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Trump says changes are coming to ICE raid policy: 'We must protect our farmers

Trump is a dumbass only doing what right wing nuts like Stephen Miller whisper in his ear. Then they implement a dumbass plan and find out that “who knew deportation could be so complicated?” This stuff is so obvious like all the dumbass stuff Trump does until real world consequences come back to bite his fat ass. No shit, this plan was going to disrupt business people who have long term illegals for employees. What dumbass thought this wouldn’t happen with a stupid numbers quota approach. Oh yeah, the dumbass president and his dumbass cult followers. Guess some of them need a new roof, landscaping, an addition to their house, or just some food on their table. Who knew?
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Once the exception (amnesty?) for one industry (employment sector?) is ‘officially’ made, expect more of them.
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Why not support the unionization of farm workers and hotel and leisure workers, raising the minimum wage and enforcing pesticide and worker safety regulations so that citizens and legal immigrants will take those jobs from illegals?

If you listen carefully, you can hear republicans gagging at my suggestion.
 
madman said:
TACO is Taco'ing again!!!

\And now he's back tracking AGAIN!

So now he's not going after farm workers??? What's the matter, Taco?


abc7.com

Trump says changes are coming to ICE raid policy: 'We must protect our farmers'

President Donald Trump is reversing course on his immigration raid policy when it comes to farm workers, he announced on Truth Social on Thursday.
abc7.com abc7.com

FRESNO, Calif. -- President Donald Trump is reversing course on his immigration raid policy when it comes to farm workers, he announced on Truth Social.

"Our great farmers and people in the hotel and leisure business have been stating that our very aggressive policy on immigration is taking very good, long-time workers away from them, with those jobs being almost impossible to replace," Trump wrote. "...We must protect our farmers, but get criminals out of the U.S.A. Changes are coming!"

According to the U.S. Agriculture Department, 42% of crop farmworkers from 2020 to 2022 lacked legal status.

California Gov. Gavin Newsom said the change is happening because Californians spoke up. "Keep it going. Keep it peaceful. It's working," he wrote on X.

In a post on social media, Newsom shared a story about a 12-year-old boy he met in Oxnard, California whose parents had been taken by agents. They had been working the fields for over 20 years.

"Donald Trump may not care about him, but he's finally listening to you calling out these indiscriminate acts of cruelty," Newsom said. "Let's keep up the pressure, and let's do it peacefully."
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If he does this watch the Nazi Miller resign
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Once the exception (amnesty?) for one industry (employment sector?) is ‘officially’ made, expect more of them.
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Indeed..the proper thing to do is approach Congress with immigration reform and perhaps a workers program or allowing people here that have been productive and otherwise law abiding regularize their status
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Once the exception (amnesty?) for one industry (employment sector?) is ‘officially’ made, expect more of them.
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Of course there will be. More and more of his supporters - who thought they hated immigrants - are realizing their businesses will suffer too.

www.thedailybeast.com

Trump Voter Gets Choked Up After ICE Detains a Third of His Staff

A Florida roofing boss backed the president’s tough immigration policies. Then six of his workers were taken away...
www.thedailybeast.com www.thedailybeast.com
 
So Trump is finally admitting that some illegals are "good people" and provide a service that some American citizens won't do.

Maybe he should consider a fast track to citizenship for those "good people" and dreamers. Unfortunately, I suspect they don't have $5million to buy the Gold Card President Trump is promoting.
 
Basically he is beginning to design yet another a tool he can use to disrupt blue states and urban areas, and not disrupt red states and rural areas. Soon he will be directing exactly which states and which governors ICE can move against, based on his most current enemies/friends list. That's exactly what he will do with FEMA too.
 
madman said:
TACO is Taco'ing again!!!

\And now he's back tracking AGAIN!

So now he's not going after farm workers??? What's the matter, Taco?


abc7.com

Trump says changes are coming to ICE raid policy: 'We must protect our farmers'

President Donald Trump is reversing course on his immigration raid policy when it comes to farm workers, he announced on Truth Social on Thursday.
abc7.com abc7.com

FRESNO, Calif. -- President Donald Trump is reversing course on his immigration raid policy when it comes to farm workers, he announced on Truth Social.

"Our great farmers and people in the hotel and leisure business have been stating that our very aggressive policy on immigration is taking very good, long-time workers away from them, with those jobs being almost impossible to replace," Trump wrote. "...We must protect our farmers, but get criminals out of the U.S.A. Changes are coming!"

According to the U.S. Agriculture Department, 42% of crop farmworkers from 2020 to 2022 lacked legal status.

