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Trump attacks DeSantis.

LetsGoBrandon said:
I see you are still primarily addicted to opinion polls. Most of those polls are weighted and in 2016 gave Trump a 16% chance of victory, all the way to election night.

But then the democrats did nominate a horrible candidate in 2020, even if he did alledgedly win. Anyone who is not a complete idiot by now is well aware of Joe Biden's serious cognitive decline and the sudden discovery of classified document stashes is probably connected to their hoping to avoid him running again in 2024.
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Yes, the polls showed Hillary Clinton winning the popular vote which she did. They were off by 1.1 points which is within the MOE of plus or minus 3 points. They were correct when it came to the popular vote.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/e...rump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-5952.html

Electoral vote wise -

 
LetsGoBrandon said:
Anyone who is not a complete idiot by now is well aware of Joe Biden's serious cognitive decline and the sudden discovery of classified document stashes is probably connected to their hoping to avoid him running again in 2024.
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Still better than Trump.
 
LetsGoBrandon said:
Odd claim considering that Trump garnered millions more votes in 2020 then he did in 2016. The oddity was Loco-Joe garnering over 80 million votes without no down ticket advantage to the democrats in congress. That is what does not pass the smell test.
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I suspect that for some the vote for Biden in 2020 was a Not Trump vote. Hence the 80 million total.
 
Perotista said:
Yes, the polls showed Hillary Clinton winning the popular vote which she did. They were off by 1.1 points which is within the MOE of plus or minus 3 points. They were correct when it came to the popular vote.
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We have been over this before, however it was never just about the popular vote. Those giving Trump a 16% chance were taking in state by state polls as well.
 
btthegreat said:
I have totally seen the light on DT. Actually, I know longer care what comes out of Trump's mouth any more, I just want him to keep opening it and talking and talking and talking and I want the American media to cover what this presumptive Republican nominee has to say!! Its their responsibility to fully cover his rallies, his tweets, his speeches, and facebook contributions

Let the man be heard!!!!
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Everything Trump says is a rehash of his 2016-2020 shtick. There's nothing new to learn, apart from his continued decline.
 
LetsGoBrandon said:
2020 is the only year in your list that matters as that is the race Loco-Joe ran in and allegedly garnered over 80 million votes......and again no downticket advantage to democrats.
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No "alleged" votes to it. Trump lost.. . 😁
 
Roger Duke said:
If I was a Democrat I would be celebrating too. All of my Republican friends are ready to move on from Trump but he still has enough supporters to cause a big division in the party. And it is unfolding pretty clearly right now.
But before you celebrate, look at your own party. Will you run a guy who can't even tie his own shoes? Will you run his affirmation action VP who knows how to tie shoes but has no common sense and is an embarrassment to her party? Or, will you dump both of them and maybe go with an AOC/Fetterman ticket?
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Promoting an AOC/Fetterman ticket makes a lot more sense than another Biden/Harris ticket.
The Dems hopefuls, including pretty boy Newsom, are waiting on the sidelines for Biden to wake up and realize he can't run again.
 
Buckeyes85 said:
No, the problem is not to overestimate Trumpers; presuming they can't be that stupid, again can they? And then being proven wrong. Thankfully, enough Americans learned the error of their way from 2016 and made sure it was not repeated.
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This. His devoted cultists comprise about a third of the GOP voting bloc, and establishment Republicans are scared shitless at the thought of upsetting them.

Best case scenario for America is Trump loses the GOP primary and in a tantrum worthy of a toddler runs independent, splitting the Red State vote.
 
LetsGoBrandon said:
If not for Trump garnering millions more votes in 2020 then he did in 2016, I would agree.
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imo, there was a great interest in the 2020 election that attracted new voters.
You should be proud the election drew the numbers it did. Or would you have preferred a low turnout with many people who could vote electing not to participate.

I for one am not buying the Trump line of well I got more votes in 2020 than I did in 2016. That does not mean you win an election.
 
LetsGoBrandon said:
Depends on your scale. Trump garnered millions more votes in 2020 then he did in 2016. Do the math. He did not lose support, he gained support.

