Trump 'didn't expect' to get laughed at while speaking at the UN

[Conservative]

Bush's disaster took that long to unravel, and his efforts were continuously undermined by the GOP. :shrug:

Interesting how we started coming out of recession in January 2009 and the recession ended in June 2009. Interesting how the Obama stimulus was passed by a Democratic Congress in late January 2009/early February. TARP was passed in October 2008 so apparently that is your definition of a long time? Keep buying what you are told and keep ignoring reality.

This was a financial recession that affected less Americans than any other Recession in history and yet the recovery was the worst on record. The facts speak for themselves and yet you ignore them

Compare Obama to Reagan both of whom had severe recessions

Table 1.1.1. Percent Change From Preceding Period in Real Gross Domestic Product
[Percent]
Bureau of Economic Analysis
Last Revised on: July 27, 2018 - Next Release Date August 29, 2018

Line 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016
Line
1 Gross domestic product -0.1 -2.5 2.6 1.6 2.2 1.8 2.5 2.9 1.6


Table 1.1.1. Percent Change From Preceding Period in Real Gross Domestic Product
[Percent]
Bureau of Economic Analysis
Last Revised on: July 27, 2018 - Next Release Date August 29, 2018

Line 1980 1981 1982 1983 1984 1985 1986 1987 1988
Line
1 Gross domestic product -0.3 2.5 -1.8 4.6 7.2 4.2 3.5 3.5 4.2

 

[Conservative]

'Ya know, I don't mean to brag, but I was laughing at Donald Trump a very long time before the UN decided to do it.

The 4 million new hires, 1 million more part time employees working full time, businesses, and the American taxpayers are also laughing at the lies, distortions coming from the radical left.

 

[Conservative]

It was interesting watching Trump call them stupid to their face:

Donald Trump declares 'I love the poorly educated'

And then watching them cheer him on for insulting them. Not something you see every day.

I find it stunning how the radical left sides with foreign countries and dictators over our own President who is doing exactly what is required, putting America first and calling out our so called allies to their face

 

[Conservative]

Well I think yours are wrong but thanks, I will keep posting and exposing Trump and his idiocy where I think it appropriate.

Your opinions will never win any debate, any lawsuit, or pay any bills, the facts will do all three

 

[Conservative]

You support your own delusions and your own devotion to partisan politics. Since you have proven that you don't understand how economy works, how civics work, or what foreign policy even is, you haven't the tiniest clue what "America" first even means. You absolutely spin everything and this has been proven to you far more than enough times.

- He inherited an economic trend in GDP and once the GOP stopped their "Party of NO" crap after taking congress in 2014, the GDP was allowed to get back on the trend:

2010 - 2.5%
2012 - 2.5%
2014 - 2.2% (GOP takes Congress)
2015 - 2.9%
2016 - 1.9% ("Party of NO" throughout 2015 affects economy)

2017 - 2.3% ("Party of NO" allows Trump to benefit from telling his easily manipulated flock that he "fixed" the economy).


- He inherited the down tick of unemployment.


- Trump has put "Trump" first on every issue, not America first. He leads by his ego and he convinces himself that he is a great President because his constituency are of the easily manipulated and repeat it back to him. He has systematically dismantled American influence in Asia, the Middle East, and Europe. He has damaged our leadership standing in the world to the point where we are beyond our allies condemning us now. Now, they laugh openly along side our enemies, who are looking to our allies for proper leadership. There is not a single U.S. President since conceiving the UN that wouldn't be ashamed. He is a walking contradiction to his own Administration's 2017 National Security Strategy and all you can do is default to your FOX News-inspired foolishness as you boast about having a clue about economy, civics, and foreign policy.

At this point, you are obviously just as delusional as Trump, who didn't expect to be laughed at.

Interesting interpretation of Treasury data as well as liberal interpretation of civics. What Trump economic policy was in place first qtr 2017 when GDP was 1.2%?

Table 1.1.1. Percent Change From Preceding Period in Real Gross Domestic Product
[Percent]
Bureau of Economic Analysis
Last Revised on: July 27, 2018 - Next Release Date August 29, 2018

Line 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016
Line
1 Gross domestic product -0.1 -2.5 2.6 1.6 2.2 1.8 2.5 2.9 1.6


Table 1.1.1. Percent Change From Preceding Period in Real Gross Domestic Product
[Percent]
Bureau of Economic Analysis
Last Revised on: July 27, 2018 - Next Release Date August 29, 2018

Line 1980 1981 1982 1983 1984 1985 1986 1987 1988
Line
1 Gross domestic product -0.3 2.5 -1.8 4.6 7.2 4.2 3.5 3.5 4.2

Thanks for supporting what I have been saying for years now, no yearly GDP over 3% making him the first President in modern history to have that distinction and that coming off what you and the radicals call the worst recession in history

 

[Conservative]

He inherited a wrecked economy. Trump inherited a good economy. This is beyond debate.

