Trump threatens election workers, etc.

[Nickyjo]

I said anyone.

But...I know where you are going. The difference between what you are talking about and what I'm talking about is that Trump isn't talking about lawfare.

Um, yes he is. Quite specifically. You gotta keep up.

 

[Lursa]

Yeah. I guess I never thought it through all the way to the point where a woman could, like someone else suggested, just sell the babies and put a few bucks in the bank. I mean, granted, putting an unwanted baby up for adoption is WAY better than abortion but I never really considered that a woman would do that just for money. Then again, I never really considered that woman thought of their babies as mere pieces of meat either.

Y'all got some sick puppies on your side of the issue!

That's not what you said. You said she did it because she was abandoned...no longer having the support of a partner.

Dont lie and change the narrative to further disrespect women when it's your own poor preparedness and lack of information...and dishonesty...that are the problem.

Such as where you claimed healthy women abort healthy 39 week old fetuses and provide no proof. That's a lie...why did you create a narrative so disrespectful of women?

 

[Gordy327]

Y'all got some sick puppies on your side of the issue!

Like those who think of women as little more than breeding mares and should be forced to gestate against their will? Depriving someone of their rights and autonomy without good reason certainly is sickening.

 

[Lutherf]

That's not what you said. You said she did it because she was abandoned...no longer having the support of a partner.

Dont lie and change the narrative to further disrespect women when it's your own poor preparedness and lack of information...and dishonesty...that are the problem.

Such as where you claimed healthy women abort healthy 39 week old fetuses and provide no proof. That's a lie...why did you create a narrative so disrespectful of women?

With all due respect, you were the one that suggested she should sell the baby.

 

[Lursa]

With all due respect, you were the one that suggested she should sell the baby.

"With all due respect," you lied about why she was giving it up the 2nd time and lied about women even having such late abortions.

And do you prefer she kill it rather than 'sell' it legally in a private adoption? Yes or no? Let's see if your objection is pure deflection and nonsense or not.

 

[Lutherf]

"With all due respect," you lied about why she was giving it up the 2nd time and lied about women even having such late abortions.

And do you prefer she kill it rather than 'sell' it legally in a private adoption? Yes or no? Let's see if your objection is pure deflection and nonsense or not.

What did I lie about? Are you suggesting that nobody will get an abortion because of financial pressure or because their baby daddy ran off and they don’t want the reminder?

You say that never happens but we have living examples of abortion survivors. It happened when Rie was in place and now that the left is seeking to take all gestational restrictions off the table it will happen even more.

 

[Lursa]

What did I lie about? Are you suggesting that nobody will get an abortion because of financial pressure or because their baby daddy ran off and they don’t want the reminder?

You claimed at 39 weeks, because she lost partner. So...let's see you provide examples of ANY 39 week abortions by healthy women of healthy fetuses.

Yes, I'm saying it doesnt happen...prove it does. Lots of data out there.

You say that never happens but we have living examples of abortion survivors. It happened when Rie was in place and now that the left is seeking to take all gestational restrictions off the table it will happen even more.

Were they 39 weeks? Even non-viable fetuses earlier than 20 weeks maybe survive outside the womb for a short time. Of course any "botched" medical procedure is sad, but they happen, for any procedure.

Did the fetus or the women have medical conditions that caused the need for abortion? Let's see your citations.

Proof, or you are lying, just making stuff up.

 

[Lutherf]

You claimed at 39 weeks, because she lost partner. So...let's see you provide examples of ANY 39 week abortions by healthy women of healthy fetuses.

Yes, I'm saying it doesnt happen...prove it does. Lots of data out there.



Were they 39 weeks? Even non-viable fetuses earlier than 20 weeks maybe survive outside the womb for a short time. Of course any "botched" medical procedure is sad, but they happen, for any procedure.

Did the fetus or the women have medical conditions that caused the need for abortion? Let's see your citations.

Proof, or you are lying, just making stuff up.

Well, while Roe was in place an abortion at 39 weeks was illegal so we didn't see it or didn't hear about it if it did happen. Today, with several states that now allow abortion up to the point that a live birth is complete let's see what happens. I mean, seriously, why pass laws that allow for something "that never happens" unless you want to make sure it's legal when it does happen?

 

[Lursa]

Well, while Roe was in place an abortion at 39 weeks was illegal so we didn't see it or didn't hear about it if it did happen.

Wrong. There are no restrictions in several states, 9 I think, and no such abortions occur. And women from other states could always have gone there if they chose to...just like now...legal.

So...show me the data.