And you think Loco-Joe has no political baggage? Have you been paying much attention to the news in the last few weeks?
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Once again, "LetsGoBrandon" - who claims he isn't Trumpian - continues to promote Trump's election fraud scam.
If it will help, I will personally send Trump a note praising you for your continued support. Maybe then, you can cease with the election fraud nonsense.
 
mike2810 said:
imo, there was a great interest in the 2020 election that attracted new voters.
You should be proud the election drew the numbers it did. Or would you have preferred a low turnout with many people who could vote electing not to participate.

I for one am not buying the Trump line of well I got more votes in 2020 than I did in 2016. That does not mean you win an election.
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Not when your words and actions during your time in office proved so inpalatable to people that they'd vote for Ham Sandwich just to see you tossed out on your ass.
 
Lycanthrope said:
This. His devoted cultists comprise about a third of the GOP voting bloc, and establishment Republicans are scared shitless at the thought of upsetting them.

Best case scenario for America is Trump loses the GOP primary and in a tantrum worthy of a toddler runs independent, splitting the Red State vote.
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Agreed on that last point but I think a Trump run deep into the primary will have much the same effect for the reasons stated: whomever wins the RNC nomination will have made mortal enemies of so many Trumper that they just won't turn out to vote for them in November. Only takes a million or 2 to change the outcome.
 
LetsGoBrandon said:
If not for Trump garnering millions more votes in 2020 then he did in 2016, I would agree.
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No relevance whatsoever. Voting totals change from election to election.
Trump had four years to sicken enough people to vote him out. No continued amount of whining like some adolescent "cry baby" will change that.
 
mike2810 said:
imo, there was a great interest in the 2020 election that attracted new voters.
You should be proud the election drew the numbers it did. Or would you have preferred a low turnout with many people who could vote electing not to participate.
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There were more voters, though I don't buy the "more interest" angle. Biden does not have the charisma to outpace his old boss Obama in that way. The more votes came from a ramped up rush to unsecure mass mailout balloting in several states.
mike2810 said:
I for one am not buying the Trump line of well I got more votes in 2020 than I did in 2016. That does not mean you win an election.
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No, however the number of voites he did get is usually enough to win, and yes it was more then he garnered in 2016. However I am only bringing it up against those who claim that 2020 was an anti-Trump vote. If it had been,he should have fallen off in votes.
 
LetsGoBrandon said:
There were more voters, though I don't buy the "more interest" angle. Biden does not have the charisma to outpace his old boss Obama in that way. The more votes came from a ramped up rush to unsecure mass mailout balloting in several states.

No, however the number of voites he did get is usually enough to win, and yes it was more then he garnered in 2016. However I am only bringing it up against those who claim that 2020 was an anti-Trump vote. If it had been,he should have fallen off in votes.
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Mail ballots are secure. You've been lied to.
 
mike2810 said:
Yep. One reason I stated that some of Biden's votes were a not Trump vote.
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Mine most definitely was. I would have voted for Arnold Ziffel over Trump.
At least Arnold is a legitimate pig instead of a poor excuse for a human acting like a pig.
 
LetsGoBrandon said:
If not for Trump garnering millions more votes in 2020 then he did in 2016, I would agree.
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Since you seem to think there were a significant number of fraudulent votes cast in 2020, and thus far just about the only fraud that has been uncovered was committed by republicans, how do you know Trump really got more votes in 2020 than he did in 2016?
 
Showtime586 said:
Once again, "LetsGoBrandon" - who claims he isn't Trumpian - continues to promote Trump's election fraud scam.
If it will help, I will personally send Trump a note praising you for your continued support. Maybe then, you can cease with the election fraud nonsense.
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I would send Biden a not about your support, but I doubt he still has the cognitive ability to understand it.
 
LetsGoBrandon said:
I would send Biden a not about your support, but I doubt he still has the cognitive ability to understand it.
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I will use single syllable words, so Trump can understand mine.
Of course, mine will be addressed to "Ex-President Trump". ...lmao
 
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