That is the liberal narrative and what you want to believe. The facts tell a different story especially as to what Trump inherited

 

[Buzz62]

None of that makes any sense to me. Sorry.

Perhaps because you can't see things from any other perspective?

 

[Helix]

That is the liberal narrative and what you want to believe. The facts tell a different story especially as to what Trump inherited

No, it is a fact. You can spend the rest of your life typing deflections in this thread, and it will still be a fact.

 

[Conservative]

No, it is a fact. You can spend the rest of your life typing deflections in this thread, and it will still be a fact.

Obama inherited exactly the economy the DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS wanted him to inherit and they and he knew that civics challenged people would blame Bush for the economic recession and totally ignore the Democratic participation as well as implementing the 2009 budget and the Obama stimulus package almost day one after Obama took office.

We have a large group of very poorly informed individuals who always want to place blame but never accept responsibility

Show me the signed and approved Bush budget for 2009?

Show me the data that the Stimulus was passed and signed by Obama?

Show me the date TARP was passed and signed?

Show us all what party controlled the Congress and the dates?

Pretty simple questions so if you are going to blame Bush, shouldn't you know the answers?

 

[Conservative]

No, it is a fact. You can spend the rest of your life typing deflections in this thread, and it will still be a fact.

Obama economic results vs. Reagan, This to you is called an Obama success? Most employed people in this country wouldn't keep their jobs with this kind of performance especially the end cost of generating these results, 9.3 TRILLION dollars more debt than Reagan, GHW and GW Bush combined in 20 years

Table 1.1.1. Percent Change From Preceding Period in Real Gross Domestic Product
[Percent]
Bureau of Economic Analysis
Last Revised on: July 27, 2018 - Next Release Date August 29, 2018

Line 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016
Line
1 Gross domestic product -0.1 -2.5 2.6 1.6 2.2 1.8 2.5 2.9 1.6


Table 1.1.1. Percent Change From Preceding Period in Real Gross Domestic Product
[Percent]
Bureau of Economic Analysis
Last Revised on: July 27, 2018 - Next Release Date August 29, 2018

Line 1980 1981 1982 1983 1984 1985 1986 1987 1988
Line
1 Gross domestic product -0.3 2.5 -1.8 4.6 7.2 4.2 3.5 3.5 4.2

 

[SMTA]

Perhaps because you can't see things from any other perspective?

The English used makes no sense.

 

[SMTA]

"Paid Shills?" Really? When can I expect my first paycheck? Maybe it will arrive with the missing shovels from the Obama stimulus for shovel ready jobs. I am a retired person who spent 35 years in the private sector, had knee surgery and recovering here spending time trying to educate people like you. That is a full time unpaid position. Too bad you don't have the ability to do proper research

Yes, absolutely.

 

[Helix]

Obama inherited exactly the economy the DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS wanted him to inherit and they and he knew that civics challenged people would blame Bush for the economic recession and totally ignore the Democratic participation as well as implementing the 2009 budget and the Obama stimulus package almost day one after Obama took office.

We have a large group of very poorly informed individuals who always want to place blame but never accept responsibility

Show me the signed and approved Bush budget for 2009?

Show me the data that the Stimulus was passed and signed by Obama?

Show me the date TARP was passed and signed?

Show us all what party controlled the Congress and the dates?

Pretty simple questions so if you are going to blame Bush, shouldn't you know the answers?

Obama inherited a wrecked economy. Refer to the charts and data that I posted. If you have any trouble, I'll link you to the posts.

 

[Bum]

Trump 'didn't expect' to get laughed at while speaking at the UN

Why would he think speaking at the UN would be any different than speaking in the US?

 

[Helix]

Obama economic results vs. Reagan, This to you is called an Obama success? Most employed people in this country wouldn't keep their jobs with this kind of performance especially the end cost of generating these results, 9.3 TRILLION dollars more debt than Reagan, GHW and GW Bush combined in 20 years

Addressed in earlier posts.

 

[MSgt]

Wow, cannot believe how poorly informed you people are. Bush left office January 2009 and had NO budget approved for 2009. Congress was controlled by the Democrats and Obama signed the 2009 budget AFTER getting his 842 billion dollar stimulus plan passed in January 2009. Still the left wants to blame Bush for 2009 with no budget, no economic policies in place and a Democratic Congress. So please explain to me how 2009's -2.7% GDP growth was Bush's?

