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Trump created this problem, as he always does

If Trump decides to stay out of the Iran conflict, then dems will piss and moan, and say that he needs to intervene.

If Trump decides to take action in the Iran conflict, then dems will piss and moan, and say that he should not intervene.
"Stay out?" He caused it.
 
If you don't want to discuss the topic of this thread, fine. Start a new thread about "everyone hates Trump" - or maybe just post "TDS" and bounce.

The topic of this thread is whether or not Trump backing out of the original nuclear deal with Iran led to where we are today, as the OP indicated by the Senator Chris Murphy quote.
That wasn't what you were asking of me in your previous post. You asked where I might have been trying to explain the present administration's policies or actions or such.

And so I used that site tool of ten pages of past posts, and found these three:




But that was just a quick search.

Well, that second URL looks odd, but I am sure I copied what this site's tool was offering.

NOW, about your latest post; I just took a quick look above and this is your post, yes?

Of course, none of your post attempts to justify anything Trump is doing. Because you can't. And deep down, you know it.

You then asked for some confirmation and before even ten minutes went by you are now giving me new parameters for our back-and-forth. I saw stuff like that on "Perry Mason" many years ago. Are you a lawyer? A judge?

EDIT: Just in case you forgot; per your request ---
 
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If Trump decides to stay out of the Iran conflict, then dems will piss and moan, and say that he needs to intervene.

This is stupid. See how that works?
Brokering peace and staying out of the conflict is a good thing
If Trump decides to take action in the Iran conflict, then dems will piss and moan, and say that he should not intervene.

Depends on the action.
Either way you are trying to control the narrative and make the dems flaot a narrow path.

Dems could just not do anything and watch you all drown..

Which is what I plan to do
 
That wasn't what you were asking of me in your previous post. You asked where I might have been trying to explain the present administration's policies or actions or such.
Nothing you posted is the topic of this thread. Care to specifically address the OP's quote?
 
This is stupid. See how that works?
Brokering peace and staying out of the conflict is a good thing


Depends on the action.
Either way you are trying to control the narrative and make the dems flaot a narrow path.

Dems could just not do anything and watch you all drown..

Which is what I plan to do
Not even 1 week into the new Israel vs Iran war, they are already left with only "TDS" as an argument

pretty sad
 
In a way, it is kind of fitting that Trump killing the original nuclear deal makes it so that he is the one who has to deal with it now
 
If Trump decides to stay out of the Iran conflict, then dems will piss and moan, and say that he needs to intervene.

If Trump decides to take action in the Iran conflict, then dems will piss and moan, and say that he should not intervene.
Great, let's keep track of how many Democrats say, yeah, let's go to war. The shit you guys make up, sounds like the shit your party does.
 
On the world stage the Democrats have become largely irrelevant. They don't represent anyone and having no core ideology they struggle to even find a viable position or stand.
I love the stuff you guys pass off to each other as accurate. The world stage, exaggerate much?
 
If Trump decides to stay out of the Iran conflict, then dems will piss and moan, and say that he needs to intervene.

If Trump decides to take action in the Iran conflict, then dems will piss and moan, and say that he should not intervene.
First problem with your post it assuming Trump decides anything except to wait two weeks.
 
First problem with your post it assuming Trump decides anything except to wait two weeks.
My goodness, you really don't get it, do you. I'll bet the military in Iran gets it. That two-week nonsense is a smokescreen. You reckon maybe a couple days at most and all assets are ready and what? We're just going to sit around and ... well, what might your tactical knowledge be giving you in the way of insight? Have you got any clue how much planning this all takes? And the cost? And the risks? You think this is all some sort of game?

By the way, what are your leadership skills? Let us say even down to platoon size leadership skills? How are you able to assess a tactical situation? Do you know what a SitRep is without looking it up on Google?
 
My goodness, you really don't get it, do you. I'll bet the military in Iran gets it. That two-week nonsense is a smokescreen. You reckon maybe a couple days at most and all assets are ready and what? We're just going to sit around and ... well, what might your tactical knowledge be giving you in the way of insight? Have you got any clue how much planning this all takes? And the cost? And the risks? You think this is all some sort of game?
By the way, what are your leadership skills? Let us say even down to platoon size leadership skills? How are you able to assess a tactical situation? Do you know what a SitRep is without looking it up on Google?

out of curiosity

Can you explain how @Callen's skills are relevant to whether or not the guy who thinks dementia screenings are difficult makes decisions?
 
I tend to agree with you. I also think the Israelis are hoping that the Iranian people will bring about regime change themselves and make it possible for Israel to stop the military action. The Israelis do not view Iran the way that they do the Arab states. They do not want to bomb the civilian centers. They are hoping that the Iranian people will have an uprising and spare them doing that, but wonder if regime change can come without an army's cooperation in Iran.
It does not appear to be working. From most of the reports I've been seeing, Iranians are in solidarity against Israel and there is very little pushback against their own government.

