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Trump DOJ is looking at ways to ban transgender Americans from owning guns

hecatmoggie said:
how do you classify anorexia ?
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Anorexia is in the same category as gender dysphoria. A distorted belief in direct contradiction of objective reality, that often leads to people self-harming their bodies.
 
hecatmoggie said:
how do you classify anorexia ?
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As a mental disorder.
They think.

The parallel you are looking for is what is the difference between a skinny person and an anorexic?

One just IS, the one thinks they aren't so they take steps to make sure they are skinny.
 
hecatmoggie said:
nobody can say transgender isn't a mental condition - it absolutely is
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NO MEDICAL ORGS in the world call it a mental illness. Only bigots do. Feel free to post you white wing "medial organization" that claims that it is. We need a good laugh this morning
 
Cope said:
That isn't the question but it could certainly be a cause for them having such a high incidence rate of mass murder.

The question is why they do, not IF.

But you can't even get to the THEY DO stage.
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They do not commit crime at a higher rate.
 
Gatsby said:
Anorexia is in the same category as gender dysphoria. A distorted belief in direct contradiction of objective reality, that often leads to people self-harming their bodies.
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I think that's accurate
 
madman said:
NO MEDICAL ORGS in the world call it a mental illness. Only bigots do. Feel free to post you white wing "medial organization" that claims that it is. We need a good laugh this morning
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if its not a mental issue - what is it ?

LITERALLY its the mind believing something that isn't true - isn't it ?
 
hecatmoggie said:
if its not a mental issue - what is it ?

LITERALLY its the mind believing something that isn't true - isn't it ?
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Actually there can be significant hormonal issues at play. Additionally, even it is a "mental" issue that doesn't make it a mental illness . Then again for some it may be a mental illness. These issues are complex and best left with experts in terms of diagnosis and treatment.
 
hecatmoggie said:
if its not a mental issue - what is it ?

LITERALLY its the mind believing something that isn't true - isn't it ?
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Post your medical org that says it's a mental illness. Let me guess you think being black and gay is a mental issue as well
 
hecatmoggie said:
if its not a mental issue - what is it ?

LITERALLY its the mind believing something that isn't true - isn't it ?
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If the mind believing something that isn't true constitutes mental illness there is one hell of a lot of mentally ill people walking around.
 
Cope said:
I didn't say 'crime' that was YOUR goal post move.
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Right. Thst wasnt a goal post move.

They do not commit mass murder at a higher rate than any other group.

Studies and data show that transgender people do not commit mass murder at a higher rate than other groups. The vast majority of mass shootings are perpetrated by cisgender men
. Claims that link transgender identity to mass violence are widely debunked by experts and fact-checking organizations.
Key facts from multiple analyses:
  • Transgender people are extremely rarely involved in mass shootings. The Violence Project, which maintains a database of mass shootings since 1966, has identified only one transgender individual among hundreds of cases that meet its criteria (four or more killed in public, excluding the perpetrator). Different data sets, with varying definitions of mass shooting, consistently show that trans and non-binary people make up a minuscule fraction of perpetrators, far less than their estimated share of the population.
    • Mass shootings are predominantly committed by cisgender men. Data from The Violence Project shows that 98% of mass shooters are men. A 2023 Reuters Fact Check confirmed that mass shootings are overwhelmingly carried out by cisgender men.
    • Transgender people are more often victims of violence than perpetrators. Transgender individuals are four times more likely to be victims of violent crime than cisgender people. They face disproportionately high rates of discrimination, harassment, and fatal violence.
 
NolanVoyd said:
Right. Thst wasnt a goal post move.

They do not commit mass murder at a higher rate than any other group.

