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Trump has never faced Bias like this

Fortunately, the opinion of the "very" conservative and the "very" liberal have proven to matter very little, since those opinions are largely based on nothing and have everything to do with designed partisan ignorance and false blanketed ideology.

The last bad President was Jimmy Carter. The worst President in modern history has clearly been Donald Trump.

Patience my Brother. I don't think it's fair to judge a POTUS till after their term.

THX for your service.
 
Patience my Brother. I don't think it's fair to judge a POTUS till after their term.

THX for your service.

I think this depends. Historically speaking, distance does matter. But when faced with an Andrew Johnson, a Nixon, a Carter, and now a Trump, the contemporary issues can present quite clearly.
 
I think this depends. Historically speaking, distance does matter. But when faced with an Andrew Johnson, a Nixon, a Carter, and now a Trump, the contemporary issues can present quite clearly.
If you can't put Obama on that list, you have your blinders on. He did many things similar to the others on your list and worse. [weaken the military, the economy, militarized government depts. against political foes, increased racial division, doubled the debt, etc.]
 
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If you can't put Obama on that list, you have your blinders on. He did many thing similar to the others on your list and worse.

Or I don't buy into the exaggeration of Obama that conservatives have clung to in order to define their irrational hatreds of Obama. Most of the criticism towards Obama is the same sort of junk that had conservatives raging about Hillary and Benghazi. It's just nonsense.
 
Fortunately, the opinion of the "very" conservative and the "very" liberal have proven to matter very little, since those opinions are largely based on nothing and have everything to do with designed partisan ignorance and false blanketed ideology.

The last bad President was Jimmy Carter. The worst President in modern history has clearly been Donald Trump.

Worse than Bush II who gave us two never-ending wars and a financial meltdown. Really, based on facts or emotion.
 
Worse than Bush II who gave us two never-ending wars and a financial meltdown. Really, based on facts or emotion.

Bush II stumbled into what needed to happen. It's how his Administration did the deed that hurt us.

The mess throughout the region was always in the cards. Eighteen Muslim nations didn't demonstrate in the streets for socioeconomic justice and democracy in 2010-2012 simply...cuz. And in the meantime, the history proves that Islamist militancy was created under dictators who denied them a political voice. Religious extremism cannot find comfort within a society where the population has choice.
 
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1) Read headline "Trump has never faced media bias like this"
2) Clicks link
3) Sees Obama's face
4) Laughs out loud
 
Opinions are like noses - everyone has one and all of them do not smell the same thing when put to the test.

Yeah, the issue is that some noses are better at smelling bull**** and other noses have nothing to offer but their belief that other noses can smell too.

;)
 
Worse than Bush II who gave us two never-ending wars and a financial meltdown. Really, based on facts or emotion.

Bush II was one of the worst ever. Yes, his middle-East woes were problematic, but it was much more than that. He wasn't in control of his ship. By the time he left office, there was no confidence whatsoever, in his Administration. Look no further than the heavily depressed stock market for verification. Then look at a banking/housing crisis, a bankrupt American auto industry, and CEO corruption gone amuck.

Trump is taking us down some horrendous paths. Despite holding all 3 Legislative branches, they are getting very little done. The deficit will very soon exceed $1 Trillion, and they are totally unable to balance the budget.
 
Sorry, swing and a miss. The Senate report on the IRS scandal outlines her political outlook and her lack of concern for conservative political groups.

Certainly debateable. She was appointed to the IRS by Bush II. She was promoted to Director of IRS Exempt Organizations Division by Bush II.

Now I'd be willing to say this was a bipartisan problem, which is often the case, with Administrative holdovers. After all, Obama could have appointed somebody else. But from other conversations with you; you're so ALT Right, that you would never accept that outlook.
 
Bush II was one of the worst ever. Yes, his middle-East woes were problematic, but it was much more than that. He wasn't in control of his ship. By the time he left office, there was no confidence whatsoever, in his Administration. Look no further than the heavily depressed stock market for verification. Then look at a banking/housing crisis, a bankrupt American auto industry, and CEO corruption gone amuck.

Trump is taking us down some horrendous paths. Despite holding all 3 Legislative branches, they are getting very little done. The deficit will very soon exceed $1 Trillion, and they are totally unable to balance the budget.

Agree that the deficit needs to be brought under control. Trade has been a problem for 2-3 decades,not sure tariffs are the answer. Pretty sure there is no easy answer though and trade wars are NOT easy to win.

A party with 51 seats in the senate has a majority not control as so many mistakenly say.
 
Certainly debateable. She was appointed to the IRS by Bush II. She was promoted to Director of IRS Exempt Organizations Division by Bush II.

Now I'd be willing to say this was a bipartisan problem, which is often the case, with Administrative holdovers. After all, Obama could have appointed somebody else. But from other conversations with you; you're so ALT Right, that you would never accept that outlook.
**** that alt right bull****. You know I'm not so you go play you damn smear games with someone else.


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Sorry, swing and a miss. The Senate report on the IRS scandal outlines her political outlook and her lack of concern for conservative political groups.

Bull****. Liberal groups were also audited.
 
