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Trump skipping second GOP debate to give competing speech in Detroit

Lycanthrope said:
He knows the GOP nomination is already his. Why would he do anything to jeopardize that?
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If people drop out quickly before Super Tuesday I'm not so sure. If the primary quickly becomes a 1 vs 1 he should start worrying. Hopefully the GOP learned its lesson from 2016 that a dilluted field is how Trump wins
 
Integrityrespec said:
Are the democrats having debates between Biden and Kennedy and Williamson? NO they are not. Why? Joe is afraid.
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An incumbent president hasn’t debated in a primary for 50 years. Which presumably you know, so you’re just trolling. If not, then your ignorance should render you mute on this subject.

Here’s an article to help you get up to speed:

abcnews.go.com

No incumbent president has participated in a primary debate since Ford. Democrats want to keep it that way.

President Joe Biden has successfully resisted calls to engage in primary debates, but with new questions circling about his health, that could change.
abcnews.go.com abcnews.go.com
 
Old 'N Chill said:
I think he is scared, too cowardly and ignorant to debate.
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I think it has something to do with his lawyers, he's such a loose cannon, I can't imagine his legal team wanting him riled up and making their job harder.
 
Jessie C said:
I think it has something to do with his lawyers, he's such a loose cannon, I can't imagine his legal team wanting him riled up and making their job harder.
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Could be he's using that as an excuse, he's still an ignorant coward who knows damn well he's too stupid and demented to debate anyone.
 
He can't debate, so it's a smart move for him to skip it. But not sure how well this speech of his in Detroit will go over. Trump isn't known for fighting for workers.
 
Old 'N Chill said:
I think he is scared, too cowardly and ignorant to debate.
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That was my argument in 2016. If he was too butthurt and skipped that debate with Megyn Kelly, what makes us think he wouldn't do the same in an international situation. Same thing applies today.
 
MamboDervish said:
Trump has no debating skills whatsoever, and he knows it. Despite his bluster, he's an intimidated child in any debate because he can't even remember the lies he told just last week. Debates tend to be among the most heavily fact checked of any public speaking events by pollitical candidates, so he knows his answers would be eviscerated by any credible media within half-an-hour after the debate.

He thought he could physically intimidate Hillary Clinton by sneaking up behind her and looming over her in their debate. It didn't work. His first debate with Biden he wouldn't shut up, kept interrupting and yelling over him, and made the whole thing a circus. The press slammed him for his childishness, and he backed out of his second debate with Biden, because he knew he wouldn't be allowed to get away with such childish rudeness again. When he feels even the least bit challenged, he loses every bit of his already limited self control.

As a general rule, only people who actually know facts are good at debating, and Trump doesn't know shit. He'd be completely lost on stage, unless he was guaranteed that the answer to every question would be Person, Woman, Man, Camera, TV.
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While everything you say is true, most Republicans and some Independents read Trump's early debate performances differently...they didn't/don't care about facts, just the appearance of dominance and Trump's constant interrupting, talking over others, going over time limits, and well-timed insults made him win them over. Just like he operates in most interviews, like we saw last week. It was only the last debate, when Chris Wallace was more insistent on enforcing the rules, that Trump was somewhat neutered.
 
MamboDervish said:
Trump has no debating skills whatsoever, and he knows it. Despite his bluster, he's an intimidated child in any debate because he can't even remember the lies he told just last week. Debates tend to be among the most heavily fact checked of any public speaking events by pollitical candidates, so he knows his answers would be eviscerated by any credible media within half-an-hour after the debate.

He thought he could physically intimidate Hillary Clinton by sneaking up behind her and looming over her in their debate. It didn't work. His first debate with Biden he wouldn't shut up, kept interrupting and yelling over him, and made the whole thing a circus. The press slammed him for his childishness, and he backed out of his second debate with Biden, because he knew he wouldn't be allowed to get away with such childish rudeness again. When he feels even the least bit challenged, he loses every bit of his already limited self control.

As a general rule, only people who actually know facts are good at debating, and Trump doesn't know shit. He'd be completely lost on stage, unless he was guaranteed that the answer to every question would be Person, Woman, Man, Camera, TV.
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you have a good point about Trump not remembering the lies he told last week but his followers don't care if he lies or not they believe all his BS and will follow him any where
Have a nice day
 
Jessie C said:
I think it has something to do with his lawyers, he's such a loose cannon, I can't imagine his legal team wanting him riled up and making their job harder.
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Yes Trump could get up there and open his mouth and say something that will put him in jail and his lawyers are afraid of that happening,
but then again his followers don't care and would vote for him anyways even if he ended up being convicted of Treason.
they will follow him any where.
Have a nice day
 
Deuce said:
...the last debate had plenty of that
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Meh. The last debate was civilized in comparison to anything if Trump had participated. He'd be braying like a donkey & trying to see how much he can get everyone to start shouting too.
 
switt said:
Let's hope so, but the trump crowd is loyal, very very loyal. He is their anointed one
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Yes, but the only election they actually won was a statitical inside straight in the electoral college.

Donald Trump has NEVER won a popular vote election, ever.

He had pluralities in winner take all GOP states that awarded him far more delegates than the actual vote count suggested.

The same was true of the general.

And that was BEFORE A coup attempt and the criminal charges that arose from that and so many other things.

