Trump Repeats Lie About Popular Vote in Meeting With Lawmakers

[haymarket]

His supporters wouldn't care if it was proven that he was a schizophrenic psychopath. The only thing that they care about is that he's "pissin' off them libtards" I will say though that the guy runs his mouth like he's got turrets syndrome.

Sadly - you are correct.

 

[haymarket]

8 years of Obama gave us Trump, something you fail to recognize

That hammer just hit your patella again.

 

[Conservative]

I was discussing a national political figure and provided verifiable evidence for my position.

Why are you attacking me ?

No, you provided one opinion on the subject and buy the opinion because that is what you want to believe. I am not attacking you but rather your ideology and total ignorance of even basic civics. Donald Trump isn't the problem, your lack of understanding as to the role of the Federal Govt., the foundation upon which this country was built, the economic performance of the last 8 years, and your Rodney King attitude of "can't we all get along" is the problem. Your can't we all get along attitude is only good if we get along with the way you want and the leftwing ideology. You had 8 years to get results and the legacy is there for all to see

Obama’s legacy is a devastated Democratic Party | New York Post

 

[haymarket]

No, you provided one opinion on the subject and buy the opinion because that is what you want to believe. I am not attacking you but rather your ideology and total ignorance of even basic civics. Donald Trump isn't the problem, your lack of understanding as to the role of the Federal Govt., the foundation upon which this country was built, the economic performance of the last 8 years, and your Rodney King attitude of "can't we all get along" is the problem. Your can't we all get along attitude is only good if we get along with the way you want and the leftwing ideology. You had 8 years to get results and the legacy is there for all to see

Obama’s legacy is a devastated Democratic Party | New York Post

I provided my opinion and evidence to support it.

YES - you did attack me and said I needed help. Its beyond sad that you have to resort to attacking a poster just because your idol has been criticized here.

 

[Conservative]

I provided my opinion and evidence to support it.

YES - you did attack me and said I needed help. Its beyond sad that you have to resort to attacking a poster just because your idol has been criticized here.

Your evidence talks about the mental capacity of someone who has never been evaluated and based upon the opinions based upon what someone else perceives. You do need help because it was you that raised the issue of legitimacy and now when that failed it is on to mental health of the President. That is a sad state of affairs when someone like you cannot accept the results of the EC and do whatever you can to demonize the legitimate President of the US because you don't like what he says. If you don't like what he says then you aren't going to like the results because he is doing exactly what he promised and the direction is certainly positive as evidenced by WH meeting reports, the stock market, and the pro growth policies putting America first. Flyover country is getting what we wanted and you are having a problem accepting that.

 

[calamity]

Your evidence talks about the mental capacity of someone who has never been evaluated and based upon the opinions based upon what someone else perceives. You do need help because it was you that raised the issue of legitimacy and now when that failed it is on to mental health of the President. That is a sad state of affairs when someone like you cannot accept the results of the EC and do whatever you can to demonize the legitimate President of the US because you don't like what he says. If you don't like what he says then you aren't going to like the results because he is doing exactly what he promised and the direction is certainly positive as evidenced by WH meeting reports, the stock market, and the pro growth policies putting America first. Flyover country is getting what we wanted and you are having a problem accepting that.

Trump Supports like this

 

[ARealConservative]

your little hick town?

your bigotry is showing

 

[haymarket]

Your evidence talks about the mental capacity of someone who has never been evaluated and based upon the opinions based upon what someone else perceives. You do need help because it was you that raised the issue of legitimacy and now when that failed it is on to mental health of the President. That is a sad state of affairs when someone like you cannot accept the results of the EC and do whatever you can to demonize the legitimate President of the US because you don't like what he says. If you don't like what he says then you aren't going to like the results because he is doing exactly what he promised and the direction is certainly positive as evidenced by WH meeting reports, the stock market, and the pro growth policies putting America first. Flyover country is getting what we wanted and you are having a problem accepting that.

The opinions of mental health professionals were provided as evidence in post 241.

President Barack Obama
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20500

November 29, 2016

Dear President Obama,

We are writing to express our grave concern regarding the mental stability of our President-Elect. Professional standards do not permit us to venture a diagnosis for a public figure whom we have not evaluated personally. Nevertheless, his widely reported symptoms of mental instability — including grandiosity, impulsivity, hypersensitivity to slights or criticism, and an apparent inability to distinguish between fantasy and reality — lead us to question his fitness for the immense responsibilities of the office. We strongly recommend that, in preparation for assuming these responsibilities, he receive a full medical and neuropsychiatric evaluation by an impartial team of investigators.

