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Trump could have helped response to Jan. 6 riot — but didn’t — per new testimony

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"Donald Trump could have cleared up confusion and hastened the arrival of National Guard troops to quell the Capitol riot if he’d called Pentagon leaders on Jan. 6, 2021, according to recent closed-door congressional testimony by two former leaders of the D.C. guard. Michael Brooks, the senior enlisted leader of the D.C. guard at the time of the riot, and Brigadier Gen. Aaron Dean, the adjutant general of the D.C. guard at the time, told House Administration Committee staffers that if Trump had reached out that day — which, by all accounts, he did not — he might have helped cut through the chaos amid a tangle of conflicting advice and miscommunication.

“Could the president have picked up the phone, called the secretary of defense, and said, you know, ‘What’s going on here?’ Our law enforcement is getting overrun, make this happen!’” a committee staffer asked Brooks, according to the transcript of a previously unreported March 14 interview reviewed by POLITICO.
“I assume he could expedite an approval through the Secretary of Defense, through the Secretary of the Army,” Brooks replied.

But Trump never called any military leaders on Jan. 6, per testimony from senior administration officials to the Jan. 6 select committee — a fact that the panel emphasized in its final report that concluded Trump was uniquely responsible for the violent Capitol attack by his supporters. Rather, he was observing the riot on TV and calling allies in his quest to subvert the 2020 election, as outlined by committee witnesses and White House records."

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Trump didn't need to call on the Guard. He could have called on his supporters to stop their violent invasion of the Capitol. Instead, he egged them in with a tweet about how Pence had betrayed them.

And people want to let this maniac back into the White House? Wow.
 
Interesting how just a day or so before this story came out there was another story 'released' seeming to blame others for the delay in mobilizing the NG. Could that have been the preemptory 'strike' from the magas when they realised that this story was about to go public and show Trump never did anything???
 
On J6 Trump spent hours wanking to FOX coverage of his mob assaulting law enforcement, sending Hawley running for safety, and demanding Pence be hung. Only after it was clear they would not be able to delay the certification of Biden's victory did he tell them he loved them and to depart.
 
j brown's body said:
"Donald Trump could have cleared up confusion and hastened the arrival of National Guard troops to quell the Capitol riot if he’d called Pentagon leaders on Jan. 6, 2021, according to recent closed-door congressional testimony by two former leaders of the D.C. guard. Michael Brooks, the senior enlisted leader of the D.C. guard at the time of the riot, and Brigadier Gen. Aaron Dean, the adjutant general of the D.C. guard at the time, told House Administration Committee staffers that if Trump had reached out that day — which, by all accounts, he did not — he might have helped cut through the chaos amid a tangle of conflicting advice and miscommunication.

“Could the president have picked up the phone, called the secretary of defense, and said, you know, ‘What’s going on here?’ Our law enforcement is getting overrun, make this happen!’” a committee staffer asked Brooks, according to the transcript of a previously unreported March 14 interview reviewed by POLITICO.
“I assume he could expedite an approval through the Secretary of Defense, through the Secretary of the Army,” Brooks replied.

But Trump never called any military leaders on Jan. 6, per testimony from senior administration officials to the Jan. 6 select committee — a fact that the panel emphasized in its final report that concluded Trump was uniquely responsible for the violent Capitol attack by his supporters. Rather, he was observing the riot on TV and calling allies in his quest to subvert the 2020 election, as outlined by committee witnesses and White House records."

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Trump didn't need to call on the Guard. He could have called on his supporters to stop their violent invasion of the Capitol. Instead, he egged them in with a tweet about how Pence had betrayed them.

And people want to let this maniac back into the White House? Wow.
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I seemingly made a wrong turn and ended up in a 2021 thread.

How is this news now? We knew this shortly after the event happened. It was well covered in the J6 committee hearings.
 
upsideguy said:
I seemingly made a wrong turn and ended up in a 2021 thread.

How is this news now? We knew this shortly after the event happened. It was well covered in the J6 committee hearings.
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The article was from yesterday. Evidently this testimony only happened a few days ago.
 
upsideguy said:
I seemingly made a wrong turn and ended up in a 2021 thread.

How is this news now? We knew this shortly after the event happened. It was well covered in the J6 committee hearings.
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Exactly. I was going to post the same thing. This is old news. I guess the whistleblower from the NG put the new light on it. I never had any doubts Trump was derelict. He was born derelict.

The corroboration of the 1-6 committee is a good thing.
 
Callen said:
The article was from yesterday. Evidently this testimony only happened a few days ago.
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It's speculation at best - and not new.