Just one of many examples:

 
What better way to keep the nescient electorate gulled than creating a problem and the “solution” to said problem….
 
Well, I'd be mighty grateful if you were to explain what this:
It was meant to reflect on Trump's decion making capabilities.
 
What better way to keep the nescient electorate gulled than creating a problem and the “solution” to said problem….
Oh my goodness, now we have President Trump being the one that helped the regime in Iran gain power. That sure is a comfort. I thought he was a civilian into real estate back then. I guess I'd better toss my Sherlock Holmes stuff in the trash and focus on this story you folks are weaving.

Let us see, the "present electorate" is gulled by a story/plot that started back in '79 or '80 --- sorry I don't remember when that was, but I think I remember POTUS was President Carter. I was working for the government then, but in Asia.

Anyway, please continue with this story you are unfolding to us. This is getting interesting. And thank you for helping me stay awake. See, I'm still in Asia, and it is dark outside and soon my bedtime.
 
It was meant to reflect on Trump's decion making capabilities.
And you would be familiar with how he makes his decisions because you work in what government position? Or you are relying on reports from others? Please fill me in on how you manage to deduce these things. Thank you.
 
Oh my goodness, now we have President Trump being the one that helped the regime in Iran gain power.

Never said he did that, did I. I am speaking about his actions pointed out in the OP.

That sure is a comfort. I thought he was a civilian into real estate back then. I guess I'd better toss my Sherlock Holmes stuff in the trash and focus on this story you folks are weaving.

I don’t have to weave anything, the shock jock in chief is doing that all by himself with his knee jerk rhetoric.
Let us see, the "present electorate" is gulled by a story/plot that started back in '79 or '80 --- sorry I don't remember when that was, but I think I remember POTUS was President Carter. I was working for the government then, but in Asia.

See first part of my response.
Anyway, please continue with this story you are unfolding to us. This is getting interesting. And thank you for helping me stay awake. See, I'm still in Asia, and it is dark outside and soon my bedtime.

The “story” has yet to play out. Lets see what happens within the two week time frame POTUS laid out. I mean it was such a brilliant gambit to notify Iran of our timeline!
 
Never said he did that, did I. I am speaking about his actions pointed out in the OP.

I don’t have to weave anything, the shock jock in chief is doing that all by himself with his knee jerk rhetoric.

See first part of my response.

The “story” has yet to play out. Lets see what happens within the two week time frame POTUS laid out. I mean it was such a brilliant gambit to notify Iran of our timeline!
Blue Dog, you can do better than that, can't you? That's rather lame stuff you posted. I have faith that you can improve your narrative.

Well, maybe you are just trying to draw me further into this pile of bovine excrement because you like me so much? That's it, isn't it? You are drawn to my every written word. That's so cool. Gosh I have a fan club!

OR, you can sharpen up your narrative and start making some sense around here and then you might just gain a bit of respect!!
 
I'm okay with saying out of that mess.
I'm somewhere in between.
I can see the point of the US using GBU-57s to destroy the underground nuclear facility, and I can see the point of the US not doing so. I could go either way on the question, at this point.

We learned hard lessons about mission creep with Vietnam and Afghanistan - - how a "quick" and "decisive" military intervention can turn into a 20 year conflict.
Not all "quick" and "decisive" military intervention end up that way.
Some of them do in fact remain "quick" and "decisive" military interventions. (Thinking back to Gulf 1 & Gulf 2)

Nah. The U.S. is not the policeman of the world.

"America is not the world's policeman. Terrible things happen across the globe, and it is beyond our means to right every wrong." - Barack Obama
 
Blue Dog, you can do better than that, can't you? That's rather lame stuff you posted. I have faith that you can improve your narrative.
Lame stuff? I see you really are not interested in a discussion.

Well, maybe you are just trying to draw me further into this pile of bovine excrement because you like me so much? That's it, isn't it? You are drawn to my every written word. That's so cool. Gosh I have a fan club!

See above
OR, you can sharpen up your narrative and start making some sense around here and then you might just gain a bit of respect!!

So, you are just here to troll my posts. Got it. 😎
 
If Trump decides to stay out of the Iran conflict, then dems will piss and moan, and say that he needs to intervene.

If Trump decides to take action in the Iran conflict, then dems will piss and moan, and say that he should not intervene.

It's not the Democrats objecting that is the problem. It is the Republicans objecting. A rebellion in the ranks of MAGA would have far reaching and serious impact in his agenda.
 
If Trump decides to stay out of the Iran conflict, then dems will piss and moan, and say that he needs to intervene.

If Trump decides to take action in the Iran conflict, then dems will piss and moan, and say that he should not intervene.
You shouldn't cheer for a guy who just ****s everything up.

Hell, hurricane SEASONS will crush Trump voting Southerners for decades.
 
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