Trump is just live tweeting Fox News Now (1 Viewer)

[Oborosen]

I think you must have missed all the court cases brought against Fox, by their own reporters, for FORCING them to lie.

https://projectcensored.org/11-the-media-can-legally-lie/

Heard it already, seen it already.

It was already found that FOX was trying to avoid defamation lawsuits in the wake of this story, which is why they were trying to get the story changed and they were not wrong. The news media has just as much right to tell a lie as it does to tell the truth, this is an already well known fact.

If CNN,MSNBC, the BBC and a plethora of others can do it at a whim. Then so will a company like fox and it will be our job to take them to task on it as much as it is the same for the others in that line.

I am still waiting for the proof of what Peters is claiming and if it comes out, I will have maybe less of a favorable image of Fox than I already have now.

How about this, you find me a transcript of what the Akre couple's original take on the (BGH) story and then get a transcript on what Fox wanted them to run. Then we can look it over together and see just what they were trying to change.

Sound like a sensible plan?

 

[ataraxia]

Heard it already, seen it already.

It was already found that FOX was trying to avoid defamation lawsuits in the wake of this story, which is why they were trying to get the story changed and they were not wrong. The news media has just as much right to tell a lie as it does to tell the truth, this is an already well known fact.

If CNN,MSNBC, the BBC and a plethora of others can do it at a whim. Then so will a company like fox and it will be our job to take them to task on it as much as it is the same for the others in that line.

I am still waiting for the proof of what Peters is claiming and if it comes out, I will have maybe less of a favorable image of Fox than I already have now.

How about this, you find me a transcript of what the Akre couple's original take on the (BGH) story and then get a transcript on what Fox wanted them to run. Then we can look it over together and see just what they were trying to change.

Sound like a sensible plan?

Not really, because that’s just a single case. FOXNews lies so much you have to do statistical analyses of it. When you do, turns out over half of the statements made there are outright lies. If you take out the only partially true statements too, you are left with only 22% of what they say being true.

Analysis: Fox News Only Tells The Truth 22% Of The Time

So you might as well be watching WWE wrestling or something to get your news: lots of entertainment to appeal to the masses to be sure, but not helpful if you really want to know what’s going on in the world. The only difference is, one claims to be nothing more than just entertainment. The other, people actually think they are hearing facts, and then acting on it in the real world- a recipe for disaster.

”A popular government without popular information, or the means of acquiring it, is but a prologue to a farce or a tragedy, or perhaps both.”
-James Madison

 

[Oborosen]

Not really, because that’s just a single case. FOXNews lies so much you have to do statistical analyses of it. When you do, turns out over half of the statements made there are outright lies. If you take out the only partially true statements too, you are left with only 22% of what they say being true.

Analysis: Fox News Only Tells The Truth 22% Of The Time

So you might as well be watching WWE wrestling or something to get your news: lots of entertainment to appeal to the masses to be sure, but not helpful if you really want to know what’s going on in the world. The only difference is, one claims to be nothing more than just entertainment. The other, people actually think they are hearing facts, and then acting on it in the real world- a recipe for disaster.

Back to the same crap as before when it's said they are analyzing what is said. I am pretty tired of them chasing jokes and simple opinion and saying that it is a lie. Then again this was another hit piece and one could just as easily do the same with Rachel Maddow, or any of the other talking heads at CNN.

Too bad they don't offer all of their fact checking information or show where they stop chasing facsimile and actually chasing an actual truth at some point. This kind of thing was all too common during the election.

 

[ataraxia]

Back to the same crap as before when it's said they are analyzing what is said. I am pretty tired of them chasing jokes and simple opinion and saying that it is a lie. Then again this was another hit piece and one could just as easily do the same with Rachel Maddow, or any of the other talking heads at CNN.

Too bad they don't offer all of their fact checking information or show where they stop chasing facsimile and actually chasing an actual truth at some point. This kind of thing was all too common during the election.

Fact checking? We had six years straight of Trump telling us that we were not going to believe what his “top people” were finding on Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate. FOXNews could not report on it enough. Were you asking for any fact checking then? :lamo

 

[Logician Man]

To be more specific,Trump is tweeting what Hannity tells him to tweet,quite likely mentoring POTUSINO as to how close he can get to the red line without offending his base.( if that is even possible since they dwell in a mental state akin to the Stepford Wives.)

