Trump Promises Brand New Air Traffic System

[beancounter]

A concept of a plan, no doubt.

 

[uptower]

Yeah he'll roll it out right after his health plan...

 

[Peter]

Boeing?

They need to go back to paper planes…..

The problem with Boeing is they decided that building quality products was secondary to profits.
They used to build the best planes available and was why the 747 was so successful but now they have been completely overshadowed by Airbus who still put quality first.
Even the US military have had massive problems with Boeing aircraft and you'd think they would at least build those things to a high standard.

From top dog in passenger aircraft to being outsold 2 to 1 by Airbus tells the whole story.

Boeing need to get back to listening to the engineers they have.

 

[Rexedgar]

The problem with Boeing is they decided that building quality products was secondary to profits.
They used to build the best planes available and was why the 747 was so successful but now they have been completely overshadowed by Airbus who still put quality first.
Even the US military have had massive problems with Boeing aircraft and you'd think they would at least build those things to a high standard.

From top dog in passenger aircraft to being outsold 2 to 1 by Airbus tells the whole story.

Boeing need to get back to listening to the engineers they have.

Too many businesses think of shareholders first.

 

[Peter]

Too many businesses think of shareholders first.

The main difference is that most business don't have a side effect of aircraft crashing and killing hundreds at a time though if they forget about quality.

 

[Rexedgar]

The problem with Boeing is they decided that building quality products was secondary to profits.
They used to build the best planes available and was why the 747 was so successful but now they have been completely overshadowed by Airbus who still put quality first.
Even the US military have had massive problems with Boeing aircraft and you'd think they would at least build those things to a high standard.

From top dog in passenger aircraft to being outsold 2 to 1 by Airbus tells the whole story.

Boeing need to get back to listening to the engineers they have.

Boeing isn’t alone, it just when they **** up, people die. There has been a trend across business of paring costs and charging the same or more. Time and time again I return for a product that I am happy with, after a few years, and the quality is noticeably lower than it was three or five years ago.


Edit: i was replying as you were replying….

 

[ElChupacabra]

Anyone know what he is talking about here? I know we have some aviation types here. 39 different companies “piece together” our present system?

Wait, so Donnie Boy uses a system from another country? Way to go selling out American workers and companies!

 

[multivita-man]

Anyone know what he is talking about here? I know we have some aviation types here. 39 different companies “piece together” our present system?

Two weeks in and already three major crashes. Uh, no thanks. Stick to stiffing contractors and trying to beat sexual assault raps.

 

[Peter]

Boeing isn’t alone, it just when they **** up, people die. There has been a trend across business of paring costs and charging the same or more. Time and time again I return for a product that I am happy with, after a few years, and the quality is noticeably lower than it was three or five years ago.


Edit: i was replying as you were replying….

I remember Top Gear (before the guys left) did a JD power survey every year about car reliability.

Mercedes used to be number 1 but they got a new CEO who decided they were over engineering everything so slashed the development.
They ended up near the bottom of UK reliability surveys by insurers and their customers were really not happy.

Now ironically in the UK the cheaper cars are all near the top of reliability surveys and they all offer lifetime warranty.
The expensive brands don't.

 

[Peter]

Wait, so Donnie Boy uses a system from another country? Way to go selling out American workers and companies!

I don't think country of origin matters for something like air traffic control.

I'd much rather the UK have the best system available rather than purely a UK based system.

 

[ElChupacabra]

I don't think country of origin matters for something like air traffic control.

I'd much rather the UK have the best system available rather than purely a UK based system.

Sure, but I was being facetious and pointing to Trump's constant reference to supporting American companies/workers etc.

 

[Peter]

The UK is pretty decent at making radars since we invented them.

 

[Rexedgar]

I remember Top Gear (before the guys left) did a JD power survey every year about car reliability.

Mercedes used to be number 1 but they got a new CEO who decided they were over engineering everything so slashed the development.
They ended up near the bottom of UK reliability surveys by insurers and their customers were really not happy.

Now ironically in the UK the cheaper cars are all near the top of reliability surveys and they all offer lifetime warranty.
The expensive brands don't.

I remember when Hyundai and KIA entered the US market, they were shitboxes. Now they are near the top in sales and reliability. I think one has a large stake in the other.

 

[Risky Thicket]

"Privately I use a system from another country"

America first, eh?

From a Musk owned company, bet on it.

 

[Bodecea]

Anyone know what he is talking about here? I know we have some aviation types here. 39 different companies “piece together” our present system?

Dementia.

 

[Lycanthrope]

Air traffic safety - now 100% dwarf free!

 

[poweRob]

Anyone know what he is talking about here? I know we have some aviation types here. 39 different companies “piece together” our present system?

Look how that "brand new" air traffic system is coming along...

Imagine that. trump administration bumping contracts that had already been assigned just to another company so that a Musk company can have the contract instead. So unshocking and unsurprising. ****ing grifters. Come line up and defend this move maga. It's what you all do. React and defend ad nauseam.

Starlink poised to take over $2.4 billion contract to overhaul air traffic control communication​

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The contract had already been awarded to Verizon, but now a SpaceX-led team within the FAA is reportedly recommending it go to Starlink.​

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While Elon Musk hacks away at the federal bureaucracy in the name of “efficiency,” his company Starlink appears poised to steal a multibillion-dollar government contract from Verizon. The Federal Aviation Administration is on the cusp of canceling a $2.4 billion contract to overhaul the communication system for the nation’s air traffic control system and handing it to the SpaceX subsidiary instead, The Washington Post reports, citing two unnamed sources briefed on the plans. The news was also confirmed by Bloomberg and The Associated Press.​