Worth noting that the focus of the hearing was on mistrust of Trump by senior military leaders, and the whether they lied about giving the order to deploy when they said they did.

This was also in the testimony and article

Matthews differed from Brooks and Dean on the question of whether Trump’s involvement could have made a difference. Because Trump had already delegated authority to Miller and McCarthy, there was little for him to do, according to Matthews, who told the Administration Committee that it’s not clear whether McCarthy would have heeded his call.

“The president wasn’t going to call us because he’s trusting the chain of command,” Matthews told the Administration panel. He noted that some testimony to the Jan. 6 committee underscored concerns among military leaders that Trump might try using a troop presence at the Capitol for nefarious purposes.

In his testimony to the Jan. 6 committee, McCarthy denied harboring concerns that Trump might misuse the National Guard. “I mean, in the lead-up to it, did not see anything that would give you the sense he was going to order us to send troops to the Capitol in support of anything untoward,” McCarthy said.

In a statement Matthews issued ahead of his public testimony, he elaborated on his belief. “The committee knew that even if President Trump had called down personally to the Secretary of the Army, who had effective operational control of the D.C. National Guard, to direct the immediate movement of the Guard, it would have had no impact.”
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dcsports said:
It's speculation at best - and not new.

Worth noting that the focus of the hearing was on mistrust of Trump by senior military leaders, and the whether they lied about giving the order to deploy when they said they did.

This was also in the testimony and article
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It's chrystal clear that Trump could have acted that day to deploy the guard and chose not no. He watched as the violence unfolded and never once contacted anyone about the status of the guard. He did nothing to ensure the protection of those inside the Capitol building including his own VP. That is a truth that cannot be disputed. Trying to deflect to the actions/inactios of others in no way absolves him of his obligation and duty.

Why not just say you know he didn't act that day to protect the Capitol and are perfectly OK with that because that's basically what it boils down to?
 
"I’ve frequently seen people say, “My God! How can those MAGA nuts believe all of the bullshit stuff Trump says?!”

Forget all about that question. It’s irrelevant.

I would argue that many of these MAGA followers (though they’d never admit it) do not believe his “stolen” election lies.

This is important to understand.

It’s what his lies give them permission to DO, and the behaviors they can unleash in the name of those lies that matters to them.

Many of them don’t give a damn whether his claims are true….or not.

His lies conveniently provide a justification for allowing their worst self out of the cage it’s usually locked up inside of.

This is exactly why so many of them are impossible to sway with facts to the contrary. Many of them already know you are right.

It’s the loss of an excuse to be a belligerent asshole and ultra aggressive towards others they don’t want to be stripped of, and that’s what would happen if they agreed with you.

As it stands, they get to hate and blame President Biden and the “Communist” left wing “nuts” who follow him.

If they admit to not believing the big lie, they’d be responsible for their choices, words and behaviors…with no one to blame…and that…is the last thing they want to have happen."


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Trump got off watching his redneck army storm the Capitol.
He probably had wood.
Thousands of hillbillies were there for him doing his bidding.
 
HenryChinaski said:
Trump got off watching his redneck army storm the Capitol.
He probably had wood.
Thousands of hillbillies were there for him doing his bidding.
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There's no doubt he had wood. First pumping away as 40 cops got the shit beat out of them.
 
CaughtInThe said:
"I’ve frequently seen people say, “My God! How can those MAGA nuts believe all of the bullshit stuff Trump says?!”

Forget all about that question. It’s irrelevant.

I would argue that many of these MAGA followers (though they’d never admit it) do not believe his “stolen” election lies.

This is important to understand.

It’s what his lies give them permission to DO, and the behaviors they can unleash in the name of those lies that matters to them.

Many of them don’t give a damn whether his claims are true….or not.

His lies conveniently provide a justification for allowing their worst self out of the cage it’s usually locked up inside of.

This is exactly why so many of them are impossible to sway with facts to the contrary. Many of them already know you are right.

It’s the loss of an excuse to be a belligerent asshole and ultra aggressive towards others they don’t want to be stripped of, and that’s what would happen if they agreed with you.

As it stands, they get to hate and blame President Biden and the “Communist” left wing “nuts” who follow him.

If they admit to not believing the big lie, they’d be responsible for their choices, words and behaviors…with no one to blame…and that…is the last thing they want to have happen."


