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Trump can boss, he can't lead

JackA

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Trump’s childish spats with governors have revealed perhaps more clearly than anything else in his Presidency his unfitness to lead. The governor of Michigan, “that woman”, has seen supplies from the federal government held up because the President felt she “wasn’t nice”. He’s lashed out at Cuomo and the governor of Washington when a leader would have quietly put up with their frustrations, or answered them civilly whether or not he felt the criticisms unfair. One effect of this has been to exacerbate the divisiveness in the country, as his supporters join with him in his attacks, when a deadly common threat should be a cause of unity.

Trump knows how to be a boss. He doesn't know how to lead.
 

It takes two to tango.

Hold those governors responsible for their actions.
 

Why do you need a leader? You can't think for yourself?
 
Mycroft said:
It takes two to tango.

Hold those governors responsible for their actions.
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Just like the people are going to hold Trump responsible for all his actions for the past 3 1/2 years. By voting him out of office in November.

Is that what you meant?
 
apdst said:
Why do you need a leader? You can't think for yourself?
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The country needs a leader. We haven't had one for the past 3 1/2 years.

We've had an impetuous, egoistic, child in office causing chaos everywhere he goes.
 
JackA said:
You make my point.
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No I didn't. Your point had nothing to do with holding those governors responsible for their actions.
 
hermit said:
The country needs a leader. We haven't had one for the past 3 1/2 years.

We've had an impetuous, egoistic, child in office causing chaos everywhere he goes.
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You can't think for yourself? Why do you desire to be lead so bad?

What have you done to contribute to the country diring this crisis? Besides bitch about Trump and no, that isn't a contribution.
 
hermit said:
Just like the people are going to hold Trump responsible for all his actions for the past 3 1/2 years. By voting him out of office in November.

Is that what you meant?
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Nope.

What part of "Hold those governors responsible for their actions." do you not understand?
 
apdst said:
Why do you need a leader? You can't think for yourself?
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I personally don't need a leader though from the perceptiveness level of your post I suspect you do.
 
JackA said:
I personally don't need a leader though from the perceptiveness level of your post I suspect you do.
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You're the one crying about not being led. Not me. Obviously I'm onto something since you immediately launched into a personal attack. That's the first sign that a Liberal knows his argument has gone to ****.
 
JackA said:
You make my point.
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Your point was what ... that Trump should keep quiet when he gets blamed for what someone else did or didn't do?
I understand that's what you'd want ... but do you think you should expect something of Trump you'd never expect of yourself or others?
 

There is a lot of childishness going around across the board eg whether Trump is a racist because he calls it the Chinese virus. Or the standard critics of Mr. Trump who say that he should have basically shut the country down in January (during the middle of an impeachment inquiry and trial - as if that would have been uncontroversial).

BUT-- Trump has pointed out, correctly, that the country is a federal republic and that the role of the feds is to support the states in their efforts to deal with the problem. There can certainly be grounds for criticism in how Trump has dealt with it (I don't see the point in the states and feds getting into a bidding war over medical supplies).
But some of the stuff is wrong and quite worthy of pushback by Mr. Trump (Mr. Biden having called the closing of travelling from China Xenophobic, or Mr. Cuomo declining to purchase additional ventilators when he had the opportunity).
 
Mycroft said:
No I didn't. Your point had nothing to do with holding those governors responsible for their actions.
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By which you mean childish rants against them for complaining about the federal response. You did make the point. Trump is incapable of accepting even the slightest criticism. He's even incapable of being called less than the very best. He has the emotional maturity of an infant.
 
he can bully painters, carpenters and plumbers.



he can't lead a nation.
 

Its not childishness to point out that Gov Cuomo declined to purchase ventilators when he had the opportunity or that NYC hospitals had been shutdown.
Its called that Gov Cuomo ought be held politically accountable for his actions.

The true source of the problem is that over the past few decades, the USA in a bipartisan fashion have offshored American industry to China.
Including the production of medical supplies.
One of the more ironical situation here is that Mr. Trump has long been a critic of the policies that have led to this state of affairs.
 
apdst said:
You can't think for yourself? Why do you desire to be lead so bad?

What have you done to contribute to the country diring this crisis? Besides bitch about Trump and no, that isn't a contribution.
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Again, the country needs a leader.

And what have YOU done to contribute to the country during this crisis? Two can play that game.

