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Trump Second Term Agenda

Paradoxical said:
I gave my reply on this to another poster and those facts stand. But,to expand on them, hardy anyone is sending letters anymore (which is why mailboxes have been removed) and they were getting 55 cents a letter. People use the internet now All they are left with is the few bills that are still paid by snail mail and businesses that send junk mail and are losing their ass. The pension thing is not 75 years. It was about health insurance set asides. The Post office needs to go the way of the horse and buggy. They are inefficient and can't compete on costs with FedEx and other carriers.
Post Office Pensions: Some Key Myths And Facts
The article is too lengthy to quote here but feel free to read how it obliterates the "75 year" nonsense.
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The argument is not about how long the pension funding requirement is, it is about whether or not the USPS is solvent now and into the foreseeable future.

The fact is NOW you are going full on "its broke, its out-dated, lets kill it", abandoning the previous "it is solvent" argument.

You have, as per usual, moved the goal post, which is a loss of the point.

Good luck on your future endeavors.
 
BlueTex said:
I would provide universal care to all Americans and I certainly would call a government ENTITLEMENT health insurance someone paid for...
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Would you deny elderly and disabled Medicare because illegals don't get it, too?
 
Luce said:
So the NYT is okay when they agree with you, but otherwise not.

Gotcha.
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They happened to be the first link and I didn't need search any further.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
The argument is not about how long the pension funding requirement is, it is about whether or not the USPS is solvent now and into the foreseeable future.

The fact is NOW you are going full on "its broke, its out-dated, lets kill it", abandoning the previous "it is solvent" argument.

You have, as per usual, moved the goal post, which is a loss of the point.

Good luck on your future endeavors.
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The post office is the old Blockbuster which needs to have self help kiosks to rent DVDs. Instead it has people opening rusty mailboxes and finding nothing more than spiders in them.
 
Paradoxical said:
The post office is the old Blockbuster which needs to have self help kiosks to rent DVDs. Instead it has people opening rusty mailboxes and finding nothing more than spiders in them.
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Well 9% of 'murica agrees with you so by all means you MUST be right! :roll:
 
Paradoxical said:
The post office is the old Blockbuster which needs to have self help kiosks to rent DVDs. Instead it has people opening rusty mailboxes and finding nothing more than spiders in them.
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When provisions in the Constitution created the armed forces and the PO, they were not mandated to be profitable. What libertarians have been doing in this and past admins is to chip away at govt services and capture them, at an increase in costs to citizens, to profit corporations. Duh. Its no secret.
 
Paradoxical said:
Would you deny elderly and disabled Medicare because illegals don't get it, too?
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Of course not, but then again, I wouldn't say they had paid for it and would happily provide it for them... Let me ask you this, if we added up all your contributions to medicare and applied a return on those investments over time, would you agree to cap all your lifetime medicare expenses at that number?
 
BlueTex said:
Of course not, but then again, I wouldn't say they had paid for it and would happily provide it for them... Let me ask you this, if we added up all your contributions to medicare and applied a return on those investments over time, would you agree to cap all your lifetime medicare expenses at that number?
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How about this------Your pay for home owners insurance, say $1000.00 at year for 10 years. Your home burns down to the tune of $300,000. Do you take the settlement or say NO WAY I only paid $10,000. Do you not understand how insurance works?
 
PNW Guy said:
Well 9% of 'murica agrees with you so by all means you MUST be right! :roll:
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What question do the poll people ask? Do you want to waste 30 billion on the Post Office or ?
 
Da Mole said:
How about this------Your pay for home owners insurance, say $1000.00 at year for 10 years. Your home burns down to the tune of $300,000. Do you take the settlement or say NO WAY I only paid $10,000. Do you not understand how insurance works?
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I understand how insurance works and understand that medicare was NEVER a health insurance program... The people who pay the premiums for the current recipients are not one and the same... How exactly does an insurance company that pays out more than its reserves stay in business?

Question: Does the average medicare beneficiary receive more than they contributed?
 
Paradoxical said:
What question do the poll people ask? Do you want to waste 30 billion on the Post Office or ?
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Your points aren't even worthy of discussion. The Post offices problems were legislated into existence by the GOP. The damage could theortically be undone.

Doesn't matter you're wrong and there is ZERO to debate. You can argue yourself blue, you'll still just be wrong. I expect you will.:roll:
 
PNW Guy said:
Your points aren't even worthy of discussion. The Post offices problems were legislated into existence by the GOP. The damage could theortically be undone.

Doesn't matter you're wrong and there is ZERO to debate. You can argue yourself blue, you'll still just be wrong. I expect you will.:roll:
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I already proved that is a bull**** story
 
Gimmesometruth said:
When provisions in the Constitution created the armed forces and the PO, they were not mandated to be profitable. What libertarians have been doing in this and past admins is to chip away at govt services and capture them, at an increase in costs to citizens, to profit corporations. Duh. Its no secret.
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Bring back horse and buggies to deliver mail.
 
Paradoxical said:
What question do the poll people ask? Do you want to waste 30 billion on the Post Office or ?
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Post office > United States Military. Better W/L record for sure.
 
BlueTex said:
Of course not, but then again, I wouldn't say they had paid for it and would happily provide it for them... Let me ask you this, if we added up all your contributions to medicare and applied a return on those investments over time, would you agree to cap all your lifetime medicare expenses at that number?
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That is never the way insurance works. You know this.
 
Captain Adverse said:
Trump releases second term agenda:

Trump Campaign Announces President Trump's 2nd Term Agenda: Fighting for You! | Donald J. Trump for President

What's to disagree with?
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Sounds like the kind of platform that people use to run for Headboy or Headgirl in highschool.

No thought is spent on what steps need to be taken to realize any of these aspirations.
All thought was spent on "Lets come up with some ideas people might like"

This is so pathetic. Trump's strategy is to count on his base being non-thinkers. It is depressing how often he is awarded for this strategy.
 
Da Mole said:
So laughable, If under health care there was something labeled Trumcare you would be asking WHERE IS THE FREE LUNCH? Never satisfied, just over the top pick everything apart.
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They just asked where Trump’s healthcare plan is and your rejoinder to this is to pretend if there was a plan this person would then ask about lunch? So TRUMP earns no cynicism in this scenario, just the person asking Trump to live up to *his* promise?

I thought Republicans believed in accountability. I thought language mattered. Words matter. Intellectual dark web. Facts over feelings.
 
rjay said:
Sounds like the kind of platform that people use to run for Headboy or Headgirl in highschool.

No thought as spent on how to achieve anything. All thought was spent on "Lets come up with some ideas people might like"


This is so pathetic. Trump's strategy is to count on his base being non-thinkers. It is depressing how often he is awarded for this strategy.
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Trump literally has the dumbest and laziest base in the country. Simply showing up is a huge achievement.
 
Paradoxical said:
Should we mandate that the Pony Express come back, too?
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No, we simply have to support a service that’s constitutionally enshrined.

Or are you arguing that all gun owners need to turn in their weapons for muskets? I think that’s a really really dumb line of argument, but at least it would be consistent.
 
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