Trump says troops “going in” to Chicago after judge rules use of National Guard illegal

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Texas governor Gregg Abbot has been requested by Trump to order the Texas National Guard to go to Chicago, 'to fight crime'. Illinois Governor JD Pritzker said he has reason to believe that Trump has sent the Texas National Guard to the Great Lakes naval base, just outside Chicago, and that they are awaiting orders to deploy to the city on Sept. 16 to target Mexican Independence Day celebrations.

Provocation. Trump wants blood in the streets.

 

[reinaert]

Sending troops is blatantly a violation of
the Posse Comitatus Act and violates
the 10th amendment

I think it's a safe bet he's going to quarter them in seized properties, since he's trying to violate every clause of the Constitution.

 

[CLAX1911]

No one is, so maybe you're debating with someone else?

So then why would rate matter?

Never said that either.

See above

What little town did I pick out?

Not you.

Ah. If you formulated your understanding of what I said the same way, I can see why none of what you're saying makes sense.

Tends to be what people say when they don't have an argument.

They're not random numbers. Random numbers would be like the one you pulled out of a hat to represent the number of deaths in a city.

Unless you're going based on population size what does that have to do with crime?

I have yet to see what I'm losing since you're the one making up stats to try and hold up your house of cards premise.

The only stats I made up work for hypotheticals. What's your point?

Except that's not what I said.

Not in so many words no but when you refer to the rate of cracks it's more reflective population size than anything else

Ah, there's the cherry on top of this laughable reply. That you concluded that from what I said is priceless.

K

 

[bomberfox]

Texas governor Gregg Abbot has been requested by Trump to order the Texas National Guard to go to Chicago, 'to fight crime'. Illinois Governor JD Pritzker said he has reason to believe that Trump has sent the Texas National Guard to the Great Lakes naval base, just outside Chicago, and that they are awaiting orders to deploy to the city on Sept. 16 to target Mexican Independence Day celebrations.

I can only think that Trump wants to create chaos and blood baths in chicago.

 

[CLAX1911]

I can only think that Trump wants to create chaos and blood baths in chicago.

Then he would just leave it alone.

 

[VySky]

Cool. Now all that's needed is some former DoGE coder to get mugged/beat up in Memphis to justify the deployment of troops.

I don’t think that was the trigger you think it was.

 

[HumblePi]

I can only think that Trump wants to create chaos and blood baths in chicago.

I have seen and heard way too much of Donald Trump since the 1980s. I know what he is. I know right now he’s a desperate man, which makes him a very dangerous man. Donald Trump, in order to deflect away from the Epstein news, will go to any lengths, will create havoc in our cities, even if it would lead to a civil war. I have no doubt whatsoever, that he would start a war with Venezuela just to keep all that information out of the news. The trial of Jeffrey Epstein never really uncovered the darker side of his sex trafficking business.

JPMorgan Chase and Deutsche Bank faced lawsuits from Epstein's victims and government bodies for allegedly facilitating his sex trafficking. They completely ignored suspicious activity and red flags. There has to be a reason for that. I am certain that JPMorgan was aware of Epstein's sex trafficking, but Jeffrey Epstein was profitable for the bank, and brought in many wealthy accounts to the bank. Jamie Dimon was CEO of JP Morgan Chase during that time, and he is still CEO of JP Morgan Chase today.

So you see, there are much deeper pools that nobody has dived into which connect wealthy, powerful, men to Jeffrey Epstein. They all knew what was going on. Men with such wealth will never pay the price for what they’ve done. It’s
not only Trump trying to save himself. There’s a lot of powerful men in his shadows who are afraid, and talking in his ear.

 

[SavannahMann]

It is an interesting debate. Not just here but all over the nation. Enforce the law. Seems sensible. Seems simple. But can you enforce the law if you are breaking the law? The ends never justify the means.

That is the fly in the buttermilk. A cop gets a guy who he knows is guilty of murder. He plants the evidence to get the guy. He lies. The murderer will go free. You have to follow the rules before you can enforce them.

 

[ElChupacabra]

So then why would rate matter?

Because rates can be used to compare between cities of similar size. As it relates to the choice of sending troops to Chicago, it makes less sense to send there than a city with a higher homicide rate if concern about crime is the focus.

Tends to be what people say when they don't have an argument.

It doesn't, and your actual repetition of the same thing indicates you don't have one.

Unless you're going based on population size what does that have to do with crime?

The crime rate is measures the frequency of crime in a particular population center over a period of time. So what it can tell you is how prevalent crime is in a particular city or town. Where it comes in handy is assessing the potential risk of crime for individuals.

The only stats I made up work for hypotheticals. What's your point?

That one set was a ridiculous number.

Not in so many words no but when you refer to the rate of cracks it's more reflective population size than anything else

K

Rate of cracks?

 

[CLAX1911]

Because rates can be used to compare between cities of similar size.

That's the only way they could be used to determine anything but the size of the city.

As it relates to the choice of sending troops to Chicago, it makes less sense to send there than a city with a higher homicide rate if concern about crime is the focus.

They already sent them to DC and got that pig sty under control.

It doesn't,

Don't tell me what I observe

and your actual repetition of the same thing indicates you don't have one.

So what are you typing all of this for?

The crime rate is measures the frequency of crime in a particular population center over a period of time. So what it can tell you is how prevalent crime is in a particular city or town. Where it comes in handy is assessing the potential risk of crime for individuals.

