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Trump says federal crime crackdown will target Chicago next

NatMorton

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Source: https://thehill.com/homenews/5466004-trump-targets-chicago-crime/

While I think the Illinois governor and Chicago mayor should have called in the National Guard long ago in order to save lives on Chicago's South Side, I had thought Trump lacked the authority to do this over the objection of local officials.

Then I was reminded of Eisenhower's mobilization of the Arkansas National Guard to enforce desegregation in the 1950s, so now I'm not so sure. Trump may have the authority to do this.
 
So it begins.

The breakdown of the United States as a cohesive political union is beginning to take shape.

If you've ever studied history, you will see how small things coalesce into major fracture points over time.

Trump is hell bent on ****ing the US politically, socially, legally, economically and fundamentally as a political unit and rule over the ashes.
 
Eisenhower used the Enforcement Acts to justify his deployment of the National Guard to enforce desegregation in Arkansas. These acts were specifically related to protecting and enforcing voting rights for minorities, which applied in Arkansas at that time. I don't think there is a way to use this to justify using the National Guard as a police force in Chicago in 2025 without the approval of the State.
 
Hadn't segregation formally ended by law by then? And if it had, what Arkansas was trying to do was illegal.
 
Calling in the National Guard absolutely would not “save lives”. A bunch of national guardsmen getting killed on the South and West Side would not be remotely surprising.
 

Were you not reminded of the use of the NG at Kent State?
 
Armed forces deployed to cities is just window dressing.

If you want to move the needle address the root causes and fund more cops.
Fund more food and work on american's poverty levels.
 
You might be correct, unless one can connect being murdered with the loss of a civil right.
 
Trump is threatening to expand his experiment in martial law to other cities? Who would ever have thought? Everyone.....everyone knew that what Trump is doing in DC is just testing the waters and he'll try to take it against any and all blue states.
 
Um, there will be something like a dozen murders in Chicago this weekend. You can pretty much set your watch by them, and one could reasonably call each of those "an incident."
Post #14

"There will be something like a dozen murders in Memphis this weekend. You can pretty much set your watch by them."

Damn, this is fun! But, seriously, why isn't trump determined to protect people in Memphis?
 
No, I was not. We're not talking about protests. We're talking about homicides and other violent crime.

Please describe why you believe there's a difference in how the NG will respond?
 
The killings at Kent State are an inconvenient fact MAGA likes to ignore.
Done by the untrained-in-policing National Guard.

Yep, too close to today's trump's targeting of blue cities for MAGA to take into consideration.
 
So the NG can be sent anywhere someone is murdered? That seems like a really broad power.
No, I think that would be, pardon the pun, overkill.

They may be needed in areas where local police cannot control the murder rate.
 

Chicago isn't even close to the top ten most dangerous cities. Try Memphis.

If he sends troops to Chicago, it's not about crime.
 
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