My point which continues to be ignored is that we had negative GDP growth in 2008(Bush), 2009(Obama) and still the best he could do was 2.5% in 2010 and that includes the 842 billion in stimulus spending which is part of GDP.

When a single person cannot believe how all the people around him are "poorly informed," it usually means that he is absolutely clueless about himself. This is the same mentality that has seen your kind fill the "fake news" category to such a bloated condition that you only have Fox News and a Donald Trump Tweet to comfort you. And you have proven enough times that you want nobody to prove anything to you. You are simply not interested in learning a damn thing. Your point is ignored because it is absolutely stupid...

- You refuse to place 2009 within the context of the global recession, which was an actual bust, not a routine recession.

- You refuse to understand that the economy does not switch on and off in accordance to the calendar year and is, in fact, a fluid movement of past and present conditions and decisions.

- You refuse to understand that the U.S. economy is not an island apart from the global economy, which was hindered for years because of the much slower recovery of European and Asian markets at a time when whole European countries were getting bailed out and experiencing austerity issues.

- You whine about a 2.5% in 2010 but do not whine about a 2.3% in 2017, which would have probably been higher had the GOP not sabotaged 2016.

- And here you wish to point out that Congress was controlled by Democrats in 2009, ignoring the extenuating circumstances of the Great Recession, while hypocritically ignoring that Republicans assumed control of Congress in 2014, thereby bringing government to a halt by 2016, for which you excuse so that you can blame Obama for that year's GDP exception to the trend.

As long as you play these partisan games and create for yourself such a skewed and perverted sense of the world, you will always think that its everybody else who is "poorly informed." But, shall I produce for you the multiple studies that show that it is a Fox News-viewer who is least informed?

 

[JustHanging]

Obama inherited exactly the economy the DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS wanted him to inherit and they and he knew that civics challenged people would blame Bush for the economic recession and totally ignore the Democratic participation as well as implementing the 2009 budget and the Obama stimulus package almost day one after Obama took office.

OK, let's say we accept your theory that it was all a giant conspiracy.

Where do the Lizard People come into it? You can't have a conspiracy on this massive scale without a leak if the Lizard People aren't involved. Everyone knows that.

We have a large group of very poorly informed individuals who always want to place blame but never accept responsibility

We do indeed. And Trump said he loves them:

Donald Trump declares 'I love the poorly educated'

Show me the signed and approved Bush budget for 2009?

Show me the data that the Stimulus was passed and signed by Obama?

Show me the date TARP was passed and signed?

Show us all what party controlled the Congress and the dates?

Pretty simple questions so if you are going to blame Bush, shouldn't you know the answers?

You're the one asserting that the threat of an economic collapse was all a giant conspiracy.

You support your claims first, with links to reputable sites, because that which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

 

[Buzz62]

The English used makes no sense.

To most Europeans, ALL AMERICANS elected Trump. You don't get a pass. Thus they are laughing at you.

Also, people in Central Europe are not laughing. They like Trump.

Is that simple enough?

 

[SMTA]

To most Europeans, ALL AMERICANS elected Trump. You don't get a pass. Thus they are laughing at you.

Also, people in Central Europe are not laughing. They like Trump.

Is that simple enough?

It makes sense when proper English is used.

 

[JustHanging]

To most Europeans, ALL AMERICANS elected Trump. You don't get a pass. Thus they are laughing at you.

Nah, we're well aware that not all Americans elected Trump. We just laugh at the ones who did.

Also, people in Central Europe are not laughing. They like Trump.

Not the last time I checked:

Trump Unpopular Worldwide, American Image Suffers

Is that simple enough?

Well, apparently the chart showing Trump is unpopular in central European countries wasn't simple enough.

 

[Conservative]

Obama inherited a wrecked economy. Refer to the charts and data that I posted. If you have any trouble, I'll link you to the posts.

I have posted the official data and yet you claim Obama inherited a wrecked economy when every measurement says you are wrong. You want badly to believe your claim but why? What vested interest do you have in this rhetoric of yours?

I asked some specific questions which you ignored. try again? What exactly was the Democratic Congress doing from January 2007 to January 2009? Maybe you don't understand the role of Congress?