 

[Logician Man]

Fact checking? We had six years straight of Trump telling us that we were not going to believe what his “top people” were finding on Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate. FOXNews could not report on it enough. Were you asking for any fact checking then? :lamo

And BOOM goes the dynamite!!!

 

[Born Free]

Fact checking? We had six years straight of Trump telling us that we were not going to believe what his “top people” were finding on Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate. FOXNews could not report on it enough. Were you asking for any fact checking then? :lamo

Does this sound familiar, it should he was on TV 36 times saying the same thing over and over.

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...020E922344B16C78B23D020E922344B1&&FORM=VRDGAR

 

[markjs]

Does this sound familiar, it should he was on TV 36 times saying the same thing over and over.

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...020E922344B16C78B23D020E922344B1&&FORM=VRDGAR

What you couldn't get Hilary in there with your meaningless whataboutism because you have no argument? Fail even for whataboutism, YOU ALWAYS fit Obummer and Hillary together as part of the grander conspiracy, did you not learn this at indoctrination?:roll:

Me thinks the Conservative "think tanks" are failing at getting the propganda optimized these days, maybe it's TRump-a-dump's fault?:lamo

 

[Common Sense 1]

Along with the Russians, Fox News is probably one of the biggest threats to western democracy in the world today. No wonder they are watching each others' backs and coordinating their efforts so carefully these days.

The biggest threat is people who have no idea what they are posting. Example above^^^^^^^^!

July 2018 Ratings: Fox News Marks 25 Consecutive Months as Most-Watched Cable Network in Total Day

Fox News Channel continues to “be best” when it comes to drawing viewers across the 24-hour day. In July 2018, Fox News marked 25 consecutive months as the most-watched basic cable network in total day by averaging 1.4 million viewers in the daypart, per Nielsen live-plus-same-day data.

FNC was also the most-watched basic cable network for July in prime time, averaging 2.4 million total viewers from 8-11 p.m. That’s +14 percent vs. FNC’s prime time viewer delivery for July 2017. The network averaged 443,000 A25-54 viewers in prime time this past month, +9 percent from the July 2017 average.

https://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/july-2018-ratings-fox-news-marks-25-consecutive-months-as-most-watched-cable-network-in-total-day/372050

 

[ataraxia]

The biggest threat is people who have no idea what they are posting. Example above^^^^^^^^!

July 2018 Ratings: Fox News Marks 25 Consecutive Months as Most-Watched Cable Network in Total Day

Fox News Channel continues to “be best” when it comes to drawing viewers across the 24-hour day. In July 2018, Fox News marked 25 consecutive months as the most-watched basic cable network in total day by averaging 1.4 million viewers in the daypart, per Nielsen live-plus-same-day data.

FNC was also the most-watched basic cable network for July in prime time, averaging 2.4 million total viewers from 8-11 p.m. That’s +14 percent vs. FNC’s prime time viewer delivery for July 2017. The network averaged 443,000 A25-54 viewers in prime time this past month, +9 percent from the July 2017 average.

https://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/july-2018-ratings-fox-news-marks-25-consecutive-months-as-most-watched-cable-network-in-total-day/372050

I think you are confusing popularity with reliability and integrity. As an example, the grocery aisle rag The National Enquirer has higher sales than a magazine like the Economist. It does not mean that all of its made-up celebrity gossip and stories of UFO sightings are more accurate and it has this sterling journalistic integrity. It just means it’s more popular. In fact, when they tried to make a push to be more than just about celebrity gossip and UFO sightings, they began to lose sales. This is just a side effect of having a market system which rewards giving people what they want to hear, rather than the truth. Those are two very different things.

UFO sightings, Elvis sightings, Kim Kardashian having a love child with her UFO abductors, Obama having a secret Kenyan birth certificate, etc... are great stories that sell with a large ignorant public hungry for sensationalism. They will buy what they want to hear, not what is. The success of these self-proclaimed “news sources” does not mean they are better sources of actual facts. Just better sources of entertainment. You shouldn’t confuse the two.

 

[Oborosen]

Fact checking? We had six years straight of Trump telling us that we were not going to believe what his “top people” were finding on Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate. FOXNews could not report on it enough. Were you asking for any fact checking then? :lamo

Yes and throwing a red herring isn't going to help anything.

