Trump could be the first President to get impeached twice

[madman]

Good.

Yes! this will put all republican reps on notice. Are you still for or against trump?

 

[haymarket]

See my previous post. It IS possible for the Senate to convict under some conditions, and once Trump is convicted, he can never run for any public office in this country again. That is flat worth the effort.

Legally preventing Trump from ever running again is more than enough reason to continue with impeachment even if he leaves office.

 

[narrowroad]

Trump is not the one who should be impeached

sheez

all those millions of fake ballots...

the thugs "won" through thuggery

it was a coup

we are now officially a banana republic (no, worse). We were supposed to know better

 

[Tbird19482]

Trump is not the one who should be impeached

sheez

all those millions of fake ballots...

the thugs "won" through thuggery

it was a coup

we are now officially a banana republic (no, worse). We were supposed to know better

Again for the millionth time where is the proof of all these million ballots you talk about.
Over 50 cases kicked out of court for no proof of fraud.
IF there were MILLIONS of fake ballots it should be easy to show it in court with real proof.
If there WAS all this Massive fraud, it would have taken several thousand people in all these states to pull it off.
and it would have had to have been planed way ahead of time so why was it ONLY in states Biden won , How could have any body known it would be these states and NOT any state that Trump won.
It all started with Trumps lie from back in 2016 when he said that election was rigged even BEFORE it even took place.
and you stupid trumpsters have listened to it for so long you now believe it.
show up in court with a real case and I am sure it will be heard
and decided for good
have a nice day

 

[jpn]

That was seen in 2016 when the false claim was raised that Trump had conspired with Russia for his victory.
But yes, there are legitimate issues with massive mail in voting and how states handled 2020.
Or at least the protesters think there are. So they rioted to get their point across.
Whats the old saying? Oh yes "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery."
So don't be upset about the other day. Be flattered.

Yes, bad things happened last summer. Ransackings and beatings are pretty obviously things that should be condemned, regardless of whether they come from cops, looters, or protesters.

But those were unplanned, unled, and commonplace. They bear no comparison to this week’s events. This week’s rioters were acting at the behest of the president of the United States, who wanted them to overturn the results of a legal election and keep him in power. And it was defended not by miscellaneous bloggers and activists, but by members of Congress who thought it was a great idea to back the president in his attempt to keep power via violence.

It is sophistry of the first order to pretend that these two things have the slightest bit in common. The former is unfortunate but has no long-term impact at all. The latter is a direct assault on the workings of democracy by the leader of that democracy. Anyone who can’t tell them apart is either a cretin, a demagogue, or an insurrectionary. Take your pick.

 

[Hamish Howl]

Trump is not the one who should be impeached

sheez

all those millions of fake ballots...

the thugs "won" through thuggery

it was a coup

we are now officially a banana republic (no, worse). We were supposed to know better

It's hard to describe exactly how much schadenfreude I'm experiencing, watching you guys lose everything.

 

[Deuce]

Trump is not the one who should be impeached

sheez

all those millions of fake ballots...

the thugs "won" through thuggery

it was a coup

we are now officially a banana republic (no, worse). We were supposed to know better

I heard it was the lizard people in cahoots with the reverse vampires.

 

[Deuce]

All that the above says is "My guys can riot, but your guys can't."
Its untenable.

Your guys tried to overthrow democracy what the **** are you talking about a riot for?

 

[Deuce]

That was seen in 2016 when the false claim was raised that Trump had conspired with Russia for his victory.
But yes, there are legitimate issues with massive mail in voting and how states handled 2020.
Or at least the protesters think there are. So they rioted to get their point across.
Whats the old saying? Oh yes "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery."
So don't be upset about the other day. Be flattered.

Not protesters. Insurrectionists. Traitors.

Nobody cares about their precious little feelings. Aww, your gut tells you the election was stolen? Tough shit. You don’t get to steal an election just because you’re mad about losing, children.

 

[jpn]

It's hard to describe exactly how much schadenfreude I'm experiencing, watching you guys lose everything.

Yeah but you gotta give them credit. They are taking their losses with real grace and dignity.

 

[Deuce]

Yeah but you gotta give them credit. They are taking their losses with real grace and dignity.

I find it endlessly amusing that the people who spent four years saying “you lost, get over it” are so incapable of “getting over it” that they literally think they’re justified in treason.

They hitched everything, their identity, their entire worldview, to that orange dipshit and he got ****ing trounced by a margin never before seen in this country. Eight million more people wanted, of all candidates, Joe ****ing Biden to be president. Think about that. The most lukewarm, establishment poster boy of a Democrat we’ve seen in decades. And he SLAUGHTERED trump.

