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Trump Calls Congressional Inquiry a ‘Witch Hunt’

Sure, this is Trump saying that he is not scared, if he did not tweet it no one would ever know, because it does not conform to the agenda of the so-called journalists so they would squash the information.

Just pointing out that a few "so called journalists" are covering this tweet.

Trump seems very scared to me. He's lashing out in a paranoid way like Nixon.
 
So if he continues on with lying, it is ok with you.



Wow.

I say and have said for over a year that Trump is the most honest politician to come down the pike in a very long time.

I reject your claim.
 
Just pointing out that a few "so called journalists" are covering this tweet.

Trump seems very scared to me. He's lashing out in a paranoid way like Nixon.

That means that you dont understand Trump.

There is a very big club of you people.
 
I say and have said for over a year that Trump is the most honest politician to come down the pike in a very long time.

I reject your claim.

You are welcome to your opinion that flies in the face of facts.
 
That means that you dont understand Trump.

There is a very big club of you people.

How well do you know him? All I have to go on are his tweets and the official explanations of what he really meant.
 
A system which trump and his congressional toady Nunes are undermining by derailing the congressional investigation.

Congress never should have launched an investigation because no crimes have even been alleged, it is a fishing expedition because the elite are in a hurry to expell the parasite, and they figured this was their best chance of coming up with a good cover story.

So far they are failing.


NOTE: I am not agreeing with your assertion that any investigation has been undermined, I am claiming that to date we know of nothing in need of investigating, so nothing should be happening in a Congressional investigation. If one has been stopped then we are getting closer to conducting ourselves well.
 
Reports are that immunity has been denied, which probably means Flynn says nothing because seeing as how not a shred of evidence of a crime has been found there is nothing in it for him.
We don't know what the DOJ or the FBI has on him. I suspect it's substantial enough to charge him.

And with your new info concerning the Feds' rejection of immunity, this is pretty much as I predicted then.

They'll lean on him and cut a deal, only after they believe they've got everything they want and he's willing to testify on record and/or in court for them. No different really than basic lower-level criminal cases in Chicago or anywhere else.

I'm virtually positive Flynn is dirty on something, though how it relates to Trump and his campaign is T.B.D. At the very least, I think it's likely Pence and/or Trump knew about his illegal behaviour and covered it up, which will result in a political black eye for Trump.

But there's always the possibility it's something more, though I can't say for sure I see that with Flynn. If that ever were to come, I suspect it will be from Manafort, and may indeed have dire consequences for the administration.
 
Trump is far from the President I want, but the soundness of the system matters more than any one result, and if we get to the point that the results of elections are over-turned because those who run the system decide that the people picked badly then it is good night nurse.


EDIT: Those who are bitching about Trump being Trump should instead focus their energy on fixing the reasons that We the People decided to sent a Trump to Washington, which of course they are not, instead we continual diversions AKA excuses for them choosing to continue to refuse to do their work.

We sent OBAMA, who refused to do what we sent him to do.

We sent a Trump who so far almost every elite is focused on ignoring him and then throwing him out of town.

Maybe next time we send someone like a PUTIN, because this **** has to stop.

The Russians are being looked at for the reason Trump ran AND won. It now appears they instigated him to run as well committing criminal acts to help him win. Half of Trump Tower is owned by Russians. Putin is a Imperialist heading a country of oligarchs. His people are rebelling and his days are numbered.

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I read the other day that Comey wanted to come out with some of this before the election, but the Obama white house told him not to. They said that without it being formal process, it would not be a good thing to do. I can find it if you want, but coming out early on something this big and this serious, I think would be a mistake for any professional. I think we the public and through the press, are the ones in a sense doing our own unclassified "investigation" of this, and that's what you're seeing. This occurs for a lot of reasons, good and bad. But I think the most important reason we should be OK with it, is that it keeps pressure and visibility high on what amounts to be a potentially HUGE issue of national security that may go all the way to Trump. Normally we'd say "all the way to the WH", but with Flynn in hot water, that looks to be forgone conclusion. Yes, the actual legal process has to be done correctly and its a slow process. And the very LAST thing they shoudl prematurely release would be any criminal information...that should come through a charge first, and discussion later. So you won't seek that info until they have enough information to convince the right folks that a case could be made and won. Then they go public.


Can I first say that I am really enjoying this discussion and debate, you have been very fair and respectful and wish many debates happen like this rather than name calling and just down right disrespect. THANK YOU!.


Ok to continue on. I did read that.....as well about Comey wanting to come out. The interesting part was..... HRC was getting blasted by Trump on the Server, Bama knew about the investigation, HRC Im sure knew about the investigation. It would have put the voting process on equal footing no? If there really was a potential. I wonder if the investigation again "good news" but no substance is why they didnt want to take a chance as yes, it would be a bad move professionally and politically. HRC was getting nailed for actual proof of a private server, There still does not seem to be any actual proof of collusion.


