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Trump supporters, is it ok to use force against people protesting against trump's actions during his military parade?

bongsaway said:
Haven't been keeping up with what the gestapo are doing out there so I can't say. I think the protesters should be able to act like the protesters on 1/6 who were stopping the steal. Sound good to you?
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The protesters on J6 were all rounded up and arrested. Even people who engaged in no violence whatsoever were arrested and charged. Is that what you are calling for here?
 
Fletch said:
The protesters on J6 were all rounded up and arrested. Even people who engaged in no violence whatsoever were arrested and charged. Is that what you are calling for here?
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People are being arrested in the current LA riots as well, the difference is those charged and convicted won't be getting a pardon.
 
bongsaway said:
I would suggest they be careful what they wish for, they might get it in an unexpected way. I guess this is the civil war they've spoken about for years?
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And this time the good guys are the Government. Lets hear it for the Union!
 
Fearandloathing said:
Except it IS working.


His approval rating is climbing!!!!!
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Everytime I read an anti Trump post that claims his nasty actions are hurting him i know I am not talking to a rational actor.

You are correct, the more anti democracy he is, the more his cult loves him.
No one is better than putting on a show than is 2 Doll. This ridiculous action in CA is a big political win for him. Why the hell do they think he does it for?
 
ColdHardTruth said:
Irrelevant.

Jan 6 was an insurrection, not a riot.
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Not an insurrection, as the word is defined and understood.

Insurrection: “a situation in which a large group of people try to take political control of their own country with violence” Oxford.

Insurrection: “an act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government.” Webster.

Insurrection: “an organized attempt by a group of people to defeat their government and take control of their country, usually by violence.” Cambridge

The secession of Southern States was an insurrection. They exerted “political control” over a geographical area of the country by forming a distinct, separate, and independent governmental system from that of the federal government under the U.S. Constitution that had existed previously for the same geographical area. The Confederate Government of U.S. subsequently fired upon Fort Sumter.

The January 6 rioters, and their conduct does constitute as riot (“a situation in which a group of people behave in a violent way in a public place, often as a protest”), but not an insurrection as they didn’t act to revolt (revolt: “to renounce allegiance or subjection (as to a government) : REBEL” Webster), didn’t seek to “take control” (control, “to have power over a… country…so that you are able to decide what they must do or how it is run politically for themselves” Oxford) of the “country” or “defeat” the government and “control” the “country.”

The Jan 6 rioters sought to materially and substantially affect a specific session of Congress of counting electoral college ballots. This is an undoubtedly an egregious act meriting prison sentences not worthy of any pardon but not insurrection.

And as much as I dislike Trump, he summoned the guard and Marines for presently the limited use to protect federal buildings and federal law enforcement, in which their interaction with protesters thus far is limited to protesters appearing at those federal buildings/engaging federal officers.
 
Bodecea said:
Like the Third Reich was the good guys?
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Referring to a government and political movement renown for historic atrocities bearing no present comparison to the Trump Administration, you’ve preemptively sabotaged any sensible point you hoped to make.
 
NotreDame said:
Referring to a government and political movement renown for historic atrocities bearing no present comparison to the Trump Administration, you’ve preemptively sabotaged any sensible point you hoped to make.
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That poison won't be mixed with our blood anymore. Not in our country.

Take off the blinders.
 
Bullseye said:
No.
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Interesting way to show respect then, which is basically just lip service. Out of one side of Trump's mouth he says to respect police and on the other he pardons people who assaulted police. I guess just like MAGA math, MAGA morality is selective.
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Michael Cole said:
That poison won't be mixed with our blood anymore. Not in our country.

Take off the blinders.
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One must have as their natural eyes such “blinders” to have your view.

I prefer facts and the reasonable inferences from those facts.
 
NotreDame said:
Not an insurrection, as the word is defined and understood.

Insurrection: “a situation in which a large group of people try to take political control of their own country with violence” Oxford.
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Yes, the insurrectionists' aim was to prevent the count of the electoral votes in the interest of changing the results.

It was an insurrection.
 
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