Trump to host G7 at his own Florida resort property

[Nalu]

He is not making a profit hosting the meeting at his resort.
Correct me if I’m wrong, I don’t believe Trump is taking a salary as president.

Can you tell me how staying in a Trump resort versus let’s say staying at a Hilton resort exposes him to foreign influence?

After his term is done, he can write a few books and go on the speaking tour making millions.
Did Bush write any books or is he giving speeches? When did all this profit after serving as president begin? With Clinton?

He owns the resort. When it makes money he makes money.

 

[Nalu]

No, I don't remember that. Are you saying that the federal government bought 1,000 of his books directly from Obama? Or, are you saying that libraries around America bought his books from distributors?

If you are trying to draw equivalence between anything any previous president did and the brash, unrelenting direct profiteering of Trump, you failed. There are no equivalent examples.

I wasn't aware of this either, but it is (was) problematic.

State Dept. spends $70K on Obama books - Washington Times

Of course, the better question is why people are bitching about Obama's books while simultaneously defending the Doral thing.

 

[Nalu]

Cool. We're not talking about people choosing to buy them, though. We're talking about Obama's State Dept. using tax dollars to buy up 1000's of copies and handing them out to people for free.

Since you refused to do it, I found an article related to what you're talking about myself. Your case would have been stronger if you had simply included a source.

 

[Nalu]

I googled that and can only see that being reported by the Washington Times, a right-wing website and then picked up by the Fox News from the Washington Times. If that really happened then Obama should return any revenues from book sales purchased by his state department to the US treasury - as trump shouldn't derive any revenues from the use of his properties for government business.

You make consistency seem so easy and normal. Would you mind adopting one Trump supporter each day and trying to teach them?

 

[Nalu]

Everyone. The delegates found it too cramped and too far from night life. The media had to stay completely off site and had an hour long commute.

Does Angela Merkel do a lot of clubbing?

 

[upsideguy]

If not Trump, then who? Are you going to tell me that Hillary isn't a terrible person?

Your second paragraph,
Glad to hear you agree with Jefferson then...

Are you telling us she is? Are telling us she would have brought to the White House the equivalent baggage and same inability to discern right and wrong as Trump? That a Clinton Administration would have been wrought with the same turmoil as we are witnessing now? Go ahead, build that case.

Show us, with credible cites, that she was unfit to be President. (Remember that every major newspaper in America, including conservative papers, told us Trump was unfit.) Here is what they had to say.....

We recommend Hillary Clinton for president
Enquirer: It has to be Hillary Clinton
USA TODAY's Editorial Board: Trump is 'unfit for the presidency'
Endorsement: Hillary Clinton is the only choice to move America ahead

So, if you are now trying to tell us the Hillary was as bad or worse, then back it up.

I am not asking you this to re-litigate the 2016 election, but I do need to challenge this inference you are making that somehow, as to character, that she was as bad or worse than Trump. I have made this challenge before and everyone backs down, as they know its lie. So, here is your chance. Can you cash the check your write here? I don't think so. Prove me wrong.



If you can't do it, then drop this line of reasoning that Trump is legitimate because he was of equal or greater moral character to the alternative. Own your standing with Trump as your personal decision; that you stand in defense of his character. Own him.

 

[Slavister]

I wasn't aware of this either, but it is (was) problematic.

State Dept. spends $70K on Obama books - Washington Times

Of course, the better question is why people are bitching about Obama's books while simultaneously defending the Doral thing.

What they are saying is this... Obama did this, so why can't Trump.

You see, when Obama was in office, apparently some embassies decided to buy his books. Some bought his books even before his was in office. But say most of those 70k worth of books were bought while he was in office. So Obama would have made $7k in royalties before tax, or about 4 grand after tax.

Nevermind that Obama and White House claimed no knowledge of this.

Nevermind that for comparison purposes, Obama donated around $250k to charity that same year, and not the kind of Trump charity where it would fleece the taxpayer with special non-profit status but then use it as his own personal checkbook, but actual true charities.

So you see, Obama was clearly corrupt and therefore why do you complain when Trump just does it on a massive scale?

The door was open by Obama and therefore Trump should be as corrupt as he wants to be.

 

[Outlook]

He owns the resort. When it makes money he makes money.

There is a difference between operating the resort for this event at cost versus for a profit.

 

[Nalu]

What they are saying is this... Obama did this, so why can't Trump.

You see, when Obama was in office, apparently some embassies decided to buy his books. Some bought his books even before his was in office. But say most of those 70k worth of books were bought while he was in office. So Obama would have made $7k in royalties before tax, or about 4 grand after tax.

Nevermind that Obama and White House claimed no knowledge of this.

Nevermind that for comparison purposes, Obama donated around $250k to charity that same year, and not the kind of Trump charity where it would fleece the taxpayer with special non-profit status but be used as his own personal checkbook, but actual true charities.

So you see, Obama was clearly corrupt and therefore why do you complain when Trump just does it on a massive scale?

The door was open by Obama and therefore Trump should be as corrupt as he wants to be.

That damned black guy is still ruining the country years after his presidency ended. I'm surprised no one's talking about Hillary Clinton's emails yet.

 

[Slavister]

There is a difference between operating the resort for this event at cost versus for a profit.

Nope. "At cost" is meaningless in Trump world. When he needs to make huuuge bigly security upgrades "at cost" to support the event, guess what, that's not "at cost". When he inflates the "costs", that's not "at cost".