Yes yes yes, "The Court of Public Opinion" is what is really going on, 100% agree. Good and bad totally agree, I agree on the merits that it keeps it in the light, the bad is that opinions get throw around so much that it begins to muddy the actual substance of the investigation. I keep asking, was there any CRIMINAL act, as I have yet to read one. I just read that, So and so did dealings with Russia, So an so spoke to a Russian bank, so and so said Russia. Are any of these actions illegal. and every time the media reports, its jut interaction with no criminal action, that is what bothers me, this again goes back to the term "Witch Hunt" which generically speaking... it is.


As for leaking and all this sources crap... this is half the reason why stuff cant get done... What ever happened to the real secret investigations when nothing was leaked and it was done right, Never knew a FBI director that spoke more in public than just staying in the Shadows and doing their shadowy job LOL!


Again though I do want to show my appreciation for such an awesome cordial respectful debate =)
 
I think that's an important distinction. Tweeting in general is inappropriate.
Tweeting on legal matters of this importance to the nation...bringing politics into legal process, Nixonian indeed.
Exactly.

And it's Tweeting on legal matters by a superior to the subordinates in charge of handling the matter, when the matter involves an individual appointed by the superior and perhaps leads back to the superior himself!

We gotta start calling this stuff (objectively) as it is! :doh
 
Senator: No doubt whatsoever Russia interfered - CNN Video

Senator King: Intel Committee member Sen. Angus King said Friday there was "no doubt whatsoever that the Russians were behind the effort to interfere with our election."
"To deny that flies in the face of reality. This is not a witch hunt, its an effort to get to the truth of some very important questions."
Source: CNN
 
How well do you know him? All I have to go on are his tweets and the official explanations of what he really meant.

Well enough that I came out of almost 20 years of political interest semi retirement to support Trump on 9.10.15 after having watched him for three weeks. Also while I am not sure I ever stated it here I decided Dec 2015 that he was going to win the nomination. I was wrong about the general though, the day before I gave him only 10% chance of winning. When I looked over the reports on the exit polling I like Ivanka decided that he had lost. When the votes started coming in and I saw that the polling was yet again wrong after wallowing in despair for about 90 minutes, and then as a Trump win became more and more a sure thing was surely one of the best 50 nights of my life, not least because the elite who had done the polling had egg all over their faces.

I have been so often right about Trump because I know Trump. There is zero chance that Trump ever participated by himself or in conjunction with anyone else to undermine the integrity of the electoral system.

That is not who he is.
 
We don't know what the DOJ or the FBI has on him. I suspect it's substantial enough to charge him.

And with your new info concerning the Feds' rejection of immunity, this is pretty much as I predicted then.

They'll lean on him and cut a deal, only after they believe they've got everything they want and he's willing to testify on record and/or in court for them. No different really than basic lower-level criminal cases in Chicago or anywhere else.

I'm virtually positive Flynn is dirty on something, though how it relates to Trump and his campaign is T.B.D. At the very least, I think it's likely Pence and/or Trump knew about his illegal behaviour and covered it up, which will result in a political black eye for Trump.

But there's always the possibility it's something more, though I can't say for sure I see that with Flynn. If that ever were to come, I suspect it will be from Manafort, and may indeed have dire consequences for the administration.

Flynn is a cowboy, there is a chance that he did something illegal, but I would be shocked if any of it had anything to do with Trump doing bad, or knowing that bad was being done.

Manafort who knows, he was barely there, Trump did not like him enough to keep him. I am not going to be blaming Trump for anything Manafort did without direct evidence that Trump did something wrong.
 
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Well enough that I came out of almost 20 years of political interest semi retirement to support Trump on 9.10.15 after having watched him for three weeks. Also while I am not sure I ever stated it here I decided Dec 2015 that he was going to win the nomination. I was wrong about the general though, the day before I gave him only 10% chance of winning. When I looked over the reports on the exit polling I like Ivanka decided that he had lost. When the votes started coming in and I saw that the polling was yet again wrong after wallowing in despair for about 90 minutes, and then as a Trump win became more and more a sure thing was surely one of the best 50 nights of my life, not least because the elite who had done the polling had egg all over their faces.

I have been so often right about Trump because I know Trump. There is zero chance that Trump ever participated by himself or in conjunction with anyone else to undermine the integrity of the electoral system.

That is not who he is.
You are one phunny dude.
 