Studies and data show that transgender people do not commit mass murder at a higher rate than other groups. The vast majority of mass shootings are perpetrated by cisgender men
. Claims that link transgender identity to mass violence are widely debunked by experts and fact-checking organizations.
Key facts from multiple analyses:
  • Transgender people are extremely rarely involved in mass shootings. The Violence Project, which maintains a database of mass shootings since 1966, has identified only one transgender individual among hundreds of cases that meet its criteria (four or more killed in public, excluding the perpetrator). Different data sets, with varying definitions of mass shooting, consistently show that trans and non-binary people make up a minuscule fraction of perpetrators, far less than their estimated share of the population.
    • Mass shootings are predominantly committed by cisgender men. Data from The Violence Project shows that 98% of mass shooters are men. A 2023 Reuters Fact Check confirmed that mass shootings are overwhelmingly carried out by cisgender men.
    • Transgender people are more often victims of violence than perpetrators. Transgender individuals are four times more likely to be victims of violent crime than cisgender people. They face disproportionately high rates of discrimination, harassment, and fatal violence.
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Since 1996 ...

Like I said, all we need to do is look at 2025.
 
Callen said:
Actually there can be significant hormonal issues at play. Additionally, even it is a "mental" issue that doesn't make it a mental illness . Then again for some it may be a mental illness. These issues are complex and best left with experts in terms of diagnosis and treatment.
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a mental issue is being a little depressed

a boy believing they're a girl is an illness IMO
 
hecatmoggie said:
a boy believing they're a girl is an illness IMO
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With all due respect your opinion is irrelevant given you are neither a medical doctor nor a psychiatrist. It is strictly your opinion based on ignorance of the actual issues. For what it's worth by your previous definition I would have to believe all Trumpers are mentally ill....which of course I don't
 
W_Heisenberg said:
Where was it reported? What was the source? What did the reports say exactly? I googled it and cannot find it. All I can find is them being more likely to be victims. I think you’re spreading a lie. I think you and other Trump supporters have no idea what you’re talking about. You guys keep repeating this line but I have yet to see a single link or reference be provided.
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Not my fault you have problems using Google
You have a right to think, but not to insult to sooth your injured ego..
 
Imma say it...

1 trans person and one confused Catholic teenaged girl who was afraid that she might be a lesbian shoot up Catholic schools/churches, and suddenly the 2nd Amendment rights of all transgender personnel is at risk. But let a straight white male shoot up a school, a church, a mall, a movie theater, a grocery store, a ballpark or invade the homes of elected officials, specifically, state or federal congressmen/women, and...

🦗🦗🦗
 
Bullseye said:
Not my fault you have problems using Google
You have a right to think, but not to insult to sooth your injured ego..
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WHERE IS THE LINK.

SHOW US THE LINK.

WHERE IS THE LINK.

This has nothing to do with my ego. You just have nothing to back up your argument.

And if you did, you'd offer up the link.

"Just google it."

Okay, you google it, then copy and paste the link.

It's so easy. Show us.
 
Cope said:
We could likely go back to 4 or 5 years even. But the cheery picking is when the massive shift of 'trans' folks started coming out/being made up or whatever during Biden's term.
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But they do not commit more mass shootings than other groups. Period

"Extensive research shows that transgender people do not commit mass shootings at a higher rate than the general population
. Claims suggesting otherwise are a form of misinformation frequently spread online, often after a high-profile attack. Data from reputable organizations consistently debunks this narrative. "

why do you keep falling for lies?
 
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NolanVoyd said:
But they do not commit more mass shootings than other groups. Period
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They have in that 4 or 5 year window.
NolanVoyd said:
"Extensive research shows that transgender people do not commit mass shootings at a higher rate than the general population
. Claims suggesting otherwise are a form of misinformation frequently spread online, often after a high-profile attack. Data from reputable organizations consistently debunks this narrative. "
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Your claims, if they are claims, have the people making them backpedaling back to include over30 years worth of data.

I mean, duh, the trans movement was basically non-existent, and trans people were a minuscule portion of our population, up until 4 or 5 years ago.
NolanVoyd said:
why do you jeep falling for lies?
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My jeep is just fine.
 
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