Trump Repeats Lie About Popular Vote in Meeting With Lawmakers

[Conservative]

No, I have not and I do have an open mind and while I am not partisan I do hate anything fraudulent.

Yes, but not to any significant degree as I mentioned earlier.

Well lets see. Of all the things he has done and are taken to be positive no results can be shown yet. I am more than willing to wait and discuss when results are in. On the other hand when right off the bat an new administration starts with lies and pursuit of stupid insignificant things, those are very discouraging is they become the norm.

He has been in office less than a week and already the tone is positive, the direction positive, stock market over 20,000, Union Teamster President positive, Business leaders positive, Keystone Pipeline, Immigration issues, the wall, sanctuary cities, putting America first. Pretty amazing for the first week

 

[Conservative]

OFFS, now you're being deliberately obtuse.

Goodbye

Good bye, wonder if you are mature enough to admit you were wrong IF Trump delivers on his promises? Nothing independent about you

 

[prometeus]

He has been in office less than a week and already the tone is positive, the direction positive, stock market over 20,000, Union Teamster President positive, Business leaders positive, Keystone Pipeline, Immigration issues, the wall, sanctuary cities, putting America first. Pretty amazing for the first week

I am not that easily impressed. I will wait for tangible results while being discouraged by petty lies that were unnecessary but point to a poor temperament.

 

[Fearandloathing]

Good bye, wonder if you are mature enough to admit you were wrong IF Trump delivers on his promises? Nothing independent about you

Now you're baiting.


Have a nice life, we are done here.

 

[Conservative]

I am not that easily impressed. I will wait for tangible results while being discouraged by petty lies that were unnecessary but point to a poor temperament.

It hasn't been a week yet but the trend is positive. whether you like his temperament or not is irrelevant for it is results that matter. If he generates the results promised then temperament isn't going to be an issue although the liberals here going ballistic because they lost the election. How can anyone be so tied to a political candidate that they would do some of the things they are doing simply because they lost. Most have no concept of basic civics

 

[prometeus]

...whether you like his temperament or not is irrelevant for it is results that matter.

Yes, that is true.

If he generates the results promised then temperament isn't going to be an issue although the liberals here going ballistic because they lost the election.

Then why feed them with such inane lies? How can that possibly be beneficial to anyone, especially in light of the intended unification of the people?

How can anyone be so tied to a political candidate

Ask that of yourself first.

that they would do some of the things they are doing simply because they lost. Most have no concept of basic civics

Karma or payback is a bitch and fairly so in light of what Republicans did to the previous winner.

 

[Conservative]

Yes, that is true.

Then why feed them with such inane lies? How can that possibly be beneficial to anyone, especially in light of the intended unification of the people?

Ask that of yourself first.

Karma or payback is a bitch and fairly so in light of what Republicans did to the previous winner.

The bigger issue is how do you know they are lies? I laid out the case as tot he illegal incentive to vote for Hillary and you failed to respond to it but the reality is I have absolutely no faith in any state that doesn't enforce Voter ID laws or even have them, promotes illegal activity in the state, believes that illegals have the right to vote, allows illegals to get a valid driver's license and promotes sanctuary cities. How can anyone give these elected officials any credibility regarding monitoring and assuring that illegals didn't vote?

Bottom line, I am not married to any candidate but rather an ideology, the only one that makes any sense, Conservatism. I voted for Trump because he represented change, change that is needed based upon the last decade of economic results. The status quo is a disaster as results show, not sure why so many don't see it.

 

[vash1012]

Damaging the rest of the economy? you mean like Obama did as he inherited what you and others called the worst recession since the Great Depression yet never had one year of economic growth exceeding 3%? Is that a record you are proud of or how about are you proud of the Obama legacy that lost the House in 2010, failed to regain it in 2012, lost the Congress in 2014 and the WH and Congress in 2016? Is it your contention that the economic results of Obama have been distorted by the facts in BEA.gov, BLS.gov, and Treasury and that the electorate got it wrong? Would love to hear your explanation as to why the actual election results don't show what you are claiming?

We are talking about Trump now. Does everyone who criticizes Trump have to defend everything Obama did?

 

[haymarket]

The most dangerous development is not that Trump lies. IT is that the man is so detached from reality and delusional that he cannot tell the difference between his own alternate reality and the self imposed beliefs that support it and actual truth.

That would be termed mental illness.

 

[Manc Skipper]

The basis for his conviction of mass illegal votes is based on a conversation he believes he had with his "friend" Bernhard Langer, who says: "Donald who?"

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/25/...ard-langer-voting-fraud.html?mtrref=t.co&_r=0

 

[Conservative]

We are talking about Trump now. Does everyone who criticizes Trump have to defend everything Obama did?

The choice was trump or four more years of Obama through Hillary so yes, Obama is still a topic of discussion as was his legacy and poor economic results which is why so many illegals had the incentive to vote for Hillary and many probably did

 

[Conservative]

The most dangerous development is not that Trump lies. IT is that the man is so detached from reality and delusional that he cannot tell the difference between his own alternate reality and the self imposed beliefs that support it and actual truth.

