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Trump Launches War On Iran

Atreus21 said:
This was a no brainer. If Israel had air superiority, we had a rare window of opportunity to knock out Iran's nuclear ambitions. Glad Trump had the guts to do it.
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You can't knock out nuclear ambitions by bombing a foreign country. You can only reinforce them and those of many others. Trump doesn't have guts, either. Iranians had no shot at shooting down B2 bombers, given the Israelis took all the risk in achieving air superiority.

Your whole post is wrong except for the conclusion that this was a no brainer. No brains were used to evaluate the actual recklessness of this action.
 
EnchantedMuggle said:
If only Taco worried about things like that.



Yeah, so wimpy how they gave a shit whether American civilians would pay the cost for that, right?

Taco doesn’t have any balls. He’s a frail old man who can’t even properly pronounce words anymore. He knows he isn’t long for this world in the condition he’s in so he really doesn’t give a shit what happens to anyone else afterward, he’s just going for one blast of glory knowing he won’t have to live for decades with the consequences.

He’s basically Putin with an uglier accent.
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I guess the GOP's JD Vance won't win your vote for President come 2028.
That's what matters now for Trump.
 
anatta said:
the only way to solve Iran is to get rid of it's regime.
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What if Iran feels this way about us?

The globe doesn’t exactly love us anymore.

The worst danger to the U.S. isn’t Iran or even nukes in general. It’s Taco himself.

anatta said:
It's especially dangerous as it's goal is the appearance of the Hidden Iman (apocalyptic)
If it doesn't topple, it won't be anywhere near the threat it was when Israel started to go after it's proxies

Twelver Shiism is the largest of the Shia Islam sects and is mainly practiced in Iran. They adhere to the teachings of the first 12 imams whom they believe were directly descended from the Prophet Muhammad. The Twelfth Imam, Muhammad ibn al-Hassan, is a
messianic figure who is also called the ''Hidden Imam.
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primaryKey said:
Simpleton analysis - and it's all the war hawks can spread on msm. These were not the only two outcomes.
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So Iran makes a nuclear weapon and becomes peaceful all the sudden, or someone else stops them? Like who?
primaryKey said:
Now it's altogether too bad these actions are the most likely to encourage countries to independently develop nukes of their own.
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Why?
primaryKey said:
That is the only way to guarantee we Americans won't bomb their shit.
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If anyone hasn't watched the speech by Trump tonight, please do so. It is such a terrible speech with the 3 idiots nodding along beside him looking like complete and absolute morons.
Its embarrassing that he is our president.
 
EnchantedMuggle said:
What if Iran feels this way about us?

The globe doesn’t exactly love us anymore.

The worst danger to the U.S. isn’t Iran or even nukes in general. It’s Taco himself.
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Are you talking about the entire globe?
Or just the part that keeps buying our weapons, planes, semiconductors, and other costly goods.?
 
EnchantedMuggle said:
Um how TF do you think the rest of the world thinks about us in this regard?
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I'm not sure why you included me in your question. A mere five or six hours after dropping the bombs, I have little to no idea what the reaction will be among world leaders nor the thoughts of the various factions within their countries.
 
jaypatriot said:
Talk to ClaraD about her hypothetical threat to America.
She started the conversation.
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But you're the one cheering. hoo rah. Millions of actual people - that we could actually kill, mind you, on the whim of a President who thinks this is a reality TV show... you thought and typed it, without making requisite connections back to your own country's actions that we're discussing in this very thread.
 
primaryKey said:
Simpleton analysis - and it's all the war hawks can spread on msm. These were not the only two outcomes.

Now it's altogether too bad these actions are the most likely to encourage countries to independently develop nukes of their own. That is the only way to guarantee we Americans won't bomb their shit.
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I agree. I think there is a high probability that the nuclear club will have expanded by the end of Trump’s term. Between what happened to Ukraine and what happened to Iran, on top of several decades’ history of nuclear weapons states running roughshod over those without, and the world powerless to stop them, the message is crystal clear. If you want to deter an invasion of your homeland, you need nuclear weapons.

