Trump airliner crash speech: Is any politician more needy, vindictive, racist, or dishonest than Trump?

[Kelby]

Minorities and women can't possibly be qualified, can they?

Women have a saying: Women have to be twice as good as men to get half the credit. Fortunately, that's not too hard.

 

[ElChupacabra]

Or the four years before that, or the four years before that. In fact you have to go back to the Asiana Airlines crash in San Francisco in 2013 for an airline disaster of this magnitude.

Cool. So if we assume Biden had the FAA focus on DEI and there were no crashes, then we can start ruling it out as being a relevant talking point.

 

[Sabre]

Or the four years before that, or the four years before that. In fact you have to go back to the Asiana Airlines crash in San Francisco in 2013 for an airline disaster of this magnitude.

Are we saying that was Obamas fault?

 

[Linc]

I'm sorry but is George Conway an aka for Trump?

spurs is a kkkoward inserting DEI.

 

[post]

its odd

on this forum, unlike any other, I can literally say something and posters respond back with JUST THE OPPOSITE

its fascinating - its like an incredible echo chamber and a large group here simply doesn't read/listen ??? its a phenomena like none I've encountered before

You get to experience almost in real time, how Ill-informed you are because here you are dealing with posters ready for your talking points,

Example, Sen. Durbin asked Patel this morning if he agreed with Trump pardoning all 1,600.
Patel deflected with Biden pardoned a murderer who killed two FBI agents.

Sen. Durbin replied in an instant, the man was imprisoned 45 years, he is 80 years old. he is confined to house arrest. Durbin only omitted that the murderer had been eligible for parole since 1993.

Sen. Durbin then said. “You’re not going to answer the question.”

 

[Bodecea]

spurs is a kkkoward inserting DEI.

The only acceptable DEI is the old style DEI for mediocre white men according to the rapey felon.

 

[hecatmoggie]

its clear liberals want to ignore the articles posted, what the FAA were doing with DEI ..... and like I said, I doubt it had any impact on this event BUT it absolutely could have impacts IF people were hired not on their merit but by their race/gender/skin color/sexual preferences and that is what DEI did

read the articles

I'm out on this one - all ya'll want to do is name call and use emoji's and ignore the discussion ....

 

[Bodecea]

its clear liberals want to ignore the articles posted, what the FAA were doing with DEI ..... and like I said, I doubt it had any impact on this event BUT it absolutely could have impacts IF people were hired not on their merit but by their race/gender/skin color/sexual preferences and that is what DEI did

read the articles

I'm out on this one - all ya'll want to do is name call and use emoji's and ignore the discussion ....

So, show us with evidence that any woman, minority or handicapped person hired by the FAA was unqualified.

 

[Felis Leo]

Are we saying that was Obamas fault?

I would say yes. We have supreme executive control invested in the office of the Presidency. Everything that happens under a president watch and within their purview (which is extremely expansive) is the president’s fault. If you have singular ultimate power over a system, any system, then everything that occurs within that system whether positive or negative is ultimately your responsibility. So, assuming that particular crash was a failure of air traffic control, that crash was ultimately Obama’s fault. And this one is Trump’s fault, since this is his FAA and his DoD.

 

[Geoist]

its odd

on this forum, unlike any other, I can literally say something and posters respond back with JUST THE OPPOSITE

its fascinating - its like an incredible echo chamber and a large group here simply doesn't read/listen ??? its a phenomena like none I've encountered before

Your assumption is the FAA is hiring minorities who are unqualified. An unsubstantiated claim.

 

[Bodecea]

I would say yes. We have supreme executive control invested in the office of the Presidency. Everything that happens under a president watch and within their purview (which is extremely expansive) is the president’s fault. If you have singular ultimate power over a system, any system, then everything that occurs within that system whether positive or negative is ultimately your responsibility. So, assuming that particular crash was a failure of air traffic control, that crash was ultimately Obama’s fault. And this one is Trump’s fault, since this is his FAA and his DoD.

Something we will NEVER EVER see on the rapey felon's desk.

 

[eman623]

Cool. So if we assume Biden had the FAA focus on DEI and there were no crashes, then we can start ruling it out as being a relevant talking point.

People can do anything they want.

But I don't think any possible DEI hires at the FAA introduced by Biden over four years magically disappeared just because Biden left office. Seems to me they would still be there now.

 

[Luce]

People can do anything they want.

But I don't think any possible DEI hires at the FAA introduced by Biden over four years magically disappeared just because Biden left office. Seems to me they would still be there now.

Who was the responsible controller?

 

[eman623]

Are we saying that was Obamas fault?

Are we using "we" as a placeholder for "you"?

People can say anything they want. We have freedom of speech here.

 

[Bodecea]

Are we using "we" as a placeholder for "you"?

People can say anything they want. We have freedom of speech here.

Just like we can all just ask questions, right?

 

[Bok Tuklo]

But I don't think any possible DEI hires at the FAA introduced by Biden over four years magically disappeared just because Biden left office. Seems to me they would still be there now.

So what? Unless you are a ****ing racist, why do you believe only white men are capable of doing a job?