That would be termed mental illness.

That is stooping very low for even you. Never in my life have I seen so many, you included, so attached to an ideology that you would do anything to destroy this country just to maintain it. Actual results don't matter and you will do whatever it takes to destroy anyone who gets in the way of whatever that perverted agenda that you are supporting

 

[haymarket]

That is stooping very low for even you. Never in my life have I seen so many, you included, so attached to an ideology that you would do anything to destroy this country just to maintain it. Actual results don't matter and you will do whatever it takes to destroy anyone who gets in the way of whatever that perverted agenda that you are supporting

The man either is the worst liar ever or knows not the difference and that makes it a mental problem.

 

[Conservative]

The man either is the worst liar ever or knows not the difference and that makes it a mental problem.

You have no idea whether or not this is a lie but that doesn't stop you from attacking the President and calling him a mental case with mental problems. That is a sign of desperation from someone who has a bigger problem, you , in calling him illegitimate

 

[haymarket]

You have no idea whether or not this is a lie but that doesn't stop you from attacking the President and calling him a mental case with mental problems. That is a sign of desperation from someone who has a bigger problem, you , in calling him illegitimate

Its a sign of a patriot concerned with the welfare of our great nation.

I would advise the nation to read this

A Psychologist Analyzes Donald Trump’s Personality - The Atlantic

It is a lengthy and excellent article filled with top rate analysis. In the end, the author concludes that Trump is pretty much a character being played by a hopeless narcissist and undeniable authoritarian who will do anything to believe he has won.

Who, really, is Donald Trump? What’s behind the actor’s mask? I can discern little more than narcissistic motivations and a complementary personal narrative about winning at any cost. It is as if Trump has invested so much of himself in developing and refining his socially dominant role that he has nothing left over to create a meaningful story for his life, or for the nation. It is always Donald Trump playing Donald Trump, fighting to win, but never knowing why.

He is easily the most mentally damaged president in our history and is the greatest single threat to our nation and our people since the bad old days of the cold war with nuclear war so close at hand from the Soviets.

 

[haymarket]

You have no idea whether or not this is a lie but that doesn't stop you from attacking the President and calling him a mental case with mental problems. That is a sign of desperation from someone who has a bigger problem, you , in calling him illegitimate

Read this and be very afraid for our nation and our people.

Is Donald Trump Mentally Ill? 3 Professors Of Psychiatry Ask President Obama To Conduct 'A Full Medical And Neuropsychiatric Evaluation' | The Huffington Post

President Barack Obama
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20500

November 29, 2016

Dear President Obama,

We are writing to express our grave concern regarding the mental stability of our President-Elect. Professional standards do not permit us to venture a diagnosis for a public figure whom we have not evaluated personally. Nevertheless, his widely reported symptoms of mental instability — including grandiosity, impulsivity, hypersensitivity to slights or criticism, and an apparent inability to distinguish between fantasy and reality — lead us to question his fitness for the immense responsibilities of the office. We strongly recommend that, in preparation for assuming these responsibilities, he receive a full medical and neuropsychiatric evaluation by an impartial team of investigators.

Sincerely,

Judith Herman, M.D.
Professor of Psychiatry
Harvard Medical School

Nanette Gartrell, M.D.
Associate Clinical Professor of Psychiatry
University of California, San Francisco (1988-2011)
Assistant Professor of Psychiatry, Harvard Medical School (1983-87)

Dee Mosbacher, M.D., Ph.D.
Assistant Clinical Professor
Department of Community Health Systems
University of California, San Francisco (2005-2013)

and more about the specifics of the mental disorder Trump suffers from

The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual (DSM - 5, Cluster B) for “Narcissistic Personality Disorder” by The American Psychiatric Association (APA)

Here, according to The APA, are the 9 criteria for “Narcissistic Personality Disorder”. If an individual has 5 out of the 9 they have a confirmed diagnosis of this illness. Many individuals have “traits” of narcissism but only about 1% of the population has clinical NPD.

“Summary : A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:

1. Has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)
2. Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love.
3. Believe that he or she is “special” and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with other special or high-status people (or institutions)
4. Requires excessive admiration
5. Has a sense of entitlement
6. Is interpersonally exploitative
7. Lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others
8. Is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her.
9. Shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes.”

What does it mean if someone does have NPD?

If someone does have “Narcissistic Personality Disorder” they can, indeed, wake up, see a Tweet or a news report from a foreign leader criticizing him, mocking him, calling him “weak” or threatening his ego in any way and order some kind of impulsive, vindictive, punishing, immediate response that could include an unhinged order to attack that foreign leader or foreign country with military force, even including the authorization of nuclear weapons.

It is extremely likely that there would be some kind of impulsive, angry diplomatic response.

Because someone afflicted with this incurable and progressive “Narcissistic Personality Disorder” simply can’t help himself.

This could be fatal for our nation to have such a mentally damaged person as our president with so much power at his fingertips and an inability to control his darker impulses.