Are you going to sit there and tell me that you don't really believe anything reported by Fox news. When you should already know that the people do this exact same kind of crap against them, are just as capable of the same lying, vindictive, stupidity?

Are you really this willfully blind when it comes to topics like this?

 

[ataraxia]

Yes and throwing a red herring isn't going to help anything.

Are you going to sit there and tell me that you don't really believe anything reported by Fox news. When you should already know that the people do this exact same kind of crap against them, are just as capable of the same lying, vindictive, stupidity?

Are you really this willfully blind when it comes to topics like this?

Oh, no. Fox news reports some actual stories. So does the Natuonal Enquirer. Actually, I believe they were the first to report on the John Edwards scandal. Even a broken clock is accurate twice a day. Actually, the secret to selling well is to combine sensationalism and made-up stories with some elements of truth. It can’t be completely off-the-wall! You got to let people think they still have some contact with the real world!

All I am saying is, don’t think popularity has anything to do with journalistic integrity or accuracy. These are two very different things.

 

[Oborosen]

Oh, no. Fox news reports some actual stories. So does the Natuonal Enquirer. Actually, I believe they were the first to report on the John Edwards scandal. Even a broken clock is accurate twice a day. Actually, the secret to selling well is to combine sensationalism and made-up stories with some elements of truth. It can’t be completely off-the-wall! You got to let people think they still have some contact with the real world!

All I am saying is, don’t think popularity has anything to do with journalistic integrity or accuracy. These are two very different things.

Tell me where I said that they were the same thing..

 

[MSgt]

Back to the same crap as before when it's said they are analyzing what is said. I am pretty tired of them chasing jokes and simple opinion and saying that it is a lie. Then again this was another hit piece and one could just as easily do the same with Rachel Maddow, or any of the other talking heads at CNN.

Too bad they don't offer all of their fact checking information or show where they stop chasing facsimile and actually chasing an actual truth at some point. This kind of thing was all too common during the election.

That is not the problem. The problem is that FOX News offers a fact of occurrence, then surrounds that fact with overwhelming bias opinion and innuendo during the delivery, in-which FOX viewers find comforting. This is exactly why FOX viewers were found to be the most ill-informed in multiple studies. Defending FOX by declaring that CNN or any other simply does "the same" is disingenuous since their viewers are far better informed. FOX News viewers can't tell the difference from the fact and the tirade of bias opinion that skews and perverts that fact in the delivery.

For example, a fact about Trump's latest buffoonery is often surrounded by something Obama or Clinton did years ago. Instead of Trump, the viewer gets entertained with stories of old (often exaggerated whataboutisms) that leaves them satisfied in their irrational hate for what wasn't even the issue at hand (thereby removing Trump). Of course, with all the other networks addressing the issue at hand, they get called "fake" news by Trump and his loyalists, who were just subliminally told to move on to important matters like Obama or Clinton. FOX News viewers can't see this, because they prefer not to see it. A self-brainwashing phenomenon is also a part of the studies.

This is why all of you people should just read global BBC articles on a phone. Its hard to have your opinions formed for you without that anchor or personality rolling his eyes, snickering, or shrugging as he delivers the news.

 

[Oborosen]

That is not the problem. The problem is that it offers a fact of occurrence, then surrounds that fact with overwhelming bias opinion and innuendo, in-which FOX viewers find comforting. This is exactly why FOX viewers were found to be the most ill-informed in multiple studies. Defending FOX by declaring that CNN or any other simply does "the same" is disingenuous since their viewers are far better informed.

FOX News viewers can't tell the difference from the fact and the tirade of bias opinion that skews and perverts that fact in the delivery. For example, a fact about Trump's latest buffoonery is often surrounded by something Obama or Clinton did years ago. Instead of Trump, the viewer gets entertained with stories of old (often exaggerated whataboutisms) that leaves them satisfied in their irrational hate for what wasn't even the issue at hand (removing Trump). Of course, with all the other networks addressing the issue at hand, they get called "fake" news by Trump and his loyalists (dedicated FOX News viewers). FOX News viewers can't see it, because they prefer not to see it. A self-brainwashing phenomenon is also a part of the studies.