Imagine putting your whole heart into supporting someone and to have them lose like that.

I love it.

 

[SMTA]

they already did with their sham trial.

I'd rather see him tried, convicted, and shot for treason.

 

[Deuce]

I'd rather see him tried, convicted, and shot for treason.

Technically speaking Trump did reinstate execution by firing squad. Isn’t going to happen, but it would be awfully poetic.

Besides, I’d rather him get life in prison. A man used to luxury and excess to an obscene degree, used to having everyone around him constantly reinforce just how great he is. (Because he fires anyone who doesn’t) A man who is so narcissistic he honestly doesn’t believe he has done anything wrong. That man finding himself behind bars, three cheap ass meals a day thanks to people thinking prisons should be run like a business. Prison guards who couldn’t give a rats ass if he keeled over and died. A man used to getting anything he wants suddenly finding himself not even able to go outside without permission.

 

[jpn]

I agree we need to end the di

Legally preventing Trump from ever running again is more than enough reason to continue with impeachment even if he leaves office.

Oh, and there's this: If a president is impeached, convicted, and removed from office, they lose many of the benefits awarded to former presidents, such as a pension, security detail, office space, government-paid staff, and travel allowance. A president who is removed from office via impeachment may also be barred from holding future office.

 

[SMTA]

Technically speaking Trump did reinstate execution by firing squad. Isn’t going to happen, but it would be awfully poetic.

Besides, I’d rather him get life in prison. A man used to luxury and excess to an obscene degree, used to having everyone around him constantly reinforce just how great he is. (Because he fires anyone who doesn’t) A man who is so narcissistic he honestly doesn’t believe he has done anything wrong. That man finding himself behind bars, three cheap ass meals a day thanks to people thinking prisons should be run like a business. Prison guards who couldn’t give a rats ass if he keeled over and died. A man used to getting anything he wants suddenly finding himself not even able to go outside without permission.

I like the way that you think

 

[Buckeyes85]

I agree we need to end the di

Oh, and there's this: If a president is impeached, convicted, and removed from office, they lose many of the benefits awarded to former presidents, such as a pension, security detail, office space, government-paid staff, and travel allowance. A president who is removed from office via impeachment may also be barred from holding future office.

Correct but with the republicans controlling the senate until Trump is gone and the new senators are sworn in, I don't see how he can be "removed" via impeachment and as you mentioned, only those convicted and removed lose those benefits.

 

[Athanasius68]

Yes, bad things happened last summer. Ransackings and beatings are pretty obviously things that should be condemned, regardless of whether they come from cops, looters, or protesters.

But those were unplanned, unled, and commonplace. They bear no comparison to this week’s events. This week’s rioters were acting at the behest of the president of the United States, who wanted them to overturn the results of a legal election and keep him in power. And it was defended not by miscellaneous bloggers and activists, but by members of Congress who thought it was a great idea to back the president in his attempt to keep power via violence.

It is sophistry of the first order to pretend that these two things have the slightest bit in common. The former is unfortunate but has no long-term impact at all. The latter is a direct assault on the workings of democracy by the leader of that democracy. Anyone who can’t tell them apart is either a cretin, a demagogue, or an insurrectionary. Take your pick.

The events of the summer proved successful to a large degree.
People were elected to office, issues became mainstream and debated seriously.
Shouldn't be surprised when other people adopt the same tactics to push for what they want.
All you are doing is saying My guys can riot and your guys can't.

 

[Athanasius68]

Nobody cares about their precious little feelings. Aww, your gut tells you the election was stolen? Tough shit. You don’t get to steal an election just because you’re mad about losing, children.

Hey-- that's fine. Fir enough.
Doesn't change the fact lots of people think the election was stolen.

 

[jpn]

Correct but with the republicans controlling the senate until Trump is gone and the new senators are sworn in, I don't see how he can be "removed" via impeachment and as you mentioned, only those convicted and removed lose those benefits.

I just saw a suggestion that congress simply pass a law that says any president who incites insurrection forfeits their ex-presidency benefits. That would require nothing more than a straightforward majority vote.

 

[jpn]

All you are doing is saying My guys can riot and your guys can't.

No, I'm saying peaceful protests to draw attention to police violence is different from explicit plans and actions to violently overrun the nation's capitol in order to overturn an election.

 

[jpn]

Doesn't change the fact lots of people think the election was stolen.

Oh, okay, then we should excuse the attempted coup. Bygones and all that. Time to "heal."