The economy you claimed was wrecked started in December 2007 and ended in June 2009, rather amazing claims on your part when the Obama stimulus wasn't even spent until after June 2009. TARP was spent and TARP was repaid in 2009 but never reduced the debt, gee, wonder why? Pretty simple, the left knew that people like you would do exactly what you are doing, blame Bush and defy civics

 

[MSgt]

Interesting interpretation of Treasury data as well as liberal interpretation of civics. What Trump economic policy was in place first qtr 2017 when GDP was 1.2%?

Yes, we have all seen your default little chart of pointlessness as you ignorantly try to compare Reagan's era to Obama's era, completely abandoning the differences in global economy, the differences in recessions, and the reality that George H. W. Bush inherited Reagan's 1980s mess and had to increase taxes in order to deal with the recession he encouraged and the national debt. Of course, we all know that this was left to a Democrat to fix, don't we? And what did Bush's son do and leave for the next Democrat?

And we have all seen you ask trivial questions that amount to nothing because you haven't a clue how to argue your very bad position of blind support for team spirit.

Thanks for supporting what I have been saying for years now, no yearly GDP over 3% making him the first President in modern history to have that distinction and that coming off what you and the radicals call the worst recession in history

And in your typical manner you default to that FOX News talking point about a 3% as if this means anything. It has always been highly pathetic that you people are so easily manipulated by Fox news/Trump narratives. Here, we see that the 2.9% of 2015 is supposed to be a fail, whereas an extra .1% would have been success.

And the other FOX News narrative you vomit here is the notion that all the world's economists, all the world's markets, and bankrupted countries were just an illusion created by "radicals" on the left. And you choose to buy into this narrative because it meets with your irrational and pathetic needs to hate Obama, just like what you were told to do for years. It fits well with tomato paste vegetables and Global Warming liberal hoaxes.

And the irony of you using the word 'radical' is genuinely sad.

 

[Conservative]

Addressed in earlier posts.

No, you posted quarterly numbers which aren't relevant as yearly is all that matters. You have yet to respond to the questions posed nor have you countered the official data with data of your own IN CONTEXT

 

[Conservative]

When a single person cannot believe how all the people around him are "poorly informed," it usually means that he is absolutely clueless about himself. This is the same mentality that has seen your kind fill the "fake news" category to such a bloated condition that you only have Fox News and a Donald Trump Tweet to comfort you. And you have proven enough times that you want nobody to prove anything to you. You are simply not interested in learning a damn thing. Your point is ignored because it is absolutely stupid...

- You refuse to place 2009 within the context of the global recession, which was an actual bust, not a routine recession.

- You refuse to understand that the economy does not switch on and off in accordance to the calendar year and is, in fact, a fluid movement of past and present conditions and decisions.

- You refuse to understand that the U.S. economy is not an island apart from the global economy, which was hindered for years because of the much slower recovery of European and Asian markets at a time when whole European countries were getting bailed out and experiencing austerity issues.

- You whine about a 2.5% in 2010 but do not whine about a 2.3% in 2017, which would have probably been higher had the GOP not sabotaged 2016.

- And here you wish to point out that Congress was controlled by Democrats in 2009, ignoring the extenuating circumstances of the Great Recession, while hypocritically ignoring that Republicans assumed control of Congress in 2014, thereby bringing government to a halt by 2016, for which you excuse so that you can blame Obama for that year's GDP exception to the trend.

As long as you play these partisan games and create for yourself such a skewed and perverted sense of the world, you will always think that its everybody else who is "poorly informed." But, shall I produce for you the multiple studies that show that it is a Fox News-viewer who is least informed?

Yes I do refuse to put the 2009 results in context with the Global recession because the US economy doesn't rely on govt. spending as a major portion of GDP like the world economies do. This recession affected fewer Americans than any other recession in history but you aren't living in this country so really don't have a point of reference. You buy the liberal narrative and ignore the liberal results. Such a severe recession should have had an incredible recovery, it didn't because Obama focused on bailing out the public sector and unions vs. providing incentive to the private sector that actually creates the jobs and taxpayers.

Nothing partisan about me because actual data and facts aren't partisan, they are REALITY

The 2017 results were skewed by the 1.2% first qtr results of 2017 that you want to blame on Trump. Interesting how 2017 results are Trump's but 2009 results are Bush's Hmmmm, interesting!!

 

[Buzz62]

Nah, we're well aware that not all Americans elected Trump. We just laugh at the ones who did.



Not the last time I checked:

Trump Unpopular Worldwide, American Image Suffers



Well, apparently the chart showing Trump is unpopular in central European countries wasn't simple enough for some.

Well that's not what I hear when I speak with friends and family across the continent.
And I have a feeling that poll of yours is...inaccurate to say the least.