California Gov. Gavin Newsom said the change is happening because Californians spoke up. "Keep it going. Keep it peaceful. It's working," he wrote on X.

In a post on social media, Newsom shared a story about a 12-year-old boy he met in Oxnard, California whose parents had been taken by agents. They had been working the fields for over 20 years.

"Donald Trump may not care about him, but he's finally listening to you calling out these indiscriminate acts of cruelty," Newsom said. "Let's keep up the pressure, and let's do it peacefully."
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This is typical of Trump, never planning, never thinking through the consequences, never asking for a staff or task force to come up with a thoughtful plan with contingencies. He had no idea (and still does not) how many illegals work and in what sectors, and where mass roundups might be affecting them. Why?

Well aside from his organic cognitive impairment, the other reason is his ego will not allow it - Donald Trump loves the lessor people coming to his throne asking for dispensation. It thrills him to hand out special favors, to "take charge" and "fix" things on the fly, and the more individuals that line up to seek his help to repair the damage he has caused, the better. The worst thing for Donald Trump's ego is to have an organized system, a program that is self-correct and doesn't need his constant crisis management and does not provide opportunities for bragging that things are even more wonderful. Something that works would not allow him the opportunity to brag that he has "fixed" his mess again where no one else could.

I had a boss like him once - craving to participate in his department heads minutiae, and never so happy as when someone came to him about problems that should have been taken care of by his lower-level managers. Like Trump he was easily manipulated by the unscrupulous, loving it when otherwise high-level professionals sucked up to him by calling him "boss", and he was very big on showboating the trivial.

The worst thing you could do is your own job so well there wasn't any reason to involve him, to report "loyalty" issues and petty drama.

So it now dawns on Trump that he is causing his farming constituency trouble, so just like when Elon Musk lobbied for retaining highly skilled foreign labor and Trump was quick to exempt them, now he is relenting on low skilled foreign illegal labor

In other words, he is going to toss out foreign labor except for those that have jobs - ummm, he just reversed his own campaign promises and making his own mass deportation program reverse itself.

What a putz.

PS I wonder when Tyson and Hormel line up to seek protection for their packing plant labor, and with construction firms line up for their "special exceptions".

Just another cluster "F" by Trump.
 
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ClaraD said:
Indeed..the proper thing to do is approach Congress with immigration reform and perhaps a workers program or allowing people here that have been productive and otherwise law abiding regularize their status
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That latter thing you suggest happened under Reagan, I believe. But my view is to question why farm workers should be viewed as anything different from factory workers. I remember studying the history of this division when I worked for Cesar Chavez’s union in the 1970s. When labor reforms like the right to organize, overtime, etc., were proposed under FDR, some (I believe southern) Democrats said they would go along so long as Ag workers were excluded. Therefore, overtime for farm workers was after 54 hours, not 40. There was no unemployment insurance and worker’s compensation for them, they had no right to gather signatures for union representation, etc. A lot of this was race-based, as farm workers in the East were Black, in the West, Latino or Filipino. One grower was quoted as saying, “We used to own slaves; now we rent them.”

But the bottom line question is why should farm labor be viewed as different than factory labor?
 
madman said:
TACO is Taco'ing again!!!

\And now he's back tracking AGAIN!

So now he's not going after farm workers??? What's the matter, Taco?


abc7.com

Trump says changes are coming to ICE raid policy: 'We must protect our farmers'

President Donald Trump is reversing course on his immigration raid policy when it comes to farm workers, he announced on Truth Social on Thursday.
abc7.com abc7.com

FRESNO, Calif. -- President Donald Trump is reversing course on his immigration raid policy when it comes to farm workers, he announced on Truth Social.

"Our great farmers and people in the hotel and leisure business have been stating that our very aggressive policy on immigration is taking very good, long-time workers away from them, with those jobs being almost impossible to replace," Trump wrote. "...We must protect our farmers, but get criminals out of the U.S.A. Changes are coming!"

According to the U.S. Agriculture Department, 42% of crop farmworkers from 2020 to 2022 lacked legal status.

California Gov. Gavin Newsom said the change is happening because Californians spoke up. "Keep it going. Keep it peaceful. It's working," he wrote on X.

In a post on social media, Newsom shared a story about a 12-year-old boy he met in Oxnard, California whose parents had been taken by agents. They had been working the fields for over 20 years.

"Donald Trump may not care about him, but he's finally listening to you calling out these indiscriminate acts of cruelty," Newsom said. "Let's keep up the pressure, and let's do it peacefully."
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Keep it peaceful? It hasn't been peaceful at all. Anyone who thinks it has is not paying attention.
 
