fog and airborne dust.

In addition to the pedestrian’s death, another crash involved an injury, the agency said....

...Critics have said that Tesla’s system, which uses only cameras to spot hazards, doesn’t have proper sensors to be fully self driving. Nearly all other companies working on autonomous vehicles use radar and laser sensors in addition to cameras to see better in the dark or poor visibility conditions.

The “Full Self-Driving” recalls arrived after a three-year investigation into Tesla’s less-sophisticated Autopilot system crashing into emergency and other vehicles parked on highways, many with warning lights flashing....

 

[TangoNoCash]

Are Waymo vehicles engineered a bit better than Teslas?

They’re Jaguars with sensors spinning and hanging off in every direction. It’s a sight to behold.

 

[Bodecea]

I don't see anything wrong with this. Musk would surely never try to hide how often self driving cars crash.

 

[TangoNoCash]

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[Questerr]

I’ll believe it when someone produces the document…….not until.

It’s called the wrap up smear….by Pelosi.

When someone does produce the document, you’ll simply pivot to how this is a good thing.

 

[Lord of Planar]

No, it's not. Self-driving cars have crashed into other vehicles and have harmed people.

U.S. opens new investigation into Tesla's 'Full Self-Driving' system after fatal crash

Tesla has twice recalled “Full Self-Driving” under pressure from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. The new investigation covers roughly 2.4 million Teslas from the 2016 through 2024 model years.

www.pbs.org

The U.S. government’s road safety agency is investigating Tesla’s “Full Self-Driving” system after getting reports of crashes in low-visibility conditions, including one that killed a pedestrian.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration says in documents that it opened the probe on Thursday after the company reported four crashes when Teslas encountered sun glare, fog and airborne dust.

In addition to the pedestrian’s death, another crash involved an injury, the agency said....

I know there were accidents. I also know the driver is never suppose to rely on the system to be free of errors.

 

[Pyrite]

I know there were accidents. I also know the driver is never suppose to rely on the system to be free of errors.

You're right. But I suspect the natural impulse to remove one's hovering hands - okay, maybe that initial advice, which was clearly incredibly stupid, has been updated - to allow the car to be on its own for "just a very short time" (or to do so without intending to do it), could and likely does come into play.

And that's where the Tesla fails, imo, to build enough safeguards into the system, to be better engineered, as are Waymos and other brands.

I'm not saying only Tesla self-driving cars should be monitored/have to report incidents etc. All of them should, at least for the near future, when the tech is so young.

 

[Trump]

When someone does produce the document, you’ll simply pivot to how this is a good thing.

Depends on what’s in the document.

 

[Ikari]

Ahh, he's not even in office yet, and still working hard on the Corporate Oligarchy.

lol

 

[Plasmaball]

I don't care either way.

The driver is still responsible for taking over if needed. Any accidents involving the system is still the drivers fault.

Lol...this is so ****ing backwards .

 

[Questerr]

Depends on what’s in the document.

If the document confirms exactly what Reuters has said, will you condemn Trump for supporting such a position?

 

[Sidd Finch]

This is gonna be fun…..soooo much WHINE!

Yep. Sanity be damned. You're "owning the libs". Sadly, it's all you've got.

 

[Trump]

Yep. Sanity be damned. You're "owning the libs". Sadly, it's all you've got.

Keep listening to Maddow…..she’s never wrong!

 

[Demon]

That isn't happening in the USA yet, is it?

Do you think it might? And there have been crashes from those cars, haven't there?

 

[Lord of Planar]

Do you think it might? And there have been crashes from those cars, haven't there?

Riddle me this.

What are the comparative accidents rates. How many accidents per mile of human controlled vs. computer controlled.

Until we gain more control over accidents that are carelessness rather than actual accidents, you have a non-issue.

 

[Demon]

Riddle me this.

What are the comparative accidents rates. How many accidents per mile of human controlled vs. computer controlled.

Until we gain more control over accidents that are carelessness rather than actual accidents, you have a non-issue.

I don't know the comparative rates, and if Musk has his way, which he very likely will, we won't know.

And it's not a non-issue until these things are proven safe.

 

[Sidd Finch]

Keep listening to Maddow…..she’s never wrong!

Is that a cable tv thing? No thanks