Trump Is Going To Meet With Michigan's Top Republican Officials On Friday To Try To Overturn Election Results

[Jredbaron96]

This is a different situation. And that is the only reason SCOTUS needs to help Trump.

How?

These are the same people responsible for Bush vs Gore, Citizens United vs FEC, and for invalidating key parts of the Voting Rights Act.

This is the same SCOTUS that just a few months ago said that Michigan forcing it's electors to follow the popular vote was legal and valid.

 

[Kerry Won Ohio]

How?



This is the same SCOTUS that just a few months ago said that Michigan forcing it's electors to follow the popular vote was legal and valid.

I explained to you how it's different -- a state (MI) choosing to ignore its own election laws, for whatever reasons. If these Republican officials state that they don't believe Biden won the popular vote in MI, then what? If they don't vote to certify the election results, then what? This could be a situation where SCOTUS intervenes.

This is not the same thing as the rogue/faithless elector court cases that you originally brought up. The popular vote winner was not in "doubt" in those cases.

 

[Jredbaron96]

I explained to you how it's different -- a state (MI) choosing to ignore its own election laws, for whatever reasons.

Then they're in violation of Michigan law. It's not a SCOTUS issue, it's a Michigan issue because that is explicitly against the law: "Under Michigan law, its legislature is barred from appointing its own electors who are different from the slate of electors of the presidential candidate who won the popular vote in the state. "

 

[Kerry Won Ohio]

Then they're in violation of Michigan law. It's not a SCOTUS issue, it's a Michigan issue because that is explicitly against the law: "Under Michigan law, its legislature is barred from appointing its own electors who are different from the slate of electors of the presidential candidate who won the popular vote in the state. "

Please see post #1. If there in no agreement on who won the popular vote, then it's up to the legislature to pick the electors. The MI legislature is controlled by Republicans.

That's why many of us are alarmed by this.

 

[Jredbaron96]

Please see post #1. If there in no agreement on who won the popular vote, then it's up to the legislature to pick the electors.

But there isn't actually a question; the results have all been certified by the counties.

 

[Kerry Won Ohio]

But there isn't actually a question; the results have all been certified by the counties.

The final state-wide certification still has to take place on Monday. If there is no agreement, then that's when the situation gets dangerous, as I explained in my previous post.

 

[Jredbaron96]

The final state-wide certification still has to take place on Monday. If there is no agreement, then that's when the situation gets dangerous, as I explained in my previous post.

Agreement over what? That all the counties have been certified? They have.

 

[Kerry Won Ohio]

Agreement over what? That all the counties have been certified? They have.

No. The two Republican state certifiers do not necessarily have to agree with all of the county certifiers.

 

[Jredbaron96]

No. The two Republican state certifiers do not necessarily have to agree with all of the county certifiers.

And? If you're worried about it going to the legislature, the Senate GOP leader has already said they're not pulling any shenanigans. They can't.

 

[Nickyjo]

Look on the bright side. Trump and his people outdid themselves yesterday. Just when we thought nothing could top his weird appearance claiming victory, Rudy and Powell give a performance for the ages: melting hair dye and paranoid ranting that Hugo Chavez stole the election. Unfriggingbelievable, but not unexpected.
Joe would need to put his suit on backwards and Kamala appear in a tutu to beat that.
As Trump said, we will miss him.

 

[Kerry Won Ohio]

And? If you're worried about it going to the legislature, the Senate GOP leader has already said they're not pulling any shenanigans. They can't.

Then why are the top two Republicans from MI meeting with Trump today? I hope you're not naïve enough to believe that they can't change their minds.

 

[Kerry Won Ohio]

Look on the bright side. Trump and his people outdid themselves yesterday. Just when we thought nothing could top his weird appearance claiming victory, Rudy and Powell give a performance for the ages: melting hair dye and paranoid ranting that Hugo Chavez stole the election. Unfriggingbelievable, but not unexpected.
Joe would need to put his suit on backwards and Kamala appear in a tutu to beat that.
As Trump said, we will miss him.

And that bizarre clown show press conference took place at RNC Headquarters. Not ****ing Four Seasons Landscaping.

That tells you how ****ed-up the entire Repug Party has become.

 

[Jredbaron96]

Then why are the top two Republicans from MI meeting with Trump today? I hope you're not naïve enough to believe that they can't change their minds.

Because they were asked by the President to come talk with them.

I don't disbelieve they can change their minds. I also don't believe Trump is a good negotiator.

 

[joko104]

Do any Trumpers on the board actually support this?

Republican legislatures would just declare Trump the winner without an election?! How would they be able to continue to call themselves Americans?

