Trump formally announces plan to Rig midterm elections

[reflechissez]

This is one of those threads I'm not sure I have the patience to suffer through. Something about Trump, lies and fascists again.
Anyone have the thread Cliff's Notes? TIA.

You could consider reading the OP -- or not.

 

[joluoto]

Florida and Texas will be hit the hardest as a % of their population.

No, they will still count them in Red States.

 

[Lethargic Aptitude]

Clause 2 of section 2 of the 14th Amendment addresses the issue of states excluding people from the count for representation. In that clause it is clear that citizenship is a criteria by which someone could be excluded. The courts, thus far, have not addressed this issue so forcing a decision makes sense.

Perhaps you could count them for 2/3rds of a human?

 

[Gaius46]

That was changed by the 14th Amendment

Doesn't change anything. The exclusion clause applies to citizens only.

 

[WorldWatcher]

It would be good to know the number of illegals in each state. Doing that would make the allocation of electors more accurate or would validate the current allocation.

You know it's against the law for a mid-decade census (which can happen) to be used to attempt to reapportion the house or draw congressional districts right?

WW

 

[NuffSaid]

Due to the massive number of illegals allowed in the country over the past decade I really have no problem with an off year census.

How about the census is taken in 2027, after the mid terms?

 

[NuffSaid]

The Dems will fight tooth and nail to keep illegal aliens counted. After all, they went to such great lengths to get those people INTO the country.

How do census takers know who’s illegal and who’s not?

 

[NuffSaid]

How is lawful redistricting based upon the political makeup of voters in the states "rigging" the election. CA, IL, NY are just 3 blue states that have drawn voting district lines to give democrats a disproportionate representation in the U.S. House of Representative. In those states Trump received a considerable larger percent of the vote than the share of republican represented districts in the House. Each of the three states have a much larger controlling number of seats in the House than the number of votes they receive would indicate. This is because of how the districts are carved out to ensure democrat victories.
It's clear that redistricting needs done, but CA, NY and IL have certainly gerrymandered the vote.

• California: California has 52 seats in the U.S. House of Representatives. The current composition is 43 Democrats and 9 Republicans.
• In California, Donald Trump received 38.3% of the votes this should allow for currrent composition 33 democrats to 19 republican seats in the House.
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• New York: New York has 26 seats in the U.S. House of Representatives. Current composition is 19 Democrats and 7 Republicans.
• In New York, Donald Trump received 43.3% of the votes, according to NBC News. It should be 15 democrats and 11 republicans.
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• Illinois: Illinois has 17 seats in the U.S. House of Representatives. Currrent composition is 14 Democrats to 3 Republicans.
• In Illinois, Donald Trump received 43.5% of the votes in 2024. . This should allow for 10 democrats and 7 republicans.
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• In Massachusetts Trump won 37% of the vote and there isn't a single republican seat in the House. All the MA seats are democrats.

Democrats are crying Wolf.

You assume that of those percentages that went for Trump were votes cast by Republicans.

How many Democrats, Independents, and undeclared also voted for Trump?

What about those voters who did not cast a vote?

Your premise is severely flawed.

 

[Airyaman]

Is there a reason that you are excluding this part of the clause?:

"and citizens of the United States"

What are you talking about, I left nothing out.

False.

Why do you want to spread falsehoods?

This clause says that if a state denies eligible male citizens aged 21 or older the right to vote (except for those who committed crimes or participated in rebellion), then that state's representation in Congress should be reduced in proportion to the number of citizens who were denied the vote.

"Citizens" here implies they are citizens of the US because that is what the clause is about, denying voting rights to those who should have them. It was written so some states would not deny voting rights to black men.

 

[Boots]

What are you talking about, I left nothing out.



"Citizens" here implies they are citizens of the US because that is what the clause is about, denying voting rights to those who should have them. It was written so some states would not deny voting rights to black men.

You are correct. I will blame it on tired eyes. My apologies.

 

[iliveonramen]

No, they will still count them in Red States.

Probably, they just want access and the ability to mess with this stuff.