1) Read headline "Trump has never faced media bias like this"
2) Clicks link
3) Sees Obama's face
4) Laughs out loud

Hmmm. OK. So you click the link, and you see Obama's face? Obama's face should disappear, and the video should play. You must be easily amused.
 
You guy's really think Trump is a bigger liar than Obama? Isn't it more likely that Obama was more clever with how he lied, which fooled the not so educated people who voted for him but not those who have looked a little deeper?

Breaking News.....All politicians are liars!
 
You guy's really think Trump is a bigger liar than Obama? Isn't it more likely that Obama was more clever with how he lied, which fooled the not so educated people who voted for him but not those who have looked a little deeper?

Breaking News.....All politicians are liars!

Obama never lied. He may have been unable to uphold some pledges. That is vastly different than the Trump daily lies. I started a poll on this forum. It was very simple - "Does Trump Lie?" Over 95% said yes. Go ahead and start a poll about Obama. Let's see how that works out.
 
Obama never lied. He may have been unable to uphold some pledges. That is vastly different than the Trump daily lies. I started a poll on this forum. It was very simple - "Does Trump Lie?" Over 95% said yes. Go ahead and start a poll about Obama. Let's see how that works out.
FFS if you want your doctor, you can keep your doctor.

Straight up lie when he said it and he knew it was a lie.

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Obama's largest lie was connected to the Iranian Deal. In the Iranian Uranium deal Obama sent Iran $150 Billion in assets plus $1.8 Billion in cash. The question is who deals in large blocks of cash and currencies? The answer is the black market, such as Chicago style mafia. This huge cash transfer was part of a money laundering scam of tax payer money, designed to be a golden parachute for the Obamas, the Clintons and the Kerrys, among other globalist world leaders. Other countries pitched in currencies.

Trump's blocking of the deal caused the laundered cash to go into limbo. Kerry is still fighting for his share. The rest of the conspiracy is trying to not look too concerned, as though they are innocent. They are selling their concern as being based on legacy protection and world peace.
 
Obama's largest lie was connected to the Iranian Deal. In the Iranian Uranium deal Obama sent Iran $150 Billion in assets plus $1.8 Billion in cash. The question is who deals in large blocks of cash and currencies? The answer is the black market, such as Chicago style mafia. This huge cash transfer was part of a money laundering scam of tax payer money, designed to be a golden parachute for the Obamas, the Clintons and the Kerrys, among other globalist world leaders. Other countries pitched in currencies.

Trump's blocking of the deal caused the laundered cash to go into limbo. Kerry is still fighting for his share. The rest of the conspiracy is trying to not look too concerned, as though they are innocent. They are selling their concern as being based on legacy protection and world peace.

First, your numbers are way off. Second, it's not a lie, because he admitted the payment was made.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/u-s-paid-1-3-billion-to-iran-two-days-after-cash-delivery/

The money settles a dispute over a $400 million payment made in the 1970s by the U.S.-backed shah’s government for military equipment. The equipment was never delivered because of the 1979 Islamic Revolution that overthrew the shah and ended diplomatic relations between the U.S. and Iran.

On Jan. 17, the administration paid Iran the account’s $400 million principal in pallets of euros, Swiss francs and other foreign currency, raising questions about the unusual payment. The $1.3 billion covers what Iran and the U.S. agreed would be the interest on the $400 million over the decades.


As far as your ALT Right claim about money laundering and golden parachutes, that's BS. Please provide a link from a reputable news source.
 
First, your numbers are way off. Second, it's not a lie, because he admitted the payment was made.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/u-s-paid-1-3-billion-to-iran-two-days-after-cash-delivery/

The money settles a dispute over a $400 million payment made in the 1970s by the U.S.-backed shah’s government for military equipment. The equipment was never delivered because of the 1979 Islamic Revolution that overthrew the shah and ended diplomatic relations between the U.S. and Iran.

On Jan. 17, the administration paid Iran the account’s $400 million principal in pallets of euros, Swiss francs and other foreign currency, raising questions about the unusual payment. The $1.3 billion covers what Iran and the U.S. agreed would be the interest on the $400 million over the decades.


As far as your ALT Right claim about money laundering and golden parachutes, that's BS. Please provide a link from a reputable news source.

If this was all on the level, they would have electronic transferred the money through banks. That would make it traceable and accountable. The CIA could watch the money trail to see if it ends up in personal accounts. If you use cash, it can distributed to those who ran the scam, in stealth. Each scammer can get a load of cash in their car trunk. People who deal in cash can also avoid the IRS, since the amount of cash is not traceable. The swamp is very concerned about this being known. However, it is criminal 1.0.
 
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If this was all on the level, they would have electronic transferred the money through banks. That would make it traceable and accountable. The CIA could watch the money trail to see if it ends up in personal accounts. If you use cash, it can distributed to those who ran the scam, in stealth. Each scammer can get a load of cash in their car trunk. People who deal in cash can also avoid the IRS, since the amount of cash is not traceable. The swamp is very concerned about this being known. However, it is criminal 1.0.

Not true. Iran may have demanded that the payment be in cash. I would not be surprised if somebody in their government embezzled the money. You have no grounds to say Obama, Kerry, etc laundered the money. Sounds like Rush Limbaugh anger-inciting ALT Right rheroric. Where is your reputable link?
 
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