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Trump sees disabling Iran nuclear site at Fordo as necessary

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“President Trump has been briefed on both the risks and the benefits of bombing Fordo, Iran's most secure nuclear site, and his mindset is that disabling it is necessary because of the risk of weapons being produced in a relatively short period of time, multiple sources told CBS News.

"He believes there's not much choice," one source said. "Finishing the job means destroying Fordo."

www.cbsnews.com

Trump sees disabling Iran nuclear site at Fordo as necessary, says he'll decide on strike within 2 weeks

President Trump has been briefed on both the risks and the benefits of bombing Fordo, Iran's most secure nuclear site.
www.cbsnews.com www.cbsnews.com

So there you have it. Trump has decided to strike Fordo. The only question remaining is when. What will be the consequences?
 
Necessary for who?
We had a nuclear deal in place with Iran and Trump tore it up.
Our own intelligence agencies say there is no indication that Iran has nuclear weapons.
So does Trump need a war to distract from his other disasters and so he can play soldier?
 
KingLeo said:
Necessary for who?
We had a nuclear deal in place with Iran and Trump tore it up.
Our own intelligence agencies say there is no indication that Iran has nuclear weapons.
So does Trump need a war to distract from his other disasters and so he can play soldier?
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I suspect Trumpco would like a civil war in the US
 
KingLeo said:
Necessary for who?
We had a nuclear deal in place with Iran and Trump tore it up.
Our own intelligence agencies say there is no indication that Iran has nuclear weapons.
So does Trump need a war to distract from his other disasters and so he can play soldier?
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Your timestamp for "no indication that Iran has no nuclear weapons." is when - - - last report that confirms that [actual reliable source/link, please] AND what source do you have for WHEN that regime WILL have a nuke?

It doesn't seem like a mean request to ask you for your source(s) for the information you post. Just want to be sure about your credibility here, that's all. That's not a bad thing, is it?

And I'll thank you in advance for asking for a little more of your time here in this thread. Thank you.
 
China & Russia aren't going to let a western democracy take hold in Iran. It's too geopolitically important to both of them, in the same way Ukraine is to Europe.

This war will be long. Iran isn't going to just say sorry and do whatever the west says. They were preemptively attacked.
 
Individual said:
Has Khamenei been eliminated?
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I reckon you are a well-read person and not at all stupid, so you obviously know that taking out the top boss there was given a thumbs down by you-know-who.

So what is the point of posting that question?

Maybe you are looking for some good reading material on that topic?
 
ScrambledEggs said:
China & Russia aren't going to let a western democracy take hold in Iran. It's too geopolitically important to both of them, in the same way Ukraine is to Europe.

This war will be long. Iran isn't going to just say sorry and do whatever the west says. They were preemptively attacked.
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I think you have gotten a few things mixed up.

Signals from the Russian Federation is they want to stay as far away from this one as is possible. Except that very interesting offer to mediate.

And I can assure you that the CCP is eyeing another area of the planet right now and hasn't got time to play too many games in that Mid-East AO.

I don't know from where you are gathering your information, but you need to revise some of your notes.

Much to the regret of a lot of folks, the top bosses in Iran have gotten themselves into a heck of a mess. They may yet be able to scoot though this one without too much further loss of assets, but that nuke option they want is not gonna happen. One way or the other, that option is finished. UNLESS they can hurriedly use what they already have and try one strike on Israel within about the next couple days. BUT that would mean nukes are in the game and not just from their end.

I sure hope some of you folks remember the hottest days of the Cold War and are giving instructions to your loved ones and friends about what to stockpile, because this whole nasty business could get very nasty very fast. AND in some places you weren't/aren't looking. We are basically on a worldwide alert for any idiot that thinks it's time to strike at the U.S. and/or our allies. And President Putin is NOT one who will do that. He is smarter than that. But Xi is a question mark. And Kim is my more immediate worry. We are in sensitive times for about a week. Or less.
 
Oh good! WMD, yellow cake...mission accomplished!

Rinse and Repeat!

Good thing Trump fired most of the capable military leadership from CENTCOM—otherwise, he might've heard something he didn't like and ended up completely confused!

Diving Mullah
 
medi said:
Signals from the Russian Federation is they want to stay as far away from this one as is possible. Except that very interesting offer to mediate.