Jack Hopkins
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Mr Hopkins is spot on.
 
j brown's body said:
"Donald Trump could have cleared up confusion and hastened the arrival of National Guard troops to quell the Capitol riot if he’d called Pentagon leaders on Jan. 6, 2021, according to recent closed-door congressional testimony by two former leaders of the D.C. guard. Michael Brooks, the senior enlisted leader of the D.C. guard at the time of the riot, and Brigadier Gen. Aaron Dean, the adjutant general of the D.C. guard at the time, told House Administration Committee staffers that if Trump had reached out that day — which, by all accounts, he did not — he might have helped cut through the chaos amid a tangle of conflicting advice and miscommunication.

“Could the president have picked up the phone, called the secretary of defense, and said, you know, ‘What’s going on here?’ Our law enforcement is getting overrun, make this happen!’” a committee staffer asked Brooks, according to the transcript of a previously unreported March 14 interview reviewed by POLITICO.
“I assume he could expedite an approval through the Secretary of Defense, through the Secretary of the Army,” Brooks replied.

But Trump never called any military leaders on Jan. 6, per testimony from senior administration officials to the Jan. 6 select committee — a fact that the panel emphasized in its final report that concluded Trump was uniquely responsible for the violent Capitol attack by his supporters. Rather, he was observing the riot on TV and calling allies in his quest to subvert the 2020 election, as outlined by committee witnesses and White House records."

Link

Trump didn't need to call on the Guard. He could have called on his supporters to stop their violent invasion of the Capitol. Instead, he egged them in with a tweet about how Pence had betrayed them.

And people want to let this maniac back into the White House? Wow.
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A DC guard.

"Nuff said
 
Is this the same hearing that was going to totally exonerate Trump?

Whistleblowers To Further Dismantle Jan. 6 National Guard Narrative About Trump

NG whistle blowers are expected to testify they were on buses ready to go. Sounds Benghazi like. On Wednesday, whistleblowers from the Washington DC National Guard are expected to tell Congressional investigators that former President Donald Trump wanted them deployed, but an Army...
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bongsaway said:
Another trump lie put to rest but the right wingers will still insist it was nancy's fault.
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Actually, the last person Trump accused for the failure to deploy troops on J6 was Nikki Haley(!?!)

I know it's hard to believe, but if you're a Trumpster, the current story is Haley was in charge of security at the Capitol and she turned down 10,000 troops Trump offered her. Anyone who testifies otherwise is lying.

 
CaughtInThe said:
If they admit to not believing the big lie, they’d be responsible for their choices, words and behaviors…with no one to blame…and that…is the last thing they want to have happen."
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Makes perfect sense since MAGAs have cucked themselves for a man who famously said "I don't take responsibility at all."
 
Stealers Wheel said:
Actually, the last person Trump accused for the failure to deploy troops on J6 was Nikki Haley(!?!)

I know it's hard to believe, but if you're a Trumpster, the current story is Haley was in charge of security at the Capitol and she turned down 10,000 troops Trump offered her. Anyone who testifies otherwise is lying.

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And yet the trumpsters listen to this shit without even blinking.
 
Callen said:
It's chrystal clear that Trump could have acted that day to deploy the guard and chose not no. He watched as the violence unfolded and never once contacted anyone about the status of the guard. He did nothing to ensure the protection of those inside the Capitol building including his own VP. That is a truth that cannot be disputed. Trying to deflect to the actions/inactios of others in no way absolves him of his obligation and duty.

Why not just say you know he didn't act that day to protect the Capitol and are perfectly OK with that because that's basically what it boils down to?
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lol. You are shouting at the clouds, and trying to deflect from the real issues with the guard deployment.

Sure, he could have called the Secretary of the Army and said 'Where's the guard?' He could have butted into the call, and said, "We now have a request from the Capitol, move the guard now!" That's even what I would have done in the situation. He could have yelled and blustered at people, demanding action.

And it probably wouldn't have changed a thing. Trump still would have been criticized - this time for butting in instead of letting the professionals do their job. He would be accused of delaying the response with his interference. It wasn't necessary - The secretary of the Army already had the authority, and Trump had also given his approval to give the capitol whatever they needed. It wouldn't have sped up the response - the guard was already preparing, expecting the order. And it wouldn't have helped the situation. Short of teleportation or time travel, it was too late.

Leaving the decision to the professionals - who already had the authority and his approval - was a valid choice. It might not be what you or I would have done, but we also weren't in his position. He trusted his subordinates to do the right thing.

What would have made a difference is having the guard on hand that morning, as the Capitol Police Chief requested. But the Capitol Police Board didn't want that. They didn't trust their subordinate to make that decision, and denied his request. That's where the focus should be.

And certainly if some of the testimony is correct - that the Army slow walked the approval because they didn't trust the President - that's another big issue we need to dig into.
 
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