Trump is all about cruelty and propaganda as long as it not interfere with the main goal of enriching himself and his cronies.

That Trump have for example spread racist lies about immigrants. Sent innocent people to horrific prison in El Salvador, including those who legally entered the US. Detained an academic for writing an OP ED. While revoking the legal status for hundreds of thousands.

www.nbcnews.com

Bomb threat in Springfield spurs fear and closures after false anti-migrant claims

City Hall closed its doors and officials asked people to avoid the area.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com

www.cbsnews.com

U.S. sent 238 migrants to Salvadoran mega-prison; documents indicate most have no apparent criminal records

The U.S. sent 238 Venezuelan migrants to a Salvadoran mega-prison. The Trump administration says they're all gang members, but 60 Minutes could find no criminal records for 75% of them.
www.cbsnews.com www.cbsnews.com

www.bbc.com

Rumeysa Ozturk: Turkish Tufts University student released on bail

Her arrest followed the White House's crackdown on what it has classified as antisemitism on US campuses.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com


While now he suddenly support businesses that have hired undocumented immigrants because it benefit his donors.
 
Once again Donnie reacts without thinking and has to try to fix his f*ck up.
 
TangoNoCash said:
And just like that you’re okay with illegal workers eh?
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I want the H-2A program to treat workers more then 'temporary need' because of lack US labor to pick crops.
There were Seasonal Workers before all this where Mexican/Central American workers crossed into thw USA, and then went back
They could plan their lives on being able to work in the USA and then go back home.

The current policy doesn't allow for a worker to come and go on a regular basis. So those that come to work agri, choose to stay year round rather then risk not getting in for work the next year
 
Nickyjo said:
That latter thing you suggest happened under Reagan, I believe. But my view is to question why farm workers should be viewed as anything different from factory workers. I remember studying the history of this division when I worked for Cesar Chavez’s union in the 1970s. When labor reforms like the right to organize, overtime, etc., were proposed under FDR, some (I believe southern) Democrats said they would go along so long as Ag workers were excluded. Therefore, overtime for farm workers was after 54 hours, not 40. There was no unemployment insurance and worker’s compensation for them, they had no right to gather signatures for union representation, etc. A lot of this was race-based, as farm workers in the East were Black, in the West, Latino or Filipino. One grower was quoted as saying, “We used to own slaves; now we rent them.”

But the bottom line question is why should farm labor be viewed as different than factory labor?
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Yes , it's a strange situation, I have a question.

If ICE detains someone, they can ask what job they have. If they say housekeeping or farm labor, you're free to go. If they say construction or factory worker, it's deportation. That's easy, just say you work at a hotel.
 
soap box said:
Yes , it's a strange situation, I have a question.

If ICE detains someone, they can ask what job they have. If they say housekeeping or farm labor, you're free to go. If they say construction or factory worker, it's deportation. That's easy, just say you work at a hotel.
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Really? They distinguish among places where those without documents work? I remember hearing stories about the old INS delaying raids on agricultural fields until the harvest came in, but never really believed it.
 
ClaraD said:
Indeed..the proper thing to do is approach Congress with immigration reform and perhaps a workers program or allowing people here that have been productive and otherwise law abiding regularize their status
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"Legislation is hard"........ all fascist leaders ever.
 
TACO isn’t protecting ‘real’ farmers, the small ones.
The small dumb ****in farmers that keep voting for him are getting ****ed.
Trump’s protecting the factory farms you’ll see on I-76 west side Nebraska to Denver.
You can’t see much anymore of these dairy ‘ranches’ worked by illegals.
Tens of miles of tall berms have been built to hide the ranc(hes) from view.
Trump will not invade a state or district of his.
Take a driving vacay.
 
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Hamish Howl said:
This is sort of like asking your dog to sing Elton John songs.
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Like the $5 million to bribe in yo the 🇺🇸
All those ranchers paying their dues to Trump.
Trump putting together an EO for ‘his’ ranchers’ workers.
And slaughterhouses;
No protections for workers’ conditions, wages, and organs.
Trump and Xi now have a similar Uyghur slave population.
In all of ‘our’ meat industry.
With rat feces dripping from the ceiling in red district 🇺🇸
 
anatta said:
Nuanced policy due to supply of critical labor, (farm workers are critical, if underpaid) I especially like seeing Trump amend his
previous policy to protect farm workers
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Yes from one TACO to another you sane wash demented Don yet again.
 
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