Too bad deep blue shit holes never do unless a dictator comes to visit

That one set was a ridiculous number.

Boo hoo

Rate of cracks?

Meant crime should be obvious.

 

[ElChupacabra]

That's the only way they could be used to determine anything but the size of the city.

Incorrect.

They already sent them to DC and got that pig sty under control.

They haven't, and you have no metrics to prove that.

Don't tell me what I observe

Your reading comprehension fails you again.

So what are you typing all of this for?

I am responding to your comment, or do you think it best your comments be ignored?

Too bad deep blue shit holes never do unless a dictator comes to visit

Cite what "deep blue s*** holes" have had dictators come to visit.

Meant crime should be obvious.

What should be obvious is you typing words correctly and not assume others are supposed to decypher poor word choices.

 

[Jagged]

It's very clear Chicago is a dangerous place. It appears that democrats running the city government are OK with crime and more OK with lying about it. First job of government is to keep people safe. It seems that for democrats the first job is letting offenders off the hook for any and all crimes they commit in this city. Chicago is by no means the only city, mostly democrat controlled with huge crime and safety issues for the law abiding public. It doesn't have to be this way but democrats will not crack down on criminals.

Chicago's crime rate is 4029.75, ranked 48th.

Whereas Memphis's crime rate is 9456.19, ranked #1.

So why invade Chicago and not Memphis? Or anyone of the other 46 states with a higher crime rate than Chicago?

List of United States cities by crime rate - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[CLAX1911]

Incorrect.

Lie

They haven't, and you have no metrics to prove that.

Sure I don't. Nobody ever keeps up with any of this stuff.

Your reading comprehension fails you again.

Because you worried about what I observe?

I am responding to your comment, or do you think it best your comments be ignored?

Why are you responding to my comments if there's no point what's the point?

I can't figure out other than just ego what the hell you're trying to prove.

Cite what "deep blue s*** holes" have had dictators come to visit.

California rolled out the red carpet for a genocidal dictator. Xi jinping

What should be obvious is you typing words correctly and not assume others are supposed to decypher poor word choices.

You misspelled decipher.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

Trump and the Fanboys apparently really want trouble they can gin up and declare Martial Law. My question is this. Have you really considered it? I mean really?

MAGAts are incapable of seeing beyond the ends of their noses, even when they’re the ones hurt most.

“Owning” libs is all that matters to Traitor Trump and his MAGAt.

 

[CLAX1911]

Chicago's crime rate is 4029.75, ranked 48th.

Whereas Memphis's crime rate is 9456.19, ranked #1.

So why invade Chicago and not Memphis? Or anyone of the other 46 states with a higher crime rate than Chicago?

Memphis population is one eight Chicago's

 

[Jagged]

Memphis population is one eight Chicago's

So? People in Memphis are roughly twice as likely to be a victim of crime than those who are in Chicago.

So why isn't Trump invading cities to protect those most susceptible to crime?

 

[RaleBulgarian]

He is treasonous judges obstructing is not really law

Including those judges that Traitor Trump appointed?

 

[CLAX1911]

So? People in Memphis are roughly twice as likely to be a victim of crime than those who are in Chicago.

Crime rates are victims rates now?

So why isn't Trump invading cities to protect those most susceptible to crime?

Less significant due to being tiny.

 

[CLAX1911]

Including those judges that Traitor Trump appointed?

Sure. One of my criticisms of Trump is his hiring practice.

 

[Jagged]

Crime rates are victims rates now?

Less significant due to being tiny.

Yes, the rate indicates how likely someone will be a victim of crime. Apparently, Trump has another motive for invading cities other than crime.

 

[CLAX1911]

Yes, the rate indicates how likely someone will be a victim of crime.

Really I thought it measured a crime committed. Do you not think there's a such thing as a victimless crime?

Apparently, Trump has another motive for invading cities other than crime.

Yes it's about sedition.

 

[devildavid]

Why is it against the law for the President to send assistance to cities plagued by crime, murder, violent attacks, gang activity, and rampant youth crime, especially when local governments refuse to protect law-abiding citizens? It's ironic that those who accuse Trump of breaking the law by using federal resources to support police and ensure public safety are the same ones demanding he provide various forms of social aid and funding for socialist initiatives, while allowing criminals to run wild. If Trump can't intervene in one area, how can he be expected to manage the other? The federal government already provides financial support to cities across the U.S. with federal funds. Addressing crime and ensuring the safety of Americans, no matter where they reside, is a key responsibility of the President, even more crucial than funding social programs.

Because the laws of the land say so. That is why anything is against the law. Even law enforcement must operate under the laws of the land.

 

[ElChupacabra]

Lie

Sure I don't. Nobody ever keeps up with any of this stuff.


Because you worried about what I observe?

Why are you responding to my comments if there's no point what's the point?

I can't figure out other than just ego what the hell you're trying to prove.

California rolled out the red carpet for a genocidal dictator. Xi jinping

You misspelled decipher.

Cool. Thanks for confirming responding to you is a waste of time.

 

[CLAX1911]

Cool. Thanks for confirming responding to you is a waste of time.

Yep trying to give you agree with your spin it's always a waste of time in the future don't even bother.

 

[devildavid]

He is treasonous judges obstructing is not really law

There are no treasonous judges. They are ruling on the laws and precedents which is doing their job. If only Trump would do his and not keep violating his oath of office. He is the one committing treason.