This is why all of you people should just read global BBC articles on a phone. Its hard to have your opinions formed for you without that anchor or personality rolling his eyes, snickering, or shrugging as he delivers the news.

Citation ****ing needed.

 

[MSgt]

Citation ****ing needed.

Really?! Great Googily Moogily...

2012 Study: They found that someone who watched only Fox News would be expected to answer 1.04 domestic questions correctly compared to 1.22 for those who watched no news at all.

2015 Study: A new study by Bruce Bartlett, a conservative economist, top official in the H.W. Bush administration and domestic policy adviser to Ronald Reagan, concluded that Fox News viewers tend to be less informed and engage in "self-brainwashing."

2016 Study: William Poundstone has done similar surveys, both of current events and more general knowledge. In my research too, Fox News viewers scored the lowest of over 30 popular news sources (though Fox viewers did at least score better than those saying they didn't follow the news).

These are separate studies, spread out and conducted over years, and coming to the same conclusions. Even Ralph Peters, a very outspoken critic of Obama, finally grew tired of it all (for which I am thankful because I not only want him to get back to his writing, but I actually had a conversation about Peters' needing to get off of FOX News with General Mattis in my truck back in 2015).

"For years, I was glad to be associated with Fox. It was a legitimate conservative and libertarian outlet. And a necessary one,” Peters told Cooper. “But with the rise of Donald Trump, Fox did become a destructive propaganda machine. And I don’t do propaganda for anyone."

Peters went on to say he believes the network in general and "particularly the prime time hosts" are attacking "our constitutional order, the rule of law, the Justice Department, the FBI, Robert Mueller," and other intelligence agencies. "And they are doing it for ratings and profit," he added. "And they’re doing it knowingly, and, in my view, doing a great, grave disservice to our country."

Asked by Cooper if the prime-time hosts actually believe their own conspiracy theories about the "deep state," Peters singled out Trump’s most loyal Fox News servant. "I suspect Sean Hannity really believes it," he said. "The others are smarter, they know what they’re doing."

"I want to cry out and say, ‘How can you do this? How can you lie to our country? How can you knowingly attack our Constitution, the bedrock of our system of government, the bedrock of our country?’” Peters said. “And when you go after the Constitution, you best beware, because you are doing a phenomenal, indeed immeasurable damage."

Of course, then there is the way Trump Tweets exactly what he sees on FOX News:

- On January 26, Trump Tweeted "Ungrateful TRAITOR Chelsea Manning, who should never have been released from prison, is now calling President Obama a weak leader. Terrible!" Never mind that the evidence shows that Manning never called or even used the phrase "weak leader." But speaking of "weak leader," just 15 minutes prior to Trump Tweeting this, FOX News ran a snippet that declared "Ungrateful Traitor Chelsea Manning Slams Fmr Pres Obama." That's where the President of the United States got his inspiration for his unprofessional outburst. That's our nation's leader.

- Another example, Gregg Phillips reported in 2016 that "we have verified more than 3 million votes cast by non-citizens." Infowars, a site dedicated to conspiracy theories, picked it up and reported, "Three Million Votes in Presidential Election Cast by Illegal Aliens" and emphasized California. Right-wing sites all over the Internet and FOX News immediately clung to the fantasy and presented it as truth. Despite being quickly debunked, Trump immediately began to Tweet about millions of illegal votes and voter fraud. And when asked by major news outlets (even FOX) what proof Trump alone has apparently seen, the reply from him and his spokespeople was always simply, "he believes it." As of April of this year, Trump still maintains massive voter fraud despite the contrary. But the "alternate facts" run through Trump and his loyalists heads anyway because institutions like FOX News made an originating Tweet legitimate as a report.

The studies are accurate and we see it all the time.

 

[ataraxia]

Tell me where I said that they were the same thing..

I don’t know about you, but the topic was started by the poster “commonsense 1”, bragging about how Fox is the most popular cable news network when we were discussing their integrity and reliability, as if its popularity had something to do with the subject. Obviously many people think popularity must necessarily be a reflection of journalistic integrity and reliability in telling the actual truth. I was just suggesting that the popularity and reliability of a news source don’t necessarily have anything to do with each other.