In any case though, Trump promised he would never talk about business to people who run these businesses from which he refused to divest and who happen to be his offspring... So, how could he promise any kind of "at cost" if he is not supposed to even discuss this with them?

 

[Nalu]

There is a difference between operating the resort for this event at cost versus for a profit.

At cost my ass. Furthermore, the venue will enjoy residual income thanks to publicity.

 

[lurchadams]

You make consistency seem so easy and normal. Would you mind adopting one Trump supporter each day and trying to teach them?

LOL - If only it were possible.

 

[Nalu]

So an accusation is all there is?

Because there is nothing inherently wrong with holding the G7 there.

It's inherently illegal.

 

[Nalu]

Well, that and the fact that it would likely have proven to be an impeachable offence and his lawyers told him so.

It shouldn't have even gotten as far as it did. It's terrifying to think that he has so surrounded himself with worthless sycophants that no one even told him he was blatantly breaking the law before he awarded himself the contract on Twitter.

 

[Atomic Kid]

There is a difference between operating the resort for this event at cost versus for a profit.

Yeah, but who was it that was going to be determining what is the 'cost', and what is the 'profit', as well as what criteria would be used for making that determination?

 

[Atomic Kid]

I didn't vote for him because I didn't like his personal character, but when he won, I thought he would be better than Hillary because of my political leanings... I don't apologize for my politics to anyone.

You probably should really try to reconsider that position.

 

[Nalu]

Trump doesn't give a damn about Democrats or the media. What caused the reversal is those Republicans who hadn't quite sold ALL their soul to Trump were unwilling to defend this crap, because it's indefensible on the merits.

But it's good of you to repeat Trump's talking points!

Who is he thanking and for what? And why does he capitalize random words? Can't he just go away?

 

[Nalu]

Strange, I keep hearing the word corrupt... yet never see any examples or proof of the matter... funny that little case of happenstance.

Pst. This thread is about corruption.

 

[Nalu]

I think it's okay when the correct provisions are followed, not when it's illegal. But people continually bitching about something that isn't even going to happen now, just seems like a waste of breath to me.

Then click Unsubscribe.

 

[Nalu]

That's the biggest joke of the thread. You assume criminal intent.

Intent is irrelevant, but we all know that Trump's is bad.

 

[Nalu]

The reason this Doral G7 debacle has been called off has nothing to do with the Democrats. Trump has told the Dems to go F*** themselves more than once, and their predictable outrage did not faze him in the least.

The real reason for Trump changing his mind came from within his own party.

A lot of Republicans would like to be re-elected next year and they are seeing Trump's bulls*** self-dealing crap as just another unnecessary issue that they have to go back to their constituencies and defend. It's not helpful.

He's going to completely dismantle the party if Republicans don't start to take it back from him.

 

[Oborosen]

Yes, of course, any system where the head of a government is awarding himself government contracts and directing money into his own pocket is inherently corrupt. The principle has NOTHING to do with Trump other than he tried to do it.

It's a simple concept but if you're not able to grasp it I can't help you. Remedial tutoring in Ethics 101, Ethics for Dummies, might help.

See here is where you're missing a few points.
One being that he wanted to do the arrangement at cost, no profit, so that this would be made easier for them to just have the summit. The other being that in acknowledging everyone saying that they didn't want him to do this. He's proving himself to be just a populist. He was all for suggesting it until he realized that more than enough people didn't want it to be done, so he stopped.

There should be issue here with anyone. He made a suggestion and then dropped it when the people said no.

 

[Oborosen]

What assumption do you think I'm making? It's Trump's personal property, and he was trying to direct both government and foreign government funds to the property.



I don't care if you disagree with me.

I care if your actions help support the slow destruction of our Republic. I care if your actions are contrary to my moral and ethical principles. If you do something I consider bad, I will say so. I think you guys needed to be reminded that what you are doing is wrong. Corruption is not okay. Supporting someone who is corrupt is not okay. These are bad acts, and actions define people. And if you do bad things you too are a bad person. And you're not going to find me politely disagreeing with you on these subjects. What Trump is doing is EFFED UP, but that's expected, not everyone in every population is a good person, some people need to be taught the difference right and wrong...the HARD way. What's effed up is the behavior of Trump supporters who SHOULD know better. In their personal, family, and business lives they would not support this kind of behavior from ANYONE. That's how I know the support of Trump is basically a cult-like behavior at this point. So, stop doing bad things. Stop supporting and defending a corrupt person. This stuff is beyond the pale, and Trump AND his supporters need to be held to account. And since the only thing I can practically do is shame you for being bad a person, I'm going to shame you. So knock it off. Stop being a bad person. Stop doing bad things.

Actually he was going to do it at no profit, so there goes that angle for you.

I wish everyone read the full story on all this crap.

Also the last section of your post is nothing but hyperbolic bitching at this point.
Seeing as none of what you're saying actually has anything in reality to back it up.

Because simply put, Trump floated the idea and the people said so, so he dropped it. Period...

Where he really as corrupt as you say he is, he'd have just gone through with it, but no. He showed himself to just be a populist when it came to a decision that the public did like.

This rampant idiocy from the lot of you has to stop.

 

[Oborosen]

It's inherently illegal.

No, it's actually not.
Then again, no one's apparently read the whole idea for holding the summit. So I can see why you would think that.

 

[Oborosen]

Pst. This thread is about corruption.

I know, seeing as I can apparently ask for proof until I'm blue in the face and never get as such. It just seems a little strange.