Where are all the principled Republican leaders? Why aren't they speaking out?

I do and don't. They should not pick electors for Trump. Rather, they should just refuse to certify the election - meaning no electors go to anyone. If Biden can't get to 270, then the USA constitution sends it to the House of Representatives to decide.

 

[Kerry Won Ohio]

I do and don't. They should not pick electors for Trump. Rather, they should just refuse to certify the election - meaning no electors go to anyone. If Biden can't get to 270, then the USA constitution sends it to the House of Representatives to decide.

Why should they refuse to certify the election? They have absolutely NO evidence of fraud. They need to show evidence of fraud or just shut the **** up.

Is this just the Repug equivalent of a temper tantrum? I expect nothing less from you all.

 

[Kerry Won Ohio]

Because they were asked by the President to come talk with them.

I don't disbelieve they can change their minds. I also don't believe Trump is a good negotiator.

Not a good decision on their part at all. They are opening themselves up to investigation by the Michigan AG for meddling in an election.

 

[Somerville]

Let us hope the idiocy and lies continue to trip up the Trumpians.

The Trump campaign’s much-hyped affidavit features a big, glaring error

In its wild news conference Thursday, President Trump’s legal team promoted a very simple-sounding theory that seems likely to be central to its voter fraud allegations: that many precincts in the key states had more votes than actual voters, particularly in Michigan and Wisconsin.

“Well, in Michigan and Wisconsin, we have over-votes in numerous precincts of 150 percent, 200 percent and 300 percent,” Giuliani said.
Sidney Powell alleged that it was “up to 350 percent in some places.”

Within hours, the evidence for that claim began to crumble.

It looks like the Trump attorneys don't know the difference between MI and MN. Just to add to the fun, the townships/districts named in the affidavit actually voted for Trump by large margins.

What if the Minnesota secretary of state just done a really good job at covering its tracks by rigging its voter registration numbers too?

Well, even in that case, this would be a pretty harebrained plot to throw the election to Biden. While Ramsland’s affidavit appears to suggest these were precincts in Wayne County, in fact they are from rural Minnesota — i.e., Trump country. In Benville, where actual votes were allegedly 350 percent of total voters, Trump won 75 percent of those 63 votes. Trump also won about 6 in 10 votes in Monticello and more than 6 in 10 in Albertville. The results in each precinct are also similar to 2016, suggesting this wasn’t a bunch of votes being added to Biden’s tallies.

 

[Nickyjo]

I do and don't. They should not pick electors for Trump. Rather, they should just refuse to certify the election - meaning no electors go to anyone. If Biden can't get to 270, then the USA constitution sends it to the House of Representatives to decide.

And why would they possibly want to do that?

 

[joko104]

And why would they possibly want to do that?

Because that is the constitutional solution.

 

[Nickyjo]

Because that is the constitutional solution.

My larger question - unless I am missing something - is why don't they simply accept the results of the election, the way the people of the state voted? Why bother to yield to Trump's ego?

 

[Kerry Won Ohio]

Let us hope the idiocy and lies continue to trip up the Trumpians.

The Trump campaign’s much-hyped affidavit features a big, glaring error



It looks like the Trump attorneys don't know the difference between MI and MN. Just to add to the fun, the townships/districts named in the affidavit actually voted for Trump by large margins.

LOL. Trump and Rudy can't even get their lies straight. ****ing idiots.

 

[Kerry Won Ohio]

Because that is the constitutional solution.

The constitutional solution that benefits Trump, of course.

Repugs are such cry baby ******s. Can't ever accept defeat.

 

[mike2810]

And? If you're worried about it going to the legislature, the Senate GOP leader has already said they're not pulling any shenanigans. They can't.

I posted this some time ago and got no answers Post 49?)
What is your take on this:
" Since Trump is running for a second term, would having this meeting be considered election interference by an elected official?

 

[MaryP]

Joe would need to put his suit on backwards and Kamala appear in a tutu to beat that.

LOLOUD

 

[Ikari]

Conversations underway about inviting Pennsylvania lawmakers to the White House

President-elect Joe Biden is moving ahead with transition plans as President Trump refuses to concede and pursues legal challenges to the election results. Follow here for the latest.

www.cnn.com

Two sources tell CNN there are discussions currently underway with the President about inviting Republican state legislators from Pennsylvania to the White House.

It's not clear if those invitations have been extended yet, but President Trump has expressed interest in doing so as he tries to insert himself into the vote certification process.

This would be another brazen step on the heels of Trump meeting with lawmakers from Michigan this afternoon. The deadline for counties in Pennsylvania to certify their totals is Monday.

Allegedly, he's trying to meet with PA legislators as well.