 

[Oborosen]

I don’t know about you, but the topic was started by the poster “commonsense 1”, bragging about how Fox is the most popular cable news network when we were discussing their integrity and reliability, as if its popularity had something to do with the subject. Obviously many people think popularity must necessarily be a reflection of journalistic integrity and reliability in telling the actual truth. I was just suggesting that the popularity and reliability of a news source don’t necessarily have anything to do with each other.

To take it seriously, it's not a suggestion. You are 100% on the money with that one.

I am just tired of people taking some sort of stance against Fox News, for doing something that nearly every other media outlet does.

I only watch Tucker Carson and maybe I have the time to catch Waters World sometimes before work. From what I've seen they are pretty damn correct when they are covering their topics, even under speculation and the times I've seen them lie. I have also see that followed up by either a redaction, or an apology.

This extended game of shooting only one messenger, while the others equally deserve a bullet is frankly asinine.

 

[Oborosen]

Really?! Great Googily Moogily...



These are separate studies, spread out and conducted over years, and coming to the same conclusions. Even Ralph Peters, a very outspoken critic of Obama, finally grew tired of it all (for which I am thankful because I not only want him to get back to his writing, but I actually had a conversation about Peters' needing to get off of FOX News with General Mattis in my truck back in 2015).



Of course, then there is the way Trump Tweets exactly what he sees on FOX News:

- On January 26, Trump Tweeted "Ungrateful TRAITOR Chelsea Manning, who should never have been released from prison, is now calling President Obama a weak leader. Terrible!" Never mind that the evidence shows that Manning never called or even used the phrase "weak leader." But speaking of "weak leader," just 15 minutes prior to Trump Tweeting this, FOX News ran a snippet that declared "Ungrateful Traitor Chelsea Manning Slams Fmr Pres Obama." That's where the President of the United States got his inspiration for his unprofessional outburst. That's our nation's leader.

- Another example, Gregg Phillips reported in 2016 that "we have verified more than 3 million votes cast by non-citizens." Infowars, a site dedicated to conspiracy theories, picked it up and reported, "Three Million Votes in Presidential Election Cast by Illegal Aliens" and emphasized California. Right-wing sites all over the Internet and FOX News immediately clung to the fantasy and presented it as truth. Despite being quickly debunked, Trump immediately began to Tweet about millions of illegal votes and voter fraud. And when asked by major news outlets (even FOX) what proof Trump alone has apparently seen, the reply from him and his spokespeople was always simply, "he believes it." As of April of this year, Trump still maintains massive voter fraud despite the contrary. But the "alternate facts" run through Trump and his loyalists heads anyway because institutions like FOX News made an originating Tweet legitimate as a report.

The studies are accurate and we see it all the time.

Actually no, seeing as the internal information for these studies isn't shown, that is unless you are privy to that information. Then we can see exactly who they are polling for the information. Unless it's to be considered one of those same polling studies where only certain demographics are called and polled in the whole run?

Peters on the other hand is a laughable consequence of how one's own words can betray them.
His removal from Fox, while sad and someone somber. Is not without reason and the fact that he is just now being so vocal about something, as well amount of the "spurned lover" act he is putting on just as comical.

Crying that the rule of law and constitutional order are being attacked, yet not being able to prove it. Just marks him as one of the same idiots that gets laughed off the network, when they attempt to debate Carlson and keep eating their own foot.
Yet he could just stand idly by and watch other news networks delegitimize themselves in the same ways he's claiming about Fox, yet we don't hear a damn peep from him. He is fooling himself if he really believes what he is saying and he would not be the first person in a news room to be guilty of such.

Maybe when he finally finds consistency in this newfound virtue of his, the issue can be revisited.

"Why is it that children still bitch and moan about Trump's tweets....?"

More than Fox covered Chelsea Manning's release, so claiming that it is solely from them is being intellectually dishonest and yes, the 3 million number has been debunked. Yet it didn't come from Infowars, it actually came from an independent study that circulated Twitter for some time before the election finished. However the man running the numbers screwed up and made the margins far too large.

People can cry all they want about tweets, but it's still just as petty as it was before.

 

[MSgt]

Actually no, seeing as the internal information for these studies isn't shown, that is unless you are privy to that information. Then we can see exactly who they are polling for the information. Unless it's to be considered one of those same polling studies where only certain demographics are called and polled in the whole run?