 

[upsideguy]

That's because the congress was DEM then, not today.

We've already been told by the GOP house they won't be investigating trump .

That is because the GOP has yet to learn to hate Trump, but they will get there. When his approval ratings fall to the 20's, he will become toxic to the GOP.

 

[Conservative]

Its a sign of a patriot concerned with the welfare of our great nation.

I would advise the nation to read this

A Psychologist Analyzes Donald Trump’s Personality - The Atlantic

It is a lengthy and excellent article filled with top rate analysis. In the end, the author concludes that Trump is pretty much a character being played by a hopeless narcissist and undeniable authoritarian who will do anything to believe he has won.



He is easily the most mentally damaged president in our history and is the greatest single threat to our nation and our people since the bad old days of the cold war with nuclear war so close at hand from the Soviets.

After 8 years of Obama what would you know about Patriotism? Trump has done more good in a week in reviving the American economy that Obama did in 8 years and the Obama legacy supports that statement. So now it is mental issues as you have moved from being illegitimate. You really need to seek help

 

[haymarket]

After 8 years of Obama what would you know about Patriotism? Trump has done more good in a week in reviving the American economy that Obama did in 8 years and the Obama legacy supports that statement. So now it is mental issues as you have moved from being illegitimate. You really need to seek help

Did that little rubber hammer strike your knee again forcing you to invoke the name of Obama?

 

[Conservative]

Read this and be very afraid for our nation and our people.

Is Donald Trump Mentally Ill? 3 Professors Of Psychiatry Ask President Obama To Conduct 'A Full Medical And Neuropsychiatric Evaluation' | The Huffington Post



and more about the specifics of the mental disorder Trump suffers from This could be fatal for our nation to have such a mentally damaged person as our president with so much power at his fingertips and an inability to control his darker impulses.

You obviously have a serious problem, not Trump but you. Please seek help.

Our country is at a crossroads created by 8 years of liberalism, 8 years of political correctness, 8 years of following and never leading, 8 years of massive debt, stagnant GDP growth, lies, distortions and social engineering.

The time as come for change so if that is what you mean by fatal, so be it. we cannot continue the course set by Obama and the left.

You want a PC world that doesn't recognize PC.

You judge people by your own standards when people around the world don't have the same standards as you.

You want to scare the hell out of people by demonizing the President of the United States.

If this is the end, so be it, would rather go down under the mantle of world power, world leadership, America first rather than leading from behind and that socialist utopia you want. It is time for America First regardless of left leaning people like you. The world isn't what you want it to be and Trump is about to change that

 

[Conservative]

Did that little rubber hammer strike your knee again forcing you to invoke the name of Obama?

8 years of Obama gave us Trump, something you fail to recognize

I did have knee replacement surgery 3 weeks ago today which is why I am spending so much time here in this forum kicking the crap out of the left and will continue to do that for the next few weeks

 

[HenryChinaski]

Read this and be very afraid for our nation and our people.

Is Donald Trump Mentally Ill? 3 Professors Of Psychiatry Ask President Obama To Conduct 'A Full Medical And Neuropsychiatric Evaluation' | The Huffington Post



and more about the specifics of the mental disorder Trump suffers from



This could be fatal for our nation to have such a mentally damaged person as our president with so much power at his fingertips and an inability to control his darker impulses.

His supporters wouldn't care if it was proven that he was a schizophrenic psychopath. The only thing that they care about is that he's "pissin' off them libtards" I will say though that the guy runs his mouth like he's got turrets syndrome.

 

[Conservative]

His supporters wouldn't care if it was proven that he was a schizophrenic psychopath. The only thing that they care about is that he's "pissin' off them libtards" I will say though that the guy runs his mouth like he's got turrets syndrome.

Being a liberal is a bitch today, isn't it?

 

[Conservative]

That liberal utopia and legacy created by Obama the last 8 years. Must be tough being a liberal and watch as 8 years of wasted Political Correctness and transformation of this country into that European socialist economy goes down the tubes. Better seek some help because time has come for the left to actually go to work

Obama’s legacy is a devastated Democratic Party | New York Post

 

[haymarket]

You obviously have a serious problem, not Trump but you. Please seek help.

Our country is at a crossroads created by 8 years of liberalism, 8 years of political correctness, 8 years of following and never leading, 8 years of massive debt, stagnant GDP growth, lies, distortions and social engineering.

The time as come for change so if that is what you mean by fatal, so be it. we cannot continue the course set by Obama and the left.

You want a PC world that doesn't recognize PC.

You judge people by your own standards when people around the world don't have the same standards as you.

You want to scare the hell out of people by demonizing the President of the United States.

If this is the end, so be it, would rather go down under the mantle of world power, world leadership, America first rather than leading from behind and that socialist utopia you want. It is time for America First regardless of left leaning people like you. The world isn't what you want it to be and Trump is about to change that

I was discussing a national political figure and provided verifiable evidence for my position.

Why are you attacking me ?