Trump Lawyers Meet With DOJ as Decision Nears on Whether to Bring Charges in Mar-A-Lago Case

[Linuxcooldude]

Read post # 209.....the classification or declassification of the documents IS NOT relevant to the statute the DOJ used to recover them......totally irrelevant

The PRA is irrelivent to the conversation about classification.

 

[mike2810]

The PRA still a strawman and deflection in relation to my post about classification.

How is it a deflection?
Explain to me how a classified document that is declassified because the property of the ex President?

 

[Linuxcooldude]

That’s what you are arguing.
Per you - Presidents have the authority to do whatever they want and not have to follow any protocols for declassification for any document, no matter how sensitive.

NOW you wanna claim semantics and knee jerk reactions

I'm stating relivent facts while you rely on semantics. The President has the ultimate authority on classification given to him by the Constitution and supported by the relvent Supreme Court cases.

 

[Rexedgar]

Why hasn’t anyone taken a current picture of Jack Smith yet? All I have seen is dated shots from his time in the international court

I’m wondering if he’s an apparition……..

Ask and ye shall receive…..

 

[Linuxcooldude]

How is it a deflection?
Explain to me how a classified document that is declassified because the property of the ex President?

You mean by his Presidential power to declassify documents?!?

 

[mike2810]

You mean by his Presidential power to declassify documents?!?

sigh.
How does declassifying a document make it a personal property?

 

[Callen]

The PRA is irrelivent to the conversation about classification.

More importantly the PRA is irrelevant to the potential charges

 

[Linuxcooldude]

sigh.
How does declassifying a document make it a personal property?

It doesn't, which is why your shift to PRA is a strawman. At the time I was discussing classification. ( which, BTW, I didn't bring up, but by another liberal poster )

 

[mike2810]

More importantly the PRA is irrelevant to the potential charges

Other than the PRA defines Presidential Records and Personal Records.
Violating the PRA can lead to other CFR code violations which has a criminal element included.

I agree that the PRA by itself has not criminal section.

 

[Linuxcooldude]

More importantly the PRA is irrelevant to the potential charges

I'm not the one to talk too about that. Perhaps @mike2810.?

 

[mike2810]

It doesn't, which is why your shift to PRA is a strawman. At the time I was discussing classification. ( which, BTW, I didn't bring up, but by another liberal poster )

EXCEPT it defines what a leaving President can take and what must be turned over.

As I have said. Violating the PRA can lead to other CFR code violations. Those codes are what Trump may be charged with.

So where does it say in any CFR code, EO or any document that a leaving President can take any document they want?

 

[Tangmo]

And vice versa.

Trump said to "terminate" the Constitution.

You are hogtied to address this.

 

[Tangmo]

Me too. I’m skeptical. Unless they get the go ahead from McConnell, the donor class, and the ghost of Reagan.. skeptical as hell they will actually do it.

I’m expecting delays upon delays and then a Garland press conference where he announces that “We will let the people decide..”

Garland is a clerk. Garland has spent his entire professional career doing chapter and verse. He's a green eyeshades guy who has no regard of public opinion and he rather prides himself in his elitist disassociation from the common folk and the things they don't understand -- and simply accept.

If anything Garland knows Trump got hammered in the states in the '22 midterms and that a poll last month found 61% don't want Trump to be president again. If the pollings might have any affect on Garland, it is that it's consistent with polls over the past couple of years. There are DoJ senior lawyers who will make these points to Garland regardless.

In the technicalities of the applicable laws Garland knows Barr is with him. Barr has indeed said Garland will act without regard of public opinion. I'm not saying Biden would say to not prosecute, but if Biden did that the Clerk would resign of course. He'd quit rather than comply or ignore him.

The long time and upright Clerk Garland has chapter and verse on his side and he knows it. And there's nothing more self righteous than a righteous man.

 

[Linuxcooldude]

Trump said to "terminate" the Constitution.

You are hogtied to address this.

You know the main difference between the two? Everything I've said actually happened with the corrupt FBI/DOJ/Democrats. Trump talks a good smack when he has too.

 

[SCrider]

sigh.
How does declassifying a document make it a personal property?

Dude is living in Trump's fantasy land. His arguments are lame and have no merit, but he must defend his god.

 

[Linuxcooldude]

Dude is living in Trump's fantasy land. His arguments are lame and have no merit, but he must defend his god.

Oh, you care to get into the ring? What arguments are lame and have no merit or are you going to duck and run for cover?

 

[US&THEM]

I'm stating relivent facts while you rely on semantics. The President has the ultimate authority on classification given to him by the Constitution and supported by the relvent Supreme Court cases.

Case closed! But wait…….Hunter……….you’re welcome

 

[US&THEM]

Oh, you care to get into the ring? What arguments are lame and have no merit or are you going to duck and run for cover?

Why are Trump’s lawyers meeting with the DOJ, according to you Trump is dead right.

 

[Linuxcooldude]

Why are Trump’s lawyers meeting with the DOJ, according to you Trump is dead right.

That's not answering my question that you quoted, but a deflection to a strawman. What arguments that I've presented are lame and without merit?

 

[US&THEM]

That's not answering my question that you quoted, but a deflection to a strawman. What arguments that I've presented are lame and without merit?

According to you Trump has NOTHING to fear, why bother defending himself? So strange

 

[WorldWatcher]

That's not answering my question that you quoted, but a deflection to a strawman. What arguments that I've presented are lame and without merit?

I don't know, let's find out.

Who owns Presidential Records one a President leaves office? Possible answers are:

1. The ex-President,
2. The United States Government, or
3. Others (please explain "other" in the space provided.

WW

 

[US&THEM]

You know the main difference between the two? Everything I've said actually happened with the corrupt FBI/DOJ/Democrats. Trump talks a good smack when he has too.

Trump is on a losing streak, like no other. Congrats

 

[Linuxcooldude]

I don't know, let's find out.

Who owns Presidential Records one a President leaves office? Possible answers are:

1. The ex-President,
2. The United States Government, or
3. Others (please explain "other" in the space provided.

WW

What arguments that I've presented are lame and without merit? You do know what a strawman is?

 

[WorldWatcher]

What arguments that I've presented are lame and without merit? You do know what a strawman is?

I hadn't paid attention to you, so I'm trying to get a baseline.

So who owns Presidential Records once a President leaves office? Possible answers are:

1. The ex-President,
2. The United States Government, or
3. Others (please explain "other" in the space provided.

WW

 

[Linuxcooldude]

I hadn't paid attention to you, so I'm trying to get a baseline.

So who owns Presidential Records once a President leaves office? Possible answers are:

1. The ex-President,
2. The United States Government, or
3. Others (please explain "other" in the space provided.

WW

I've already have a baseline, you have a lot of catching up to do.