I read the other day that Comey wanted to come out with some of this before the election, but the Obama white house told him not to. They said that without it being formal process, it would not be a good thing to do. I can find it if you want, but coming out early on something this big and this serious, I think would be a mistake for any professional. I think we the public and through the press, are the ones in a sense doing our own unclassified "investigation" of this, and that's what you're seeing. This occurs for a lot of reasons, good and bad. But I think the most important reason we should be OK with it, is that it keeps pressure and visibility high on what amounts to be a potentially HUGE issue of national security that may go all the way to Trump. Normally we'd say "all the way to the WH", but with Flynn in hot water, that looks to be forgone conclusion. Yes, the actual legal process has to be done correctly and its a slow process. And the very LAST thing they should prematurely release would be any criminal information...that should come through a charge first, and discussion later. So you won't see that info until they have enough information to convince the right folks that a case could be made and won. Then they go public.
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Exactly!

We are beginning to see the Fourth Estate become an effective functional entity again, as it was back in Nixon's day - and that's a good thing! Confer "All the President's Men".

How many things did Trump deny and attack the media for, only to have journalistic investigation and/or leaks cause Trump to walk everything back as evidence of his lies came out!

As we can see, up 'till now we see the GOP will not do due diligence for the People by properly investigating Trump; reference Diven Nunes! But the media constant drip-drip revelations are doing the job in providing political force to a government hellbent on cover-up and collusion.

There's no rationalizing with the core die-hard Trump contingent. They'll follow him to prison, as the Nixon faithful were willing to do. But there are some moderate principled Trump supporters that dislike him and his ways, but out of desperation for change they held their noses while voting for him. This describes some of my friends and family members. Those are the voters that may peel-off if this continues to get deeper. One can only hope.
 
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Exactly!

We are beginning to see the Fourth Estate become an effective functional entity again, as it was back in Nixon's day - and that's a good thing! Confer "All the President's Men".

How many things did Trump deny and attack the media for, only to have journalistic investigation and/or leaks cause Trump to walk everything back as evidence of his lies came out!

As we can see, up 'till now we see the GOP will not do due diligence for the People by properly investigating Trump; reference Diven Nunes! But the media constant drip-drip revelations are doing the job in providing political force to a government hellbent on cover-up and collusion.

There's no rationalizing with the core die-hard Trump contingent. They'll follow him to prison, as the Nixon faithful were willing to do. But there are some moderate principled Trump supporters that dislike him and his ways, but out of desperation for change they held their noses while voting for him. This describes some of my friends and family members. Those are the voters that may peel-off if this continues to get deeper. One can only hope.

They live to be part of the next Watergate, that is the so-called journalists best wet dream, and they imagine that they have it.

I think they are wrong, but that they are not above inventing one if it gets the parasite out of town.
 
Flynn is a cowboy, there is a chance that he did something illegal, but I would be shocked if any of it had anything to do with Trump doing bad, or knowing that bad was being done.

Manafort who knows, he was barely there, Trump did not like him enough to keep him. I am not going to be blaming Trump for anything Manafort did without direct evidence that Trump did something wrong.
That's reasonable, fair, and I can respect it.

And remember I'm saying, "*if* anyone can bring Trump down - it's Manafort". It's an *if*. I do believe Manafort is seriously dirty though, and did nefariously collaborate with Putin. But that does not mean Trump was necessarily involved.

Trump's problem is he surrounded himself with questionable characters doing illegitimate or questionable acts. Whether by bad luck, or intent. The last is what we need to find out, because the stakes are unfathomable!
 
Give him his immunity and lets hear what he has to say.

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They live to be part of the next Watergate, that is the so-called journalists best wet dream, and they imagine that they have it.
I think they are wrong, but that they are not above inventing one if it gets the parasite out of town.

It is fascinating that you could believe, even before these investigations are done, that you think it's more likely the entire government apparatus minus a few Trump related people, could orchestrate an incredibly large and widespread clandestine effort to undermine the president, even before he was elected (considering few thought he would be anyway!), based on ZERO evidence.

But you ARE willing to believe that Trump is 100% innocent of all wrong doing, REGARDLESS of the evidence - even before the evidence is in or not!

That is a sure sign that you believe based on FAITH, and not reason. You are entitled to your faith, its' just literally not reasonable...
 
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Say three more prayers on bended knee to your illuminated Trump altar.

Daddy will heal you.

He says to one of DP's premier free speech free mind guys, member of the TTT (Truth Tellers Tribe), Zen socialist, formerly self described as a radical, fierce advocate for justice and the Arena for the full and fair combat of ideas.....

My mind bends the knee for no one, as any fool can plainly see.
 
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They live to be part of the next Watergate, that is the so-called journalists best wet dream, and they imagine that they have it.

I think they are wrong, but that they are not above inventing one if it gets the parasite out of town.
Well, we did once have a long drawn-out debate concerning polls, where we didn't agree. And yes, Trump did eventually beat the polls. It was complicated, but it did indeed happen as you (and Micheal Moore) predicted. So I'm surely not going to ignore your thoughts, here!
 
Odd Trump sees the investigations being LEAD BY REPUBLICANS are a dem/media witch hunt... :confused:

Because they did lose, they being the establishment and he's messing with their world order and that they cannot have.
 
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