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I don't expect that Trump would be impeached at all. If Trump were a D instead of an R and did the same thing, then of course the Republicans would be clamoring for impeachment and would be upset at him. But as it is, they'll defend them and the Dems won't really have enough power to push impeachment. So we'll have the investigations, and they may turn up some things, but I put zero stock into Trump being impeached. Hopefully defeated in 2020, since I doubt the Republic could come out of a 2-term Trump without some significant damage.
Yes, both sides have become rabid, using nonstop investigations as a political tool. However, even if Trump were to serve two terms, I don't agree there would be significant damage. In fact, we would be better off than if we had had Hillary for two terms, or even one term. I breathed a HUGE sigh of relief when she lost. Other than the stock market, the country has been running really well so far under Trump. Any significant damage will come from both sides putting their jobs aside to do nothing but investigate the other side.
This is an article from USA Today (not Fox News) and this person is also a CNN contributor (not Fox News):
https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-may-cheat-pay-092257738.html
The Obama whataboutism in the op-ed puts Trump's hush payoffs to two women into proper perspective, doesn't it?
The left now knows they can't get Trump on collusion or obstruction charges, the original reason Mueller was summoned to investigate, so "they've" decided to whine about the above for the next two years.
It never ends. :lol:
The Obama whataboutism in the op-ed puts Trump's hush payoffs to two women into proper perspective, doesn't it?
The left now knows they can't get Trump on collusion or obstruction charges, the original reason Mueller was summoned to investigate, so "they've" decided to whine about the above for the next two years.
It never ends. :lol:
I don't expect that Trump would be impeached at all. If Trump were a D instead of an R and did the same thing, then of course the Republicans would be clamoring for impeachment and would be upset at him. But as it is, they'll defend them and the Dems won't really have enough power to push impeachment. So we'll have the investigations, and they may turn up some things, but I put zero stock into Trump being impeached. Hopefully defeated in 2020, since I doubt the Republic could come out of a 2-term Trump without some significant damage.
This is an article from USA Today (not Fox News) and this person is also a CNN contributor (not Fox News):
https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-may-cheat-pay-092257738.html
Trump will very likely be indicted. He may even face jail time. But before that can happen he must either be impeached or serve out his term. The question of whether or not he will be impeached is up in the air. From a liberal politics standpoint, impeaching Trump would merely be icing on the cake. Donald Trump has already done enormous damage to the Republican party. Impeachment would be a just, but ultimately unnecessary, conclusion to his presidency. A conservative argument for impeachment would be to avoid giving the democrats the ammo that would result from blocking impeachment and allowing him to serve out his term only to have the extent of his crimes publicized afterward and have him end up in prison anyway once his term is up. This would be yet another stain on the judgement and trustworthiness of the Republican party.
At this point it's less a question of whether or not he did anything wrong than it is a question of when he will face justice: Before or after his term is over.
The notion that he won't be impeached for defrauding the American public and criminal campaign violations is only because Republicans wouldn't go along with impeachment; not because those aren't impeachable offenses.
That isn't going to happen. As soon as he's out of office, this will all go away.
How did he defraud the public?
Well at least you're acknowledging criminal campaign violations.
Since you can't answer the question, you put words into my mouth. :lamo
You didn't challenge the criminal campaign violations, just the defrauding part. I think we all took note of that.
That's already been debunked. The "defrauding the public" claim doesn't even exist yet? :lamo
Is Clinton under investigation?
Show us where "the left" claim that, instead of just posting dishonest comments as usual. Looks like dishonest comments are all you can post.
Although leading Democrats say they are willing to wait to read Mueller's final report, the emphasis has turned away from collusion to alleged "campaign finance violations."House Democrats said the most explosive and potentially damaging revelation from last week is that Trump was, for the first time, directly implicated in a crime by prosecutors, who allege that the president directed the payments in violation of campaign finance laws to boost his presidential campaign.
Rep. Ted Deutch (D-Fla.) called the allegations “shocking” and the most “serious criminal issue facing a president since Watergate.”
“The president is now under enormous pressure, because as he looks at this, he knows that he’s in great potential legal jeopardy and very serious political jeopardy,” said Deutch, a member of the Judiciary Committee, which will have the power to start impeachment proceedings.
“It’s much more difficult to wave this off and say there is nothing there,” added Rep. Dan Kildee (D-Mich.). “There’s something there. We just need to see exactly what it is.”
Do you hear anything about collusion or obstruction of justice in the article linked below?
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/420913-house-dems-talking-more-about-impeaching-trump
Exactly... nothing about it at all, but you will read about this:
House Democrats said the most explosive and potentially damaging revelation from last week is that Trump was, for the first time, directly implicated in a crime by prosecutors, who allege that the president directed the payments in violation of campaign finance laws to boost his presidential campaign.
Rep. Ted Deutch (D-Fla.) called the allegations “shocking” and the most “serious criminal issue facing a president since Watergate.”
“The president is now under enormous pressure, because as he looks at this, he knows that he’s in great potential legal jeopardy and very serious political jeopardy,” said Deutch, a member of the Judiciary Committee, which will have the power to start impeachment proceedings.
“It’s much more difficult to wave this off and say there is nothing there,” added Rep. Dan Kildee (D-Mich.). “There’s something there. We just need to see exactly what it is.”
Although leading Democrats say they are willing to wait to read Mueller's final report, the emphasis has turned away from collusion to alleged "campaign finance violations."
You might want to actually read the original article in the thread. Nothing about collusion or obstruction of justice, is there?
But you're entitled to disagree with my opinion, I can assure you that is grounded in reality.
But you personally accept the crimes Trump already committed. One thing I've learned here is that you don't have to convince a trump supporter all the way in order to have still gained something.
who cares what an "article" mentioned, the Mueller report is not out and we don't know. Still waiting for you to show how "The Left" claim what you are claiming. Since when is "the hill" the ENTIRE left you mention?
Why do you always debate like this?
Put words in the mouths of others?
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