Biden has all the same powers as Trump had when he was our POTUSYou have failed in this debate
Think about the implications of declassifying things in a president's mind without record for the next commander in chief to know what has happened
You will have the current "foremost authority" of classification knowing less than an ordinary citizen who happened to be president in the past.
Apparently, you do not want to give Biden the power of foremost authority which comes with having the knowledge of the classification status of his government's documents.
I think you misread what I said. Drug dealers try to argue otherwise in court.
Is this your acknowledgement that they can tell us enough information about something that we know what we are talking about, while being capable of protecting national secrets? Are you ready to concede that or are you gonna keep promoting the farce of national security being at risk or the integrity of the investigation is.
The is one of the reasons people don't trust the FBI/DOJ
They are court ordered to release a soecific affidavit. They argue it can be released in it's entirety due to sensitive information. Which is a reasonable position that they routinely abuse.
They use that excuse to redact almost the entire document. They claim they redacted only the things that jeaporidize the investigation. They then turn around and leak what we are suppose to believe is redacted information to the press.
They control what we see and the context it's presented to us. No rational persons going to blindly trust that process.
I expect a clear answer and not a paragraph which reads as an attempt to avoid answering it.
Which is?There is a big gaping hole in what your saying.
Uh huh. Give me an example of where the President would need to declassify something "in real time."The president does not always have the luxury of having the time to go through the bureaucratic circles to get things done.
Such decision making has nothing to do with "executive privilege" which is limited to the privacy of certain communications and information by the President and certain other members of the executive branch. It has zero to do with declassification. Also, you seem to have missed the point entirely that the bureaucratic procedures are not in fact circles as you seem to think but rather safeguards of the integrity of the nation's secrets.He is given executive privilege that allows him to make decisions in real time.
And do tell how a deliberate process for declassification is "more perilous" to the nation than an ex-President storing TS/SCI documents in a room next to a pool at a golf resort. I'm all ears.What your suggesting is more perilous to the nation than what Trump is accused of.
Biden has all the same powers as Trump had when he was our POTUS
I did answer his question but I will give you the short answer.I will repeat his question"
I expect a clear answer and not a paragraph which reads as an attempt to avoid answering it.
I'm looking forward to the government to stop making accusations by innuendo and put forward an actual case against him. Once they do, you may get your wish.
Yup that's all and nothing about it jeaporidizes anything.So is that a none? You didn't learn shit, just the category of information alleged to have been recovered.
I did answer his question but I will give you the short answer.
I did not learn any secret from the DOJ sourced rumour. The fact that we didn't reinforces the point I was making in the post he was responding to.
Which is why Trump is guilty. Biden reclassified all of the documents the second he swore in, and he doesn’t have to make this claim in a court of law.Biden has all the same powers as Trump had when he was our POTUS
Me too. I‘m looking forward to the FBI dusting those folders, including the ones in Trump’s desk, for fingerprints and seeing who handled these classified documents.I'm looking forward to the government to stop making accusations by innuendo and put forward an actual case against him. Once they do, you may get your wish.
Again who had access to this documents write a list please names professions.MAL is a public access country club. That means:
- Members
- Members Guests
- Maintenance Staff
- Serving Staff
- FPOTUS own lawyers who had neither clearance or need to know
- Heck, they hire foreign workers at MAL
Mar-A-Lago Is Looking To Hire 91 Foreign Workers This Year
At the center of an investigation into the handling of classified information, the former president’s legal residence has a long tradition of hiring foreign workers to serve the billionaires, heads of state and other dignitaries who visit the club.www.forbes.com
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What? The ability of unauthorized people accessing these documents means the documents were not classified? No, it means the documents were stored in a way contrary to how secret documents are supposed to be stored.Again who had access to this documents write a list please names professions.
I would say the ability to access from people who don't have clearance hands down indicates that they're not classified. And they weren't used for espionage either so I think this whole thing about Mar alago is dead in the water.
But you guys can go on believing. This conversation is boring nobody here has anything new or insightful to say about it at all it's just to go get Trump we're going to get him he's the Boogeyman and that was funny in 2015 now it's just boring.
So not commenting on the subject anymore it's stupid you're getting nowhere and it will just have to wait and see what happens.
My money is on nothing.
He crosses his arms and blinks like Barbara Eden on "I Dream of Jeannie."
Again who had access to this documents write a list please names professions.
I would say the ability to access from people who don't have clearance hands down indicates that they're not classified. And they weren't used for espionage either so I think this whole thing about Mar alago is dead in the water.
But you guys can go on believing. This conversation is boring nobody here has anything new or insightful to say about it at all it's just to go get Trump we're going to get him he's the Boogeyman and that was funny in 2015 now it's just boring.
So not commenting on the subject anymore it's stupid you're getting nowhere and it will just have to wait and see what happens.
My money is on nothing.
You can say that again.The idea that a president can declassify documents in his head is patently absurd.
You could easily find out if what it is you truly cared to. But we all know all you're doing looking is providing more lip service for your Orange God.I'm curious...exactly what IS the process a President must go through to declassify stuff?
Again whatever you have to believe there's no point in arguing about it what's going to happen will happen you have no insight.What? The ability of unauthorized people accessing these documents means the documents were not classified? No, it means the documents were stored in a way contrary to how secret documents are supposed to be stored.
You might as well argue that if someone was able to take someone else’s money it means that money wasn’t stolen, but was a gift.
Both are indications that laws were broken.
There's no point in talking about this anymore you have no insight you don't know anything more than anyone else.He gave you enough information to establish the claim that the location was not secure.
The ability to access from people who don't have clearance came as a result of Trump's decision to store the documents in an unsafe place.
The conversation obviously was not boring to you because you spend a lot of time and effort to defend Trump's actions.
Not commenting on the subject is the best response of people who cannot find reasonable arguments to defend their points.
You raise an interesting point that I have been wondering about.
According to Trump WH staff packed those boxes. If there was documents in there that should not of been, did anyone inform Trump that what he was taking would be a problem? Maybe they did, I don't know. It's a part of the story that's missing from the public record.
Careful what you wish for. That would mean the government filing an indictment against Mr. Trump. Which I'm sure his lawyers know is going to be forthcoming. Which it would appear why it is they doing their litigious best to delay itI'm looking forward to the government to stop making accusations by innuendo and put forward an actual case against him. Once they do, you may get your wish.
All you are doing is chasing your own tail with this senseless line of argument. The 11th Circuit ruling on the DOJ appeal stated quite clearly that this argument that Trump as President may have declassified these documents is really nothing more just a "red herring". The 11th said even if it were true that Trump declassified the documents, and there is no evidence that it is true, that would still do nothing to change the content of those documents. If they were national defense information before, they would still be national defense information afterwards. And the 11th also it didn't understand how Mr. Trump would have any legal standing whatsoever to claim propriety over them, much less what the reason would be for why he wants to retain them.There is a big gaping hole in what your saying. The president does not always have the luxury of having the time to go through the bureaucratic circles to get things done. He is given executive privilege that allows him to make decisions in real time. What your suggesting is more perilous to the nation than what Trump is accused of.
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