I think South Korea and Taiwan are the top candidates. Both have populations with a strong positive interest in arming. It would be trivial for both to develop weapons. Both have a motive—threat from China + no confidence that Donald will have their back since he always TACOs when it comes to China.

I think one or both of them will arm up.
 
We won the war before it even started.

Building a nuclear site in the desert was a big mistake!

I absolutely hate war, but this move establishes the beginning of the stages of real peace in the Middle East.
 
primaryKey said:
You can't knock out nuclear ambitions by bombing a foreign country. You can only reinforce them and those of many others. Trump doesn't have guts, either. Iranians had no shot at shooting down B2 bombers, given the Israelis took all the risk in achieving air superiority.
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Which is why it was a no brainer. Israel did all the heavy lifting. All they needed the US for was the MOP, and we provided that.

primaryKey said:
Your whole post is wrong except for the conclusion that this was a no brainer. No brains were used to evaluate the actual recklessness of this action.
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Reckless? You guys are wailing over concrete actions, long overdue, taken to stop the world's foremost sponsor of terror from acquiring nuclear weapons. Trump warned them in his first term that he would never allow them to get a nuke. He warned them again this term. He wanted diplomacy, and Iran wouldn't do it. Then, Israel opened the door for destroying the capability Iran refuses to relinquish, and we sensibly took it.

This is the very opposite of recklessness.
 
Bucky said:
We won the war before it even started.

Building a nuclear site in the desert was a big mistake!

I absolutely hate war, but this move establishes the beginning of the stages of real peace in the Middle East.
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Typical nonsensical post from Bucky
 
ajn678 said:
Given the fact Trump lies about the color of the sky its safe to say we should not believe anything he said.
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So you think he made this up? Is that why Iran is saying all Americans in the region are targets now, because hes just that persuasive?
 
Atreus21 said:
Which is why it was a no brainer. Israel did all the heavy lifting. All they needed the US for was the MOP, and we provided that.



Reckless? You guys are wailing over concrete actions, long overdue, taken to stop the world's foremost sponsor of terror from acquiring nuclear weapons. Trump warned them in his first term that he would never allow them to get a nuke. He warned them again this term. He wanted diplomacy, and Iran wouldn't do it. Then, Israel opened the door for destroying the capability Iran refuses to relinquish, and we sensibly took it.

This is the very opposite of recklessness.
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How did Israel do all the heavy lifting if we literally flew the planes with the bombs that did all of the work?
Least they could do is pay us to do their dirty work but we probably paid them to do it based on how much they take advantage of us.
 
ajn678 said:
If anyone hasn't watched the speech by Trump tonight, please do so. It is such a terrible speech with the 3 idiots nodding along beside him looking like complete and absolute morons.
Its embarrassing that he is our president.
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It's embarrassing the Dems were on the losing side of this decision. If Hapless Harris was president, this never would have happened. Israel would not be in a position to attack Iran and the sites with all of the uranium enrichment centrifuges would not be destroyed.
Maybe you could go back in time to vote multiple times so Harris could win in key states.
If you can't change the past then you need to live with the results of Trump as the only president having the balls to destroy Iran's uranium enrichment facilities.
 
primaryKey said:
You can't knock out nuclear ambitions by bombing a foreign country. You can only reinforce them and those of many others. Trump doesn't have guts, either. Iranians had no shot at shooting down B2 bombers, given the Israelis took all the risk in achieving air superiority.

Your whole post is wrong except for the conclusion that this was a no brainer. No brains were used to evaluate the actual recklessness of this action.
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You should be aware that Israel did more than bomb facilities. With these attacks they appear to be attempting to destroy the knowledge. Anybody with expertise in the fission cycle, whether involved in a weapons program or not, appears to have been targeted. Nuclear physicists, materials scientists…. civilians…. killed in their beds while they sleep as residential apartment complexes are targeted. Israel is trying hard to kill Iran’s science at least when it comes to nuclear physics.
 
Atreus21 said:
So you think he made this up? Is that why Iran is saying all Americans in the region are targets now, because hes just that persuasive?
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There is zero evidence that Iran's nuclear goals ended tonight. Until we have actual proof, yes I will continue to not believe anything that comes out of the rapist in chief's mouth.
 
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