Sincerely,

Judith Herman, M.D.
Professor of Psychiatry
Harvard Medical School

Nanette Gartrell, M.D.
Associate Clinical Professor of Psychiatry
University of California, San Francisco (1988-2011)
Assistant Professor of Psychiatry, Harvard Medical School (1983-87)

Dee Mosbacher, M.D., Ph.D.
Assistant Clinical Professor
Department of Community Health Systems
University of California, San Francisco (2005-2013)

And your only reaction is to attack me because I dared to criticize your idol. That is beyond pathetic and has no place in debate.

 

[ARealConservative]

Read this and be very afraid for our nation and our people.

with people like you voting, I have been very afraid for a long time

Professional standards do not permit us to venture a diagnosis for a public figure whom we have not evaluated personally. Nevertheless...

apparently they aren't professional, since they proceed to give a diagnosis.

cookoo cookoo

 

[Conservative]

Trump Supports like this

Doesn't look like Middle America to me which is what put Trump on the WH. Going to be a long four years for you

 

[Conservative]

The opinions of mental health professionals were provided as evidence in post 241.



And your only reaction is to attack me because I dared to criticize your idol. That is beyond pathetic and has no place in debate.

My idol? You certainly have no understanding of civics at all. feel sorry for the kids you taught. I gave you the reason I voted for Trump and couldn't be prouder of his first week in office. Change is what I wanted and change is what I am getting. You have a problem with anything that flies in the face of your ideology and have a problem accepting the reality that your ideology was rejected. When you call the President of the United States basically mentally unstable and base it up unsubstantiated reports from people who probably have never met it, that makes you the dangerous one, not Trump

 

[Mithros]

My idol? You certainly have no understanding of civics at all. feel sorry for the kids you taught. I gave you the reason I voted for Trump and couldn't be prouder of his first week in office. Change is what I wanted and change is what I am getting. You have a problem with anything that flies in the face of your ideology and have a problem accepting the reality that your ideology was rejected. When you call the President of the United States basically mentally unstable and base it up unsubstantiated reports from people who probably have never met it, that makes you the dangerous one, not Trump

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/millman/stephen-walt-on-the-coming-trump-train-wreck/

The American Conservative is calling Trump a train wreck.

 

[Conservative]

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/millman/stephen-walt-on-the-coming-trump-train-wreck/

The American Conservative is calling Trump a train wreck.

I call what i am seeing is implementation of his campaign promises and a success. The latest daily tracking polls supports my claim. Don't really care about articles but rather results and that is what Trump is getting. What in that article is a train wreck in your world?

Looks like a lot of speculation to me. I however will respond to actual action like cutting off funding for sanctuary cities. Looks like a boom to the Treasury

 

[Mithros]

I call what i am seeing is implementation of his campaign promises and a success. The latest daily tracking polls supports my claim. Don't really care about articles but rather results and that is what Trump is getting. What in that article is a train wreck in your world?

Looks like a lot of speculation to me. I however will respond to actual action like cutting off funding for sanctuary cities. Looks like a boom to the Treasury

Actually, this is what's known as confirmation bias. Where you only look at numbers that are favorable to your viewpoints and ignore the rest. It makes you easy to take advantage of.

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - Trump: Favorable/Unfavorable

 

[Conservative]

Actually, this is what's known as confirmation bias. Where you only look at numbers that are favorable to your viewpoints and ignore the rest. It makes you easy to take advantage of.

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - Trump: Favorable/Unfavorable

Watching Trump deliver on his campaign promises and the outrage on the part of people like you is good enough for me to claim victory. You "ain't" seen nothing yet. the favorable ratings are rising and will go through the roof just like the stock market which you cannot seem to explain either. How about telling us what it is about the Trump agenda, EO's that you have a problem with and what does Trump have to do for you to admit you were wrong about him?

 

[Conservative]

Actually, this is what's known as confirmation bias. Where you only look at numbers that are favorable to your viewpoints and ignore the rest. It makes you easy to take advantage of.

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - Trump: Favorable/Unfavorable

By the way you had not problem posting the link but seem to have a problem understanding the dates in that link most of which were last week or before. One week tomorrow is when Trump took office and polls starting this past Monday are better polls showing the upswing in support. You seem to have a lot invested in your anti Trump opinions and the question is why? What is it you want from the President? More of Obamanomics and if so why?

 

[haymarket]

with people like you voting, I have been very afraid for a long time



apparently they aren't professional, since they proceed to give a diagnosis.

cookoo cookoo

See the attack on me... and I see the attack on Professors of Psychiatry from Harvard and other top schools ........ but where is your refutation?