And I can assure you that the CCP is eyeing another area of the planet right now and hasn't got time to play too many games in that Mid-East AO.
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"Things" can change rapidly. Both the US & Russia/China are watching what Israel / Iran do. As soon as one or the other becomes threatened in a way that a major world power loses influence, all bets are off (see: Ukraine & Taiwan)

A western friendly Iran gives access to the caspien sea & total control over the strait of hormuz & persian gulf, along with a southern front fir the west with respect to Russia. Make no mistake: Iran is and always has been a proxy of China & Russia, for good reason. The Middle East has been a proxy since WW1 & WW2.

No world powers are doing anything yet because there is no immediate threat.
 
medi said:
Your timestamp for "no indication that Iran has no nuclear weapons." is when - - - last report that confirms that [actual reliable source/link, please] AND what source do you have for WHEN that regime WILL have a nuke?

It doesn't seem like a mean request to ask you for your source(s) for the information you post. Just want to be sure about your credibility here, that's all. That's not a bad thing, is it?

And I'll thank you in advance for asking for a little more of your time here in this thread. Thank you.
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Trump’s credibility problem on Iran​

Trump’s own director of national intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, and plenty of other indicators.

Gabbard testified less than three months ago that her own intelligence community “continues to assess Iran is not building a nuclear weapon.” She also said that Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei had “not authorized a nuclear weapons program that he suspended in 2003.”

Trump and U.S. intelligence appear at odds over Iran's nuclear progress​

U.S. intelligence stands by its opinion that Iran has a large stockpile of enriched uranium but isn't close to creating a weapon. Trump said Wednesday that a weapon is “a few weeks” away.
www.nbcnews.com

Trump and U.S. intelligence appear at odds over Iran's nuclear progress

U.S. intelligence stands by its opinion that Iran has a large stockpile of enriched uranium but isn't close to creating a weapon. Trump said Wednesday that a weapon is “a few weeks” away.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com
 
Well, I admit that your CNN link is interesting, but let me share a few paragraphs of note:

But when pressed on what better information we have now, Mullin didn’t go into too much detail. He noted that he had to be careful, while largely pointing to what Israeli intelligence had told the US.

Signals from Democrats in Congress have been more mixed. Rep. Adam Smith of Washington state, the ranking member on the House Armed Services Committee, told NPR on Thursday that Iran “probably likely” does have at least something of a nuclear weapons program. But the top Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, Mark Warner of Virginia, told CNN’s Kasie Hunt on Wednesday that intelligence Gabbard cited hadn’t really changed.

He said that was the case as recently as Monday of this week.
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I will study your linked material further, but might I ask what you think is the reason for "heavy water" if a nuclear program is only for generating power for your people?

Better for me to offer a link from my end:

en.wikipedia.org

Nuclear facilities in Iran - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

You see, there sure do seem to be many facilities in that nation that don't have a lot to do with providing electricity for its citizens. Or do you think that Wikipedia page is complete garbage?

But please give me time to look over those pages you linked us to.
 
I agree with Trump that Fordo and other sites that produce nuke-weapon-materials must be eliminated for good in Iran.

The US has the capability and Iran can evacuate people beforehand.

Iran must not be allowed to get nukes, so they can destroy their archenemy, the "Zionist Entity" (= Israel), which the ayatollahs see as "cancer".

Israel must be fully protected from Iran and other Muslim encirclement (Hisbollah, Hamas, extremist Muslims in the West Bank) until "they get it" that Israel is here to stay for good !
 
KingLeo said:
Necessary for who?
We had a nuclear deal in place with Iran and Trump tore it up.
Our own intelligence agencies say there is no indication that Iran has nuclear weapons.
So does Trump need a war to distract from his other disasters and so he can play soldier?
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medi said:
Your timestamp for "no indication that Iran has no nuclear weapons." is when - - - last report that confirms that [actual reliable source/link, please] AND what source do you have for WHEN that regime WILL have a nuke?

It doesn't seem like a mean request to ask you for your source(s) for the information you post. Just want to be sure about your credibility here, that's all. That's not a bad thing, is it?

And I'll thank you in advance for asking for a little more of your time here in this thread. Thank you.
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June 19, 2025

U.S. intelligence agencies continue to believe that Iran has yet to decide whether to make a nuclear bomb even though it has developed a large stockpile of the enriched uranium necessary for it to do so, according to intelligence and other American officials.

That assessment has not changed since the intelligence agencies last addressed the question of Iran’s intentions in March, the officials said, even as Israel has attacked Iranian nuclear facilities.