You don't know what anyone is real life is doing to help in this crisis so why not do yourself a favor and practice the "silence is golden" rule.
 
bubbabgone said:
Your point was what ... that Trump should keep quiet when he gets blamed for what someone else did or didn't do?
I understand that's what you'd want ... but do you think you should expect something of Trump you'd never expect of yourself or others?
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Yes, he should ignore it, like any rational adult would do. Only a child hasn't learned to let things roll off his back.

If I complained every time someone at work blamed me, or dissed me or laughed at me, I'd never get anything done, so you're incorrect in assuming what I would expect of myself. And I expect the POTUS to be more adept at this than I am.
 
Its interesting that you are unwilling to extend the same courtesy of understanding to Trump as you do to Cuomo. Isnt Trump under enormous pressure too?

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Yep, learn the two rules of living a stress free life:

Rule #1: Don't sweat the small stuff.

Rule #2: It's almost all small stuff.
 
trouble13 said:
Its interesting that you are unwilling to extend the same courtesy of understanding to Trump as you do to Cuomo. Isnt Trump under enormous pressure too?

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If he can't handle the pressure without acting like a 10 year old spoiled brat, then he is unfit to be POTUS.
 
trouble13 said:
Its interesting that you are unwilling to extend the same courtesy of understanding to Trump as you do to Cuomo. Isnt Trump under enormous pressure too?

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He is under enormous pressure, yes, and he's showing his temperamental inability to deal with it like a President.
 
-Trump has taken the bull by the horns big time on this one when this first started.

-Obama took MONTHS before he acted when Swine Flu and H1N1, both FAR WORSE and both FAR MORE contagious and deadly than the COVID-19, went through our country, with a death toll MUCH HIGHER in a shorter amount of time than COVID-19.

-Trump is holding daily briefings on what the status is on this virus and far it has gone.

-Obama found it more important to picking his teams for March Madness than to take action against the virus's during his time in office.

-Trump is actually trying to put money back into the economy by giving laid off workers and small businesses checks to keep going and pay off bills or buy supplies.

-Obama's "stimulus" package bailed out big business and big banks, while unemployment was continuing to skyrocket.

-Trump has been working with doctors to try and come up with medication for COVID-19 and authorized to get people treated so the epidemic recede,s and finally stops.

-Obama went on an apology tour, talking about how bad our nation and how unfair we are to the rest of the world, but talked himself up as if he was God.

-Trump allowed state governments, whether or not he agreed with them, to manage their own situations.

-Obama penalized people who didn't buy health insurance, either through the "market place" or on their own.

-Trump is taking steps to get the economy up and running again by working with officials and allowing businesses, big or small, to open their doors again and get people back to work.

-Obama told workers that their jobs were going overseas and never coming back, effectively shutting down businesses permanently, all the while touting 1% GDP growth was going to be the new norm for our country.

-Trump is leading from the front and is making difficult decisions in order for our country to get back to what it was before all this, a booming economy, higher wages, and very low unemployment.

-Obama threw the little guy under the bus and went against common sense, and put our people and others around the world at risk, like the Iran Nuclear Deal, gun running in Syria, and Operation Fast And Furious.

Admittedly, this new stimulus package is not my go to because people will try and take advantage of this, in addition to it being temporary, but given the circumstances, it was probably the right thing to do for people that own a business and employees that got laid off. It's a risk, but if this does get people back on their feet and helps them get back to work, let's do it. This is what leadership is suppose to be, and Trump is doing the job proper. I just hope it works the way people are hoping that it's suppose to.

Obama wasn't even doing the job. It was nothing more than a glorified superstar position for him to fuel his ego. The stuff he wanted and got done, he never thought any of it through, the risks and consequences. The stuff that NEEDED to be done, he put it off, like taking out Osama Bin Laden and the Swine flu. Most of the time, it was him going on prime time shows and hanging out with other celebrities. He didn't do much as far as press conferences. When he did, the media tossed him nonsense questions and their unending praise of the guy. Say what you want about Trump, but the guy gets tough questions and all sorts of criticism. Obama got NONE of that from the media, except from conservative outlets (which are extremely few), hence he was able to get away with whatever he wanted. He was no leader, and anyone that thought he was is foolish. It's true that he was our president, but titles can only get you so far. Trump is being the leader we need right now.
 

Really?
You wouldn't defend yourself at work if you got blamed for someone else's screwup?
 
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