Peters on the other hand is a laughable consequence of how one's own words can betray them.
His removal from Fox, while sad and someone somber. Is not without reason and the fact that he is just now being so vocal about something, as well amount of the "spurned lover" act he is putting on just as comical.

Crying that the rule of law and constitutional order are being attacked, yet not being able to prove it. Just marks him as one of the same idiots that gets laughed off the network, when they attempt to debate Carlson and keep eating their own foot.
Yet he could just stand idly by and watch other news networks delegitimize themselves in the same ways he's claiming about Fox, yet we don't hear a damn peep from him. He is fooling himself if he really believes what he is saying and he would not be the first person in a news room to be guilty of such.

Maybe when he finally finds consistency in this newfound virtue of his, the issue can be revisited.

"Why is it that children still bitch and moan about Trump's tweets....?"

More than Fox covered Chelsea Manning's release, so claiming that it is solely from them is being intellectually dishonest and yes, the 3 million number has been debunked. Yet it didn't come from Infowars, it actually came from an independent study that circulated Twitter for some time before the election finished. However the man running the numbers screwed up and made the margins far too large.

People can cry all they want about tweets, but it's still just as petty as it was before.

Unbelievable.

Notice that despite the plentiful evidence from multiple directions and the common sense involved, your reply to this is "nu-uh." This reminds me on how FOX doubted a birth certificate, when shown the birth certificate it ran stories about long forms, and then when shown the long form FOX News entertained stories of forgery for its viewers. You doubted the studies I mentioned and wanted links, I gave you links, and then you simply dismissed the studies. Directly from the mind of a FOX News viewer.

You missed the entire point about Trump's Tweets. The fact that he takes directly from a FOX News snippet and immediately mimics false headlines in his Tweets makes him every bit the "fake news" he rails about. It makes him easily manipulated. And I didn't state that Infowars was the source of the illegal voters. I stated that a simple Tweet from Greg Philips was the source in which Infowars picked up. As conservative internet sites and FOX News ran with it, so did Trump. Despite no evidence, Trump simply prefers the lie as truth. "Fake news" though, right?

And Peters was not removed. He quit. I'm sure Hannity had much to do with it, seeing that his voice is very dominant on FOX in shamelessly supporting and defending Trump at all costs. Even O'Reilly was cautious about blindly supporting Trump's garbage. In keeping with the studies and the common sense that the rest of the world spectators display, Peters sees the very real difference between the other networks and what FOX News does to its viewers. But I guess FOX has painted a different narrative about Peters' departure for its ill-informed viewers to cling to. All in the defense of FOX News.

So, we are right back to what the studies, those that you refuse to believe, have discovered, are we not?

 

[NeverTrump]

Unbelievable.

Notice that despite the plentiful evidence from multiple directions and the common sense involved, your reply to this is "nu-uh." This reminds me on how FOX doubted a birth certificate, when shown the birth certificate it ran stories about long forms, and then when shown the long form FOX News entertained stories of forgery for its viewers. You doubted the studies I mentioned and wanted links, I gave you links, and then you simply dismissed the studies. Directly from the mind of a FOX News viewer.

You missed the entire point about Trump's Tweets. The fact that he takes directly from a FOX News snippet and immediately mimics false headlines in his Tweets makes him every bit the "fake news" he rails about. It makes him easily manipulated. And I didn't state that Infowars was the source of the illegal voters. I stated that a simple Tweet from Greg Philips was the source in which Infowars picked up. As conservative internet sites and FOX News ran with it, so did Trump. Despite no evidence, Trump simply prefers the lie as truth. "Fake news" though, right?

And Peters was not removed. He quit. I'm sure Hannity had much to do with it, seeing that his voice is very dominant on FOX in shamelessly supporting and defending Trump at all costs. Even O'Reilly was cautious about blindly supporting Trump's garbage. In keeping with the studies and the common sense that the rest of the world spectators display, Peters sees the very real difference between the other networks and what FOX News does to its viewers. But I guess FOX has painted a different narrative about Peters' departure for its ill-informed viewers to cling to. All in the defense of FOX News.

So, we are right back to what the studies, those that you refuse to believe, have discovered, are we not?