Senior U.S. intelligence officials said that Iranian leaders were likely to shift toward producing a bomb if the American military attacked the Iranian uranium enrichment site Fordo or if Israel killed Iran’s supreme leader....
 
Iran should respond by closing the strait of Hormuz. Lay mines, sink oil tankers, cause as much economic havoc as possible.
 
Questerr said:
The warmongers are the people bombing Iran because they absurdly believe ayatollahs are suicide bombers.
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I have no idea why Netanyahu decided a week ago to initiate this war against Iran.

That the Israeli Ambassador to the US very recently added Iran's ballistic missiles/system to the "get rid of" list leads me to suspect that Bibi's talk that Iran will have the ability to produce a nuclear weapon in the next 15 days is a bunch of malarkey that hides his and his Government's real motives.
 
Pyrite said:
I have no idea why Netanyahu decided a week ago to initiate this war against Iran.

That the Israeli Ambassador to the US very recently added Iran's ballistic missiles/system to the "get rid of" list leads me to suspect that Bibi's talk that Iran will have the ability to produce a nuclear weapon in the next 15 days is a bunch of malarkey that hides his and his Government's real motives.
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Because the Israeli people were starting to wake up to the idea that Israel is committing war crimes in Gaza. They’ve had former prime ministers admitting it.

He needs to keep his wartime coalition together or else he’s going to prison for corruption.
 
Questerr said:
Because the Israeli people were starting to wake up to the idea that Israel is committing war crimes in Gaza. They’ve had former prime ministers admitting it.

He needs to keep his wartime coalition together or else he’s going to prison for corruption.
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Netanyahu loves wagging the dog.
 
KingLeo said:

Trump’s credibility problem on Iran​

Trump’s own director of national intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, and plenty of other indicators.

Gabbard testified less than three months ago that her own intelligence community “continues to assess Iran is not building a nuclear weapon.” She also said that Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei had “not authorized a nuclear weapons program that he suspended in 2003.”

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You'll excuse my delay, and also that I will remain focused on CNN for the time being.

I find the following from CNN sort of strange:

CNN
https://www.cnn.com › iaea-iran-enrichment-fordow-intl
Nov 22, 2022 — Iran has begun producing uranium enriched up to 60% in its underground Fordow nuclear facility, the International Atomic Energy Agency's (IAEA) Director ...
Iran is closer than ever to a nuclear weapon as Biden runs ...

CNN
https://www.cnn.com › 2022/06/12 › middleeast › iran-...
Jun 12, 2022 — Long-running tensions over Iran's nuclear capabilities may have reached a point of no return this week, thrusting the Middle East into uncharted waters.
Iran is seeking Russia's help to bolster its nuclear program ...

CNN
https://www.cnn.com › 2022/11/04 › politics › iran-rus...
Nov 4, 2022 — Iran is seeking Russia's help to bolster its nuclear program, US intelligence officials believe, as Tehran looks for a backup plan should a lasting nuclear ...
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You are probably asking why I find that strange, yes? Well, they seem to be contradicting their own earlier reporting.

I mean, look at that top find; "... closer than ever ..." BUT this year, a couple years later, they are writing that it is all hogwash. And that is just one of three here, BUT I'd bet two hogs to your one that I can find even more CNN reporting that Iran is a threat. - - - Wait, sorry - - - 'WAS' a threat. Now it ain't no worry. Ole' Trump is doing wrong because suddenly Iran is all cool and of no concern to anyone.

Just like those posts I see following my earlier one here in this thread - - - all you folks on about how horrible Israel is and how horrible Trump is, BUT Iran --- 'WHY, they be the coolest of the cool on this planet.' My goodness, I sure wonder what it is like to live in that sort of dream world? Of course, too, if Iran WERE to drop a nuke on your city and all got killed except you, then your dream would sort of be shattered, wouldn't it? Trouble is, this topic is NOT entertainment. Your dream world is that for which some folks get sort of ... - - - Well, I can't go down that lane, can I?

How about we discuss how many citizens of another community WERE killed by those super nice leaders of Iran? That community being Israel.
 
ScrambledEggs said:
He's not doing anything yet either
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Actually he is; he's talking and talking and talking, creating agitation, anger and fear. People feel like things are out of anybody's control and nobody acts rationally in that kind of atmosphere.
 
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