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TRUMP SLAMS SMITHSONIAN FOR HARPING ON HOW ‘HOW BAD SLAVERY WAS’

When I first read that post (the one about being thanked for his ancestors fighting against slavery),back on the first page, I thought it was sarcasm.

Imagine my horror/surprise when I discovered he was actually being serious. This nation has a looooooonnnnng way to go still.
I seriously think we have gone over the edge into a dark age. Ive said it before, when you have half of the US voting for a racist fascist 3 times, with this world -wide turn against democracy, it is bigger than just the US. We now have the 3 biggest nuke powers with authoritarians at the lead. I just do not see this ending well.

We spent dearly to end fascism in Europe and its derivative in Japan, we as a society have forgotten those lessons, and now the weapons are much more lethal with greater collateral effects. I'm not optimistic.
 
Slavery in the U.S. ended in 1865 (except on the reservations -- they didn't give up their slaves until later). Approx. 4 million slaves were freed by the Emancipation Proclamation, 170 years ago. It's hard to calculate how many descendants they should have, because of the rate at which black people kill each other. That's not racist.
It is but its also adorable to watch you be meek and shy about it. 😂 Watching your culture have to play pretend in your country because you know admission would be shameful is exactly how I think your people deserve to live. Pretending and make believing. 😂
It's just fact (something like 90% of black folk who're murdered, are murdered by a black person, and their per-capita murder rate is much higher than anyone else's).

Millions more have immigrated in the intervening 170 years.
How many millions over those years? Have you compared that the birth rate of the 4 million who were here? Have you looked at immigration law to even see if Black people were allowed to immigrate here in any great numbers for that entire period of time? These are things serious people do when they are making a serious argument. 😂
Of the 48 million current legal black residents, a full 1/4 (12 million) came in the last 25 years. Millions more came between 1865 and 2000.
Based on what numbers? 🤷🏾‍♂️
Pretty sure black immigration to this terrible, "systemically racist," country has far outstripped the ability of the native-born folks to raise a child into adulthood without losing them to gang violence or an overdose.
Thats because you have racist ideas about what sort of lives a majority of black people actually live but want to pretend you're doing some scholarly work here. Love it. 😂
As always, if you can factually contradict anything I've said, I'll issue a public apology, never make that claim again, and incorporate my new knowledge into anything I say moving forward.

Let's hear it.
You said the majority of black people in America weren't descendants of slavery in America. You're wrong on that. It wasnt until immigration reform in the 1960s when Black people from other countries were even allowed to immigrate here and by the 1980s the share of black immigrants among the population was only 800,000. The majority of Black Americans today are descendants from American slavery. Thats one. https://www.pewresearch.org/race-an...lack-people-living-in-the-u-s-are-immigrants/


You also said you think this racist country has outstripped the ability to raise a child to adulthood as opposed to losing them to gang violence. In 2023 there were around 12,000 black homicide victims among a population of millions.

https://vpc.org/black-homicide-victimization-in-the-united-states-national/
Hmm...when the black mayors of the black cities with the highest crime rates vigorously oppose crime-fighting measures, yes, that's a matter of public policy.

And it's not me who's the victim. It's the black victims of publicly sanctioned black violence who pay the price.

I see you chose your name facetiously.:rolleyes:
The highest crime is in red states. If you compare the situation for whites of similar class living in red states verse blue states what you see is in that red states republican policies lead to more poverty, sickness and crime for white people of similar economic class compared to their white counterparts in blue states.

https://www.thirdway.org/memo/guns-poverty-and-social-welfare-how-republicans-fail-to-address-crime
 
You can't defend your claims of your family fighting against slavery while you constantly spew racist rhetoric and this latest new low of going nowhere about my appearance shows you got nothing.

You couldn't defend any of it from the start, it has all just been an opportunity to repeat long held racist views.

I have hatred of racists and racism, you feel it directly, personally.
Your appearance? I didn't know you actually had spittle on your chin, and were sensitive about it. Please accept my apology.
 
The inferiority argument continues. Homicide rates are correlated to the level of economic distress, not genetics. YOU are still making a genetics argument. I have seen this time and time again from racists for years on this forum.

Here again, you are trying to pin crime upon genetics, it is just pure racist rhetoric.

You have been making your racist rhetoric for all of your life, have more than likely been shut down before, this is not your first time to your racist rodeo. This is something you have repeated for a long time, nothing will change you.
No one said it was genetics. It's culture. Millions of black Americans manage to live peaceful, productive lives, while millions of poor whites and Hispanics experience "economic distress" (wonderfully Orwellian term for "poverty") without slaughtering each other wholesale.

It's not genetics, it's not poverty. It's a culture of violence which produces the majority of the violent crime in America.
 
Then you don't know shite about US History.
As I've said, the true history is that slavery was practiced by every culture and civilization since the dawn of humanity. White people finally ended it. We owe blacks nothing.
 
You know less about the economic conditions of those in poverty than you do about your families' supposed allegiance. Blacks still occupy lower levels of poverty at rates greater than Whites, but when those groups are compared at equal levels, crime stats are the same. It is not about genetics, it is about economics, another topic you are weak on.

No one is, this is the racist delusions of Donny being repeated by....you.

Again, racist rhetoric. It doesn't matter what you claim your ancestors did, the problem is you.
Have you looked at the murder rates in cities like Chicago, D.C., Baltimore, etc.? It ain't white people shooting those people up.
 
Slavery for slaves is/was bad.

Slaves also learned skills that they carried beyond slavery, when it ended.

The learning of those skills is a good thing, which, of course, doesn't negate the fact that slavery is/was bad.

The inability by most of you to see beyond the end of your noses never ceases to astound me.
Do you think:

a) slaves preferred being slaves since they learned skills they would not have learned in Africa? Or;

b) slaves would have preferred being free in Africa, not knowing skills obtainable in America?
 
There you go again, expecting gratitude from those you have for years expressed racist rhetoric against.

This is so weird, so delusional.
And here you are, expecting me to apologize to people I've done no wrong, while you spew racist rhetoric at me.

I feel oppressed.
 
As I've said, the true history is that slavery was practiced by every culture and civilization since the dawn of humanity. White people finally ended it. We owe blacks nothing.
Umm, some white & black people ended it by defeating the white-run states that seceded the nation in their failed attempt to preserve slavery by encoding it into their Constitution.
 
Do you think:

a) slaves preferred being slaves since they learned skills they would not have learned in Africa? Or;

b) slaves would have preferred being free in Africa, not knowing skills obtainable in America?
Considering that wasn't a choice available to them once they'd been kidnapped and offered for sale by their black brethren in Africa, what's your point? Once they'd lost their freedom, there were generally two paths forward: sale to the Arabs, or sale to European traders for transport to the Americas.

Sale to the Arabs meant, for the men, being castrated, then worked to death. The women and children were generally worked or ****ed to death. Either way, there weren't a lot of descendants.

Transport to the Americas meant being worked hard, but they weren't castrated, and they were allowed to have families, so...lot of nuance, there.
 
Umm, some white & black people ended it by defeating the white-run states that seceded the nation in their failed attempt to preserve slavery by encoding it into their Constitution.
While it's true that some black people fought on the side of the Union, the overwhelming majority of those who put their lives on the line to end slavery were white. It was more than, "some." It was millions, of whom hundreds of thousands died.
 
slavery hasn't ended. You just keep blurting idiotic nonsense
You're quite right. It's still openly practiced in the Arab and African worlds, and here in the U.S. millions of people of all races willingly subject themselves to the economic slavery of endless social programs.
 
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