Trump Launches War On Iran

[ASHES]

How did Israel do all the heavy lifting if we literally flew the planes with the bombs that did all of the work?
Least they could do is pay us to do their dirty work but we probably paid them to do it based on how much they take advantage of us.

B2s can't fly freely over Iran without serious SEAD, which Israel has worked on tirelessly for many months.

 

[ScrambledEggs]

Which is why it was a no brainer. Israel did all the heavy lifting. All they needed the US for was the MOP, and we provided that.



Reckless? You guys are wailing over concrete actions, long overdue, taken to stop the world's foremost sponsor of terror from acquiring nuclear weapons. Trump warned them in his first term that he would never allow them to get a nuke. He warned them again this term. He wanted diplomacy, and Iran wouldn't do it. Then, Israel opened the door for destroying the capability Iran refuses to relinquish, and we sensibly took it.

This is the very opposite of recklessness.

They were really close to getting a nuke and couldn't be negotiated with diplomatically because... Trump told me so!

 

[primaryKey]

Simpleton analysis - and it's all the war hawks can spread on msm. These were not the only two outcomes.

So Iran makes a nuclear weapon and becomes peaceful all the sudden, or someone else stops them? Like who?

Iran making a nuclear weapon isn't a foregone conclusion. Like I said, this isn't a binary world we live in with two possible outcomes. We bomb them or they develop nuclear weapons... This is unsophisticated analysis that assumes there are no other options and off-ramps further down the road.

Now it's altogether too bad these actions are the most likely to encourage countries to independently develop nukes of their own.

Why?

That is the only way to guarantee we Americans won't bomb their shit.

I, obviously, already answered this in the very post you're responding to.

 

[Atreus21]

How did Israel do all the heavy lifting if we literally flew the planes with the bombs that did all of the work?

By establishing air superiority.

Least they could do is pay us to do their dirty work but we probably paid them to do it based on how much they take advantage of us.

Shrug. They've certainly seemed willing to do their own dirty work so far. They only needed us for the MOP.

 

[Aristaeus]

Wa Wa wa.....

Letting Iran get a nuke was always against US best interest. These strategic Strikes are to ensure they don't.
Hopefully this will make it easier for Iran to surrender sooner.

Iran has been 'weeks away' from getting nukes for the past 20 years.

 

[phoenix2020]

B2s can't fly freely over Iran without serious SEAD, which Israel has worked on tirelessly for many months.

What is SEAD?

 

[Yes_Minister]

It's embarrassing the Dems were on the losing side of this decision. If Hapless Harris was president, this never would have happened. Israel would not be in a position to attack Iran and the sites with all of the uranium enrichment centrifuges would not be destroyed.
Maybe you could go back in time to vote multiple times so Harris could win in key states.
If you can't change the past then you need to live with the results of Trump as the only president having the balls to destroy Iran's uranium enrichment facilities.

"Knowing these realities, America must not ignore the threat gathering against us. Facing clear evidence of peril, we cannot wait for the final proof -- the smoking gun -- that could come in the form of a mushroom cloud."

George W. Bush.

 

[Atreus21]

They were really close to getting a nuke and couldn't be negotiated with diplomatically because... Trump told me so!

You're saying they were willing to give up their nuclear ambitions?

 

[ScrambledEggs]

It's embarrassing the Dems were on the losing side of this decision. If Hapless Harris was president, this never would have happened. Israel would not be in a position to attack Iran and the sites with all of the uranium enrichment centrifuges would not be destroyed.
Maybe you could go back in time to vote multiple times so Harris could win in key states.
If you can't change the past then you need to live with the results of Trump as the only president having the balls to destroy Iran's uranium enrichment facilities.

Enjoy your war, neo-con!

 

[ajn678]

B2s can't fly freely over Iran without serious SEAD, which Israel has worked on tirelessly for many months.

No they didn't. They used the weapons we gave them and bombed Iran for a week and a half.
This is like bragging that you won the Special Olympics as an able bodied individual.

 

[ASHES]

What is SEAD?

Suppression of enemy air defenses.

 

[reflechissez]

Not quite as boring as the screeds of @phoenix2020 though.

Pshaw! His posts are way more interesting/clever/funny/informed than anything you've ever posted.

 

[ASHES]

No they didn't. They used the weapons we gave them and bombed Iran for a week and a half.
This is like bragging that you won the Special Olympics as an able bodied individual.

No. That's a serious misunderstanding of what Israel did, and how long it took them to achieve it.

 

[Atreus21]

"Knowing these realities, America must not ignore the threat gathering against us. Facing clear evidence of peril, we cannot wait for the final proof -- the smoking gun -- that could come in the form of a mushroom cloud."

George W. Bush.

Let me know when Trump calls for boots on the ground, and this comparison will be apt.

 

[OpportunityCost]

LOL when?

WW1 WW2 Korean War Vietnam War Serbian/Bosnian War

 

[ScrambledEggs]

You're saying they were willing to give up their nuclear ambitions?

I'm saying I believe whatever the deep state and Trump tells me.

 

[ajn678]

By establishing air superiority.



Shrug. They've certainly seemed willing to do their own dirty work so far. They only needed us for the MOP.

Yes they only needed us to actually get the job done. Israel basically went up to their bully and sucker punched them and then ran and hid behind their big brother until their big brother punched the bully back.

 

[Bucky]

Typical nonsensical post from Bucky

So you think he made this up? Is that why Iran is saying all Americans in the region are targets now, because hes just that persuasive?

The US and Israel have not only protected their nations but also paved the way for a ME where peace, not proliferation, reigns supreme.

Iran now faces a stark choice: embrace diplomacy or face further reckoning. The path to stability is lit, and the world stands united behind this historic act of courage!

 

[ScrambledEggs]

Let me know when Trump calls for boots on the ground, and this comparison will be apt.

We already have boots on the ground in Iraq & Saudi Arabia. They are now at very very high risk.

 

[ScrambledEggs]

The US and Israel have not only protected their nations but also paved the way for a ME where peace, not proliferation, reigns supreme.

Iran now faces a stark choice: embrace diplomacy or face further reckoning. The path to stability is lit, and the world stands united behind this historic act of courage!

This has such huge "Dear Leader" energy lmao

 

[ajn678]

No. That's a serious misunderstanding of what Israel did, and how long it took them to achieve it.

It isn't, but I can understand why you would want to pretend otherwise.

 

[Atreus21]

Yes they only needed us to actually get the job done. Israel basically went up to their bully and sucker punched them and then ran and hid behind their big brother until their big brother punched the bully bacany.

Lol. You should get a grip.

 

[ASHES]

Yes they only needed us to actually get the job done. Israel basically went up to their bully and sucker punched them and then ran and hid behind their big brother until their big brother punched the bully back.

And it was the first punch ever thrown.

All is fair in love and war. "Sucker punch" is loser speak for "got caught not looking."

 

[phoenix2020]

Suppression of enemy air defenses.

Thanks. Are you sure about your earlier claim? Is there evidence that Iranian air defenses, pre-Israel attack, posted a serious threat to the B-2? (I don’t know either way and am asking.)

 

[Atreus21]

We already have boots on the ground in Iraq & Saudi Arabia. They are now at very very high risk.

You know what I mean. I mean invading Iran, as we did Iraq under George W.

If Trump does that, I will forever say I was wrong to ever support him.