Today, with several states that now allow abortion up to the point that a live birth is complete let's see what happens. I mean, seriously, why pass laws that allow for something "that never happens" unless you want to make sure it's legal when it does happen?

Oops, so wrong. All of Canada also has no such restrictions...and no such abortions. Again, you are very very uninformed...and dishonest if you claim you "know" of it happening. Or, prove it.

 

[Lutherf]

Wrong. There are no restrictions in several states, 9 I think, and no such abortions occur. And women from other states could always have gone there if they chose to...just like now...legal.

So...show me the data.



Oops, so wrong. All of Canada also has no such restrictions...and no such abortions. Again, you are very very uninformed...and dishonest if you claim you "know" of it happening. Or, prove it.

Look, I know I'll never convince you that decisions such as what I describe will be made. What I can tell you is that during the Gosnell trial there was testimony that performed an abortion on a 30 week fetus and joked about it. Those women didn't go to Gosnell because they were having medical complications. They went to him because he was providing a service that they wanted. There is evidence that what I'm telling you DOES happen, HAS happened and WILL happen. Deny it all you like. Reality belongs to you and you alone ass long as you choose that path but there are realities out there that belong to others and their realities are every bit ass valid as yours are,

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...l-convicted-first-degree-murder-flna1C9905414

One employee testified that after Gosnell snipped the neck of a fetus delivered at 30 weeks, he joked it was big enough to "walk to the bus stop."

 

[Lursa]

Look, I know I'll never convince you that decisions such as what I describe will be made.

You are making it up.

What I can tell you is that during the Gosnell trial there was testimony that performed an abortion on a 30 week fetus and joked about it. Those women didn't go to Gosnell because they were having medical complications. They went to him because he was providing a service that they wanted.

So, not a 39 week old fetus? Didnt think so. And you dont know why those women went to him, if they or the unborn had medical issues. He was a criminal, period, already outside the law. Poor, desperate women dont always have access to better health care.

There is evidence that what I'm telling you DOES happen, HAS happened and WILL happen. Deny it all you like. Reality belongs to you and you alone ass long as you choose that path but there are realities out there that belong to others and their realities are every bit ass valid as yours are,

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...l-convicted-first-degree-murder-flna1C9905414

I am denying it. Aborting a late term fetus like that is more painful and dangerous than labor because the woman's body hasnt prepared for it. But it amounts to delivery.

--it's also 10x more expensive ($600 vs $6000)
--why would they do that instead of delivering and getting the $$ for the private adoption?

You are making it up. That you believe women are doing this...and with NO proof...shows what disrespect you have for women. Your view is disgusting, just assuming women are doing this.

 

[Radical Red Radish]

Let's just keep it real here and say that cosmetic abortion should be illegal, but fathers have no right to neglect their children, either. If you don't want children, use a condom. If you have children you don't take care of, the government needs to find a wage earning job for you to work at and deduct your child support from your paychecks. If you refuse that job even though you could do it, you join the Army and stay at an enlisted rank to pay to provide for your own flesh and blood child.

 

[Fearandloathing]

MOSINEE, Wis. — Former President Donald Trump, who makes frequent false claims that the 2020 presidential election was stolen through rampant fraud, warned Saturday that he would try to imprison anyone who engages in "unscrupulous behavior" during this year's race. <snip>

“The 2024 Election, where Votes have just started being cast, will be under the closest professional scrutiny and, WHEN I WIN, those people that CHEATED will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the Law, which will include long term prison sentences so that this Depravity of Justice does not happen again," he wrote.

He continued, “Please beware that this legal exposure extends to Lawyers, Political Operatives, Donors, Illegal Voters, & Corrupt Election Officials. Those involved in unscrupulous behavior will be sought out, caught, and prosecuted at levels, unfortunately, never seen before in our Country.”

If this guy wins the election, God help America.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-threatens-lawyers-donors-election-032056229.html

He must continue the ruse of the stolen election for his own self esteem. He simply cannot allow himself to accept that he just might have lost.

Remember, Donald Trump is insane!

 

[Sidd Finch]

Let's just keep it real here and say that cosmetic abortion should be illegal, but fathers have no right to neglect their children, either. If you don't want children, use a condom. If you have children you don't take care of, the government needs to find a wage earning job for you to work at and deduct your child support from your paychecks. If you refuse that job even though you could do it, you join the Army and stay at an enlisted rank to pay to provide for your own flesh and blood child.

It's much easier to just mind your own business.

