Trump or DeSantis, for POTUS 2024?

[gbg3]

I think she needs a bit more experience in the executive branch for she run for president. A 2 term governorship would do that.

Just how I feel.

 

[trouble13]

About Kari, not yet IMO, but someday for sure. She is running a remarkable campaign and she doesn't shy away from a single event or question.

I need to get to know her more but everything I have seen from her has been impressive. I have my eye on her.

 

[Ethel2]

Trump!

He has lost two elections already. It would be even harder for him to win this time.

Great answer!

 

[Ethel2]

Do the choices have to be authoritarians? How about Larry Hogan?

He would be a good choice. So would Charlie Baker.

 

[post]

Roger Stone said it would be "ingratitude and treachery" by Ron DeSantis to run against Trump: https://www.yahoo.com/news/roger-stone-cautioned-ron-desantis-033903537.html

Who do you prefer?

 

[Hari Seldon]

Hopefully the RNC will have Trump and DeSantis together on the debate stage. We can then make an informed choice of who would be the best to lead the country.

Either candidate would be a tremendous improvement over the current POTUS, who is embarrassingly incompetent.

But if Trump wants my vote he will need to take another Cognitive Assessment Test.

Man, woman, person, camera, TV.

 

[forn]

That might be true, Trump did help DeSantis win but then I'm not sure who is the best candidate if we want to win and be effective in governing. At first glance I'd say DeSantis will be less controversial and less devisive. However, I know that's not really true because if DeSantis is the candidate the democrats will attack him in the same way they did Trump. Made up BS like Trump Russia Collusion and every other lie that they can muster, including being a Trump clone. So I don't know that is matters.

I agree with you largely here, except I think DeSantis is more savvy, smoother, and more professional than Trump. He's less likely to put his foot in his mouth. The left and their media will, of course, hate him and everything he stands for, and lie about him as you say. But I don't think DeSantis is as self destructive as Trump. Trump sets the table for the media to feast on him too often.

I also don't like that Trump will be as old as Biden was in 2020, we've seen why that is bad. I also don't like the way Trump reacted to losing the election. Not that I think he committed crimes inciting violence or whatnot, I just think that makes him the Hillary Clinton/Stacey Abrams of the Republican party. I lost a lot of respect for him there. And last but not least, I don't think Trump could win, he's been too damaged by all the attacks on him. I tend to think the Republicans will nominate him anyway, but I'd like to think that they're smart enough to move on from him.

 

[Mycroft]

Roger Stone said it would be "ingratitude and treachery" by Ron DeSantis to run against Trump: https://www.yahoo.com/news/roger-stone-cautioned-ron-desantis-033903537.html

Who do you prefer?

sigh...

This again?

Read my lips: If Trump runs...DeSantis won't.

 

[jaypatriot]

Why isn’t there a “none of the above” option?

Because the Democrats have no one and DeSantis will be the overwhelming choice in 2024.

 

[slick]

If Desantis runs (as I think he should), Trump will have a fit and attack him viciously. I don't think Trump should run, but I believe he will.

I agree. I hope DeSantis & Trump have a sit down & DeSantis offers Trump a high cabinet position that Trump would relish
like head of Dept of Energy or Head of Homeland Security. In either of those posts Trump would be an asset by halting
immigration & finishing the wall or by bringing the US back to energy independence.

Trump is toxic, he only would have a 50% chance to win in 2024. DeSantis would win in a landslide. At Predictit:
DeSantis is ahead of Trump.

 

[reflechissez]

About Kari, not yet IMO, but someday for sure. She is running a remarkable campaign and she doesn't shy away from a single event or question.

Are those your only criteria?

 

[reflechissez]

I need to get to know her more but everything I have seen from her has been impressive. I have my eye on her.

You people are too easily impressed.

 

[brianpatrick]

Kari Lake and Lauren Boebert. If you’re gonna go crazy why not go all in? Trump and DeSantis are damaged goods. Most Republicans can’t be in power very long. Most politicians are corrupt but Republicans couple it with bad policy that rots early and then blames the guy who has to come in and clean up the mess.

 

[trouble13]

You people are too easily impressed.

You people are entirely too impressed with yourselves.

 

[Callen]

I hope it's Trump. DeSantis could actually win. As for Keri Lake, she would get chewed up and spit out just like Palin. That woman only appeals to election denying Trumpers and there are not enough of them to get a President elected. My hope, which is really a pipe dream, is that the GOP voters go with a more moderate, mature, and balanced candidate and lose all this hateful rhetoric and anger.

 

[Tangmo]

I don't like either of them, but if I bother to vote, I will vote Republican.

You're not the only one who would reinstall a national Idiocracy instead of a government.

While government remains a necessary evil to some people, an Idiocracy is the kind of necessary evil the armband right needs and loves to have.

Necessarily.

 

[Tangmo]

If Desantis runs (as I think he should), Trump will have a fit and attack him viciously. I don't think Trump should run, but I believe he will.

Trump is gonna tag DeSantis as gay.

DeSantis got all dressed up for the once in a century historic catastrophe.




This anyway is what happens when you let Lindsay Graham pick out your storm boots.

 

[devildavid]

Hmmmm! Regular turd or gold plated one? That’s a tough one!

 

[Tangmo]

You people are entirely too impressed with yourselves.

That's because pipe smoking liberal pacifist professors in tweeds are my role model.

I'm not the only one either.

Of course.

 

[Tangmo]

Yup that is her biggest draw back at the moment. She will have only served 2 years as governor if she ran in 2024.

But...

Maybe limited exposure in government isn't a negative. Maybe we need people in charge who are not career politicians. People who get in, do their service, and LEAVE

In the Trump model of course.

Trouble is Trump the election denier in chief hasn't ever left. Trump is still president to a lot of you people some of whom expect him back in the Oval for Christmas.

Nor will he ever leave if he has his way, which he definitely will not get.

 

[Tangmo]

I think she needs a bit more experience in the executive branch for she run for president. A 2 term governorship would do that.

Nixon was a two term vice president.

 

[Tangmo]

Agreed. Limited exposure / corruption by the political elites can be an asset.

She's a female Tucker Carlson.

 

[aociswundumho]

You're not the only one who would reinstall a national Idiocracy instead of a government.

While government remains a necessary evil to some people, an Idiocracy is the kind of necessary evil the armband right needs and loves to have.

Necessarily.

There is no such thing as a necessary evil. Calling something that is evil "necessary" is absurd on its face.

 

[Tangmo]

There is no such thing as a necessary evil. Calling something that is evil "necessary" is absurd on its face.

That's a view and logic from the Libertarian Right where you guys are in a high and distant orbit up there. It's a rhetorical term anyway rather than a literal one.

Your doctrine is not in the Constitution nor is it in any of the founding documents, to include the Declaration of Independence and is scarcely found in The Federalist Papers as anything but the view of few that has no impact on the rhetorical premise that government is a necessary evil. Government anyway subsidized and enabled the early railroads and the Army prevailed in the Indian Wars and so on and so on before then and since.

FDR and the New Deal demonstrated conclusively government can be a force of good in respect of the general welfare and the common good. The Libertarian Right argues the opposite about the New Deal, same as do the Republicans-Conservatives who have shred the Constitution that shall be restored, revised, extended by new concepts consistent with the Founders better and wiser side.

 

[Tender Branson]

Someone sane.

That doesn't apply to these 2 fascist democracy- and human rights destroyers.