 

[haymarket]

My idol? You certainly have no understanding of civics at all. feel sorry for the kids you taught.

Attacking me and my career and service is pathetic and insulting - of course that is what you use instead of actual debate.

Why don't you deal with the evidence about Trumps mental condition instead of attacking me or a vague broadside against learned professionals in the field?

 

[Conservative]

See the attack on me... and I see the attack on Professors of Psychiatry from Harvard and other top schools ........ but where is your refutation?

Nothing to refute, Trump hasn't been evaluated by anyone in person. In this country people are innocent until proven guilty and you have not done that

 

[Conservative]

Attacking me and my career and service is pathetic and insulting - of course that is what you use instead of actual debate.

Why don't you deal with the evidence about Trumps mental condition instead of attacking me or a vague broadside against learned professionals in the field?

You are what you post and when you call the President illegitimate and then mentally unstable without even an individual evaluation you prove exactly how credible you are. Trump's mental condition is an issue drummed up by you based upon what you want to believe. Trump is doing exactly what he says he would do and that drives people like you crazy because you haven't seen it for 8 years

 

[vash1012]

The choice was trump or four more years of Obama through Hillary so yes, Obama is still a topic of discussion as was his legacy and poor economic results which is why so many illegals had the incentive to vote for Hillary and many probably did

Do you disagree with the statement that our economy is much better than it was in 2008 and 2009? If so, then you are not living in reality and I will not debate with you so please answer that before we go on. You can make speculative statements that our economy could have grown much faster than it did, and I would agree that it could have grown somewhat faster than it did, but I don't really call that a failure. Obama prioritized some things ahead of simple economic growth and his plans that would have contributed to faster economic growth were largely obstructed by Republicans in an effort to make him a one term president, by their own admission. The world's economy is growing slowly too so I think there's clearly a number of reasons why our economy is not growing fast outside of Obama's influence.

 

[haymarket]

Nothing to refute, Trump hasn't been evaluated by anyone in person. In this country people are innocent until proven guilty and you have not done that

You do realize that a professional can see far far far more of who Donald Trump is after his many years in the public eye, his speeches and pronouncements by the hundred, his debate performances, his Q & A sessions, his books in which he reveals much about his thinking process, and his recorded reactions in dealing with other people than a panel of professionals know Trump far far far better from this exhaustive supply of information about the man than any in person one on one session with somebody for an hour who they have never see or heard of before.

 

[haymarket]

You are what you post and when you call the President illegitimate and then mentally unstable without even an individual evaluation you prove exactly how credible you are. Trump's mental condition is an issue drummed up by you based upon what you want to believe. Trump is doing exactly what he says he would do and that drives people like you crazy because you haven't seen it for 8 years

see post 272

 

[Conservative]

Do you disagree with the statement that our economy is much better than it was in 2008 and 2009? If so, then you are not living in reality and I will not debate with you so please answer that before we go on. You can make speculative statements that our economy could have grown much faster than it did, and I would agree that it could have grown somewhat faster than it did, but I don't really call that a failure. Obama prioritized some things ahead of simple economic growth and his plans that would have contributed to faster economic growth were largely obstructed by Republicans in an effort to make him a one term president, by their own admission. The world's economy is growing slowly too so I think there's clearly a number of reasons why our economy is not growing fast outside of Obama's influence.

I realize that you are going to believe what you want to believe with a left leaning slant. The economy has to be better than it was in 2008 with 10 trillion added to the debt but the reality is all that govt. spending is what created the GDP we have today, not consumer spending, not major job creation, not meaningful jobs. If you don't call the Obama legacy as shown in the results a failure then there truly is no hope for you at all. This isn't the world economy where in excess of 50% of the GDP is govt. spending, those countries are going to have slow growth. Our slow growth was Obama initiated due to poor leadership and poor economic polices

Obama’s legacy is a devastated Democratic Party | New York Post

 

[Conservative]

You do realize that a professional can see far far far more of who Donald Trump is after his many years in the public eye, his speeches and pronouncements by the hundred, his debate performances, his Q & A sessions, his books in which he reveals much about his thinking process, and his recorded reactions in dealing with other people than a panel of professionals know Trump far far far better from this exhaustive supply of information about the man than any in person one on one session with somebody for an hour who they have never see or heard of before.

Trump will be judged on his performance and results not his speeches. He is off to a great start doing exactly what he said he would do and his daily tracking polls supports that