 

[Fearandloathing]

Let's just keep it real here and say that cosmetic abortion should be illegal, but fathers have no right to neglect their children, either. If you don't want children, use a condom. If you have children you don't take care of, the government needs to find a wage earning job for you to work at and deduct your child support from your paychecks. If you refuse that job even though you could do it, you join the Army and stay at an enlisted rank to pay to provide for your own flesh and blood child.

Great post!


The only problem is I've been hearing that shit for 75 years!

It didn't work in 1955 and it doesn't work now.

Righties cling to old, worn out ideas that have been proven failures and some that have aggravated the problem, but you STILL flog the lie.

The truth is, "birth control" which the religious right STILL fights doesn't work. Too few are going to break off and go buy a condom! Pills are too hard to get in Amerika

The truth is the US NEEDS abortion or your social programs, weak and anemic as they are, could collapse.

Then we'd have you posting about how "those people" destroyed the country" all because YOU imposed an unwanted solution on complete strangers.

The best line of the Bible is the least ever heard "Mind our own business".

 

[Radical Red Radish]

It's much easier to just mind your own business.

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. - Dietrich Bonhoeffer

 

[Sidd Finch]

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. - Dietrich Bonhoeffer

What is this evil you're talking about? Trump threatening election workers?

 

[Radical Red Radish]

What is this evil you're talking about? Trump threatening election workers?

In part, yes. Also, America needs practical solutions for situations where abortion would be too drastic. People need to accept responsibility for our actions and work together to solve our problems. Mass cosmetic abortion failed in the Soviet Union because it was too expensive and the population was too small to support research and development of other methods of birth control. That was in part because Stalin's Duma installed too many statues and too few railroad tracks. That's the real reason we're not trolling each other in Russian right now.

The point is that just legalizing abortion again will not solve the bigger problems, like financial insecurity and trust issues between couples. The Feds have started anti-straight policies to control the population anyway. Abortion would be a step on a downward spiral of severe underpopulation. How can 300 million people compete with 1.7 billion in just one other country? It's unrealistic.

 

[ElChupacabra]

Trump threatens election workers, etc.​

As he should.

Anyone...especially election workers...who try to cheat SHOULD be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

If election workers and others don't try to cheat, they have nothing to worry about.

No, he actually shouldn't as Giuliani recently found out. I mean, here's a guy who's never been able to prove his rubbish theories pushing the same nonsense yet again.

 

[Nickyjo]

Trump threatens election workers, etc.​

As he should.

Anyone...especially election workers...who try to cheat SHOULD be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

If election workers and others don't try to cheat, they have nothing to worry about.

Should Trump be prosecuted for attempting to cheat on elections?

 

[Mycroft]

Should Trump be prosecuted for attempting to cheat on elections?

He didn't. He was the victim of the cheat.

 

[Nickyjo]

He didn't. He was the victim of the cheat.

Both in 2016 and 2020? Prove it.

And the Emmys too?

Look, vote for Trump cause you like his policies. But stop pretending to believe him when he says elections are fixed. That’s his thing, either his way of coping with loss due to his damaged ego that has him hate the word “loser.” (Call him a rapist, he shrugs it off —“she’s not my type” — but a loser never.) Or it’s just a strategy to keep his followers close and more importantly, to raise money off of them.

Do yourself a favor, search under “how many times has Trump claimed an election was rigged.” One of the results, Forbes, had what seems to be a good list.

 

[Mycroft]

Both in 2016 and 2020? Prove it.

And the Emmys too?

???

Never mind. You are obviously not serious.

Bye.

 

[upsideguy]

Trump threatens election workers, etc.​

As he should.

Anyone...especially election workers...who try to cheat SHOULD be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

Glad we agree. Yep, post election, Trump will be facing criminal charges for his attempted cheating in Georgia and federally. I suspect that after the election, Arizona will also enjoin Trump in their criminal charges of election tampering. He will have plenty of time to mount a defense, but less likely to have it paid for by others..... although he could sell more trading cards, sneakers, watches, whatever junk, to his adoring cult.

If election workers and others don't try to cheat, they have nothing to worry about.

Or, they can merely sue and collect $148M (and lots of death threats in the interim).....

Once again, Trump being Trump: a low life that concerns himself with nobody other than himself.

 

[Nickyjo]

???

Never mind. You are obviously not serious.

Bye.

Neither is Trump. Get back when he offers proof of how his two presidential elections were rigged, to say nothing of proof about 2012 and other votes. And are you telling me you are serious in believing Trump time after time? Do you expect him to accept next week’s election results? Remember that he doesn’t accept results even when he wins, as in 2016. Vote for Trump for his policies, but don’t pretend to believe his lies if you want to be taken seriously.