This hand wringing that is going on in cable tv news is just that. They need to keep Trump on the screen, because he draws eyeballs.
 
Fletch said:
Trump is not anti-union.
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News - Chicago Laborers District Council

www.liunachicago.org www.liunachicago.org
www.epi.org

The Trump administration’s attacks on workplace union voting rights forewarned of the broader threats to voting rights in the upcoming election

Introduction As we enter the final weeks of the presidential election, much attention will be focused on our nation’s electoral system and democracy. The COVID-19 pandemic has already caused disruptions in primary elections and the looming crisis with funding of the United States Postal Service...
www.epi.org www.epi.org
cwa-union.org

Trump's Anti-Worker Record

At every turn Donald Trump and his appointees have made increasing the power of corporations over working people their top priority. The list of the damage done to working people by the Trump Administration is long, and growing every day.
cwa-union.org cwa-union.org

You were saying?
 
MamboDervish said:
Trump has no debating skills whatsoever, and he knows it. Despite his bluster, he's an intimidated child in any debate because he can't even remember the lies he told just last week. Debates tend to be among the most heavily fact checked of any public speaking events by pollitical candidates, so he knows his answers would be eviscerated by any credible media within half-an-hour after the debate.

He thought he could physically intimidate Hillary Clinton by sneaking up behind her and looming over her in their debate. It didn't work. His first debate with Biden he wouldn't shut up, kept interrupting and yelling over him, and made the whole thing a circus. The press slammed him for his childishness, and he backed out of his second debate with Biden, because he knew he wouldn't be allowed to get away with such childish rudeness again. When he feels even the least bit challenged, he loses every bit of his already limited self control.

As a general rule, only people who actually know facts are good at debating, and Trump doesn't know shit. He'd be completely lost on stage, unless he was guaranteed that the answer to every question would be Person, Woman, Man, Camera, TV.
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Don't forget 'lumpy horse' (camel).
www.theguardian.com

I took a closer look at the cognitive test Trump claims to have aced

The test the president boasted about passing does not measure IQ but is typically used to check for early signs of dementia
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
 
snakestretcher said:
Yep, and even easier when all your opponent does is whine about how nasty the media are, and what an oppressed victim he is.
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The dude tried to cheat a presidential election, even inciting a violent mob to attack our Capitol.

What kind of American would still vote for such a person?

Not a good, patriotic American, that's for sure.
 
AmbiguousGuy said:
The dude tried to cheat a presidential election, even inciting a violent mob to attack our Capitol.

What kind of American would still vote for such a person?

Not a good, patriotic American, that's for sure.
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The "poorly educated" who cheered when he insulted them: that kind of naive and gullible person whom Trump claimed to "love". Insanity.
 
The same people praising Trump for skipping the GOP debates are saying Biden should be debating RFK. Sad!
 
ScrambledEggs said:
If people drop out quickly before Super Tuesday I'm not so sure. If the primary quickly becomes a 1 vs 1 he should start worrying. Hopefully the GOP learned its lesson from 2016 that a dilluted field is how Trump wins
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As we watch the GOP careen toward another government shutdown, and radical right wingers are publicly attacking their own party leader, there’s little evidence that the Republcian learned any lessons.

The tail is still wagging the dog.
 
Trump not appearing for this debate is considered a good political move on his part because he is so far ahead in the polls that he doesn't need it, and that may be true. But there is more to it than that. After all, it is highly unlikely that his appearance could hurt him.

What his appearance would do, however, is get clicks and eyeballs on a Republican sponsored event which is why they want him there. And any well-adjusted person would probably oblige them. The GOP is, after all, the vehicle that enabled him to rise to power. It seems only right that he should allow it to bask in the glory of his popularity.

Trump, of course, doesn't see it that way. He feels no kinship with the party beyond what it can do for him and is happy to disregard it whenever he feels like it. In fact, he is not only purposefully hurting them by not appearing, but insulting them by holding a competing event - and in Michigan, no less, the home state of the party's chairperson.

His spiteful selfishness on display here brings delight to his supporters, who are obviously sick and damaged people. but also serves as a reminder to the GOP of what it is in for if it ever decides that his corruption and crimes should disqualify him from the nomination.
 
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j brown's body said:
Trump not appearing for this debate is considered a good political move on his part because he is so far ahead in the polls that he doesn't need it, and that may be true. But there is more to it than that. After all, it is highly unlikely that his appearance could hurt him.

What his appearance would do, however, is get clicks and eyeballs on a Republican sponsored event which is why they want him there. And any well-adjusted person would probably oblige them. The GOP is, after all, the vehicle that enabled him to rise to power. It seems only right that he should allow it to bask in the glory of his popularity.

Trump, of course, doesn't see it that way. He feels no kinship with the party beyond what it can do for him and is happy to disregard it whenever he feels like it. In fact, he is not only purposefully hurting them by not appearing, but insulting them by holding a competing event - and in Michigan, no less, the home state of the party's chairperson.

His spiteful selfishness on display here brings delight to his supporters, who are obviously sick and damaged people. but also serves as a reminder to the GOP of what it is in for if it ever decides that his corruption and crimes should disqualify him from the nomination.
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I'm not in the man's head but it's reasonable to assume Trump thinks he doesn't owe the GOP anything. Indeed, much like with FOX he likely believes the party betrayed him.

Doesn't mean he won't continue to play footsie with both when he sees a benefit to himself.
 
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