I don't have to watch Fox News anymore, since I follow the President on Twitter. I know what they are talking already :mrgreen:

 

[MSgt]

I don't have to watch Fox News anymore, since I follow the President on Twitter. I know what they are talking already :mrgreen:

I know what you mean. Between Trump's Tweets, my parents, and the FOX News viewers here on this site, they are like a chorus of sameness. It's as if FOX provides the town hall meeting every day and they all break from it with marching orders. It's cult-like.

 

[NeverTrump]

I know what you mean. Between Trump's Tweets, my parents, and the FOX News viewers here on this site, they are like a chorus of sameness. It's as if FOX provides the town hall meeting every day and they all break from it with marching orders. It's cult-like.

I have a theory that's why they are so bad a reacting to breaking news. They are conditioned not to react to negative stories about their GEOTUS. Notice how only a handful of them respond in real time to breaking news, the rest show up long after the fact with out of context videos from random right wing blogs.

 

[MSgt]

I have a theory that's why they are so bad a reacting to breaking news. They are conditioned not to react to negative stories about their GEOTUS. Notice how only a handful of them respond in real time to breaking news, the rest show up long after the fact with out of context videos from random right wing blogs.

I haven't noticed that, but I have noticed that when something is spun into a Trump triumph they are quick to create a thread, pile on the exaggeration, and cling as if they are starving for something legitimate.

I just don't get it. We had plenty of black Americans criticize Obama for not being "black" enough after they voted. But when it comes to Trump, white Americans appear to be determined to follow Trump to the bottom of the ocean no matter what he says or does, even at their own cost. He's even shameless about what he does. I mean, after it was effectively argued, against denying conservatives, how the massive tax-cuts last Fall were really only about the wealthiest who received permanent cuts, it was reported just a few weeks ago that the Trump Administration is considering bypassing Congress in order to grant a $100 billion tax cut mainly to the wealthy!

- Add in an increased in government spending that will fall on the middle and lower class who's tax-cuts were not permanent.
- Add in the rolling back of Obama-era EOs so that energy tycoons can fully exploit the environment.
- Add in the $12 billion hand-out to farmers because the trade game that goes to inject short-term cash into the pockets of investors of certain industries.
- Add in the continual deregulation of banks, which preceded all major global economic crises since 1890, which feed directly to the wealthy.

It's just so damn obvious what his agenda has been this whole time. The guy likes playing President on the world stage and is using it to push a Reagan Trickle-Down agenda without the 1980s context. I even hear Trump is now entertaining "Star Wars!" I guess those who did not receive permanent cuts will pay for that too? Yet...down with the ship. All for Trump and foolish partisanship.

 

[NeverTrump]

I haven't noticed that, but I have noticed that when something is spun into a Trump triumph they are quick to create a thread, pile on the exaggeration, and cling as if they are starving for something legitimate.

I just don't get it. We had plenty of black Americans criticize Obama for not being "black" enough after they voted. But when it comes to Trump, white Americans appear to be determined to follow Trump to the bottom of the ocean no matter what he says or does, even at their own cost. He's even shameless about what he does. I mean, after it was effectively argued, against denying conservatives, how the massive tax-cuts last Fall were really only about the wealthiest who received permanent cuts, it was reported just a few weeks ago that the Trump Administration is considering bypassing Congress in order to grant a $100 billion tax cut mainly to the wealthy!

- Add in an increased in government spending that will fall on the middle and lower class who's tax-cuts were not permanent.
- Add in the rolling back of Obama-era EOs so that energy tycoons can fully exploit the environment.
- Add in the $12 billion hand-out to farmers because the trade game that goes to inject short-term cash into the pockets of investors of certain industries.
- Add in the continual deregulation of banks, which preceded all major global economic crises since 1890, which feed directly to the wealthy.

It's just so damn obvious what his agenda has been this whole time. The guy likes playing President on the world stage and is using it to push a Reagan Trickle-Down agenda without the 1980s context. I even hear Trump is now entertaining "Star Wars!" I guess those who did not receive permanent cuts will pay for that too? Yet...down with the ship. All for Trump and foolish partisanship.

I just don't see what he could do on a debate stage without his precious Fox News quotes. He live tweeted Fox again last night. He's flip flopped on every single promise he has ever made, and any moderator is going to have to butt in and say, "Sir, you are not telling the truth." They'll have to put up the actual numbers and correct him in real time. I guess he'll prevent the Democrat from speaking at least...