 

[ElChupacabra]

People can do anything they want.

But I don't think any possible DEI hires at the FAA introduced by Biden over four years magically disappeared just because Biden left office. Seems to me they would still be there now.

No, but what we don't know is if they were DEI hires and if they were, whether that had anything at all to do with their competency and roll in the accident.

 

[Felis Leo]

People can do anything they want.

But I don't think any possible DEI hires at the FAA introduced by Biden over four years magically disappeared just because Biden left office. Seems to me they would still be there now.

To add on to @ElChupacabra's question, do we have any evidence that DEI hires in general are not competent at their jobs? Because unless the hiring criteria is something along the lines of "Either four years prior experience needed, or applicant is non-white or a woman (no prior experience needed)" I really do not see how one can make the determination.

 

[post]

its clear liberals want to ignore the articles posted, what the FAA were doing with DEI ..... and like I said, I doubt it had any impact on this event BUT it absolutely could have impacts IF people were hired not on their merit but by their race/gender/skin color/sexual preferences and that is what DEI did

read the articles

I'm out on this one - all ya'll want to do is name call and use emoji's and ignore the discussion ....

Stop!

https://www.govexec.com/workforce/2025/01/faa-employees-disabilities-targeted-trumps-anti-dei-push/402444/

January 23, 2025
“…The memo directs the FAA “to immediately return to non-discriminatory, merit-based hiring” and rescind DEI initiatives in hiring. Trump also is requiring the agency to review the performance and performance standards of all employees in “critical safety positions” and replace any who fail to show the necessary proficiency with a “high-capability individual.”

“The Biden FAA specifically recruited and hired individuals with ‘severe intellectual’ disabilities, psychiatric issues and complete paralysis over other individuals who sought to work for the FAA,” an accompanying White House fact sheetsaid.
During Trump’s first administration, however, FAA conducted similar initiatives to recruit and hire people with disabilities.

Shortly after a door blew out on a plane in January 2024, Fox News published an article headlined “FAA’s diversity push includes focus on hiring people with ‘severe intellectual’ and ‘psychiatric’ disabilities.” The original article seems to have been taken down (although a similar article is still up on its website), but it was republished by the New York Post and shared on social media at the time by Elon Musk, the leader of the newly established Department of Government Efficiency.
The fact-checking website Snopes, however, pointed out that the language from the FAA’s website that Fox News highlighted, which discusses hiring of people with targeted disabilities, was present for all of Trump’s first term and had been published as early as 2013.
Targeted disabilities are generally manifest, such as deafness, blindness, significant mobility impairments and intellectual disabilities.
“The implication that the policy is new, or that it stems from efforts that began under U.S. Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg and President Biden, was demonstrably false,”Snopes investigative journalist Alex Kasprak wrote.
FAA said in a statement to Fox News for the 2024 article that: “The FAA employs tens of thousands of people for a wide range of positions, from administrative roles to oversight and execution of critical safety functions. Like many large employers, the agency proactively seeks qualified candidates from as many sources as possible, all of whom must meet rigorous qualifications that of course will vary by position.”

 

[ElChupacabra]

its clear liberals want to ignore the articles posted, what the FAA were doing with DEI ..... and like I said, I doubt it had any impact on this event BUT it absolutely could have impacts IF people were hired not on their merit but by their race/gender/skin color/sexual preferences and that is what DEI did

read the articles

I'm out on this one - all ya'll want to do is name call and use emoji's and ignore the discussion ....

Those making these correlations are the ones that have to prove this, and I have yet to see anyone come close to it. There's a lot of whinging about DEI, but no substantiated arguments making the case the people were not hired on their merit but solely based on whatever non-white/male/straight/able bodied category out there. If we apply a little of that "common sense" Donnie Boy talks about, then why would any employer not hire someone qualified when it impacts a team's productivity by doing so. This is the problem when people just parrot already bad ideas.

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

Mtg

Perhaps Bobert

 

[watsup]

What a f'ing POS.
He aims his hate at his moronic base, they need anger and hatred every day.

Maybe some of them will figure it out, but I doubt it.

They are THAT stupid.

He is the culmination of 25 years of Rush, 30 years of FOX, Newt, and 30+ years of Koch Brothers funded far right organizations aimed at stupid people, and it worked.

 

[beefheart]

He is the culmination of 25 years of Rush, 30 years of FOX, Newt, and 30+ years of Koch Brothers funded far right organizations aimed at stupid people, and it worked.

Yep. People are stupid, and the right wing hate machine got us there.

 

[watsup]

You get to experience almost in real time, how Ill-informed you are because here you are dealing with posters ready for your talking points,

Example, Sen. Durbin asked Patel this morning if he agreed with Trump pardoning all 1,600.
Patel deflected with Biden pardoned a murderer who killed two FBI agents.

Sen. Durbin replied in an instant, the man was imprisoned 45 years, he is 80 years old. he is confined to house arrest. Durbin only omitted that the murderer had been eligible for parole since 1993.

Sen. Durbin then said. “You’re not going to answer the question.”

Patel is dangerous.

 

[ElChupacabra]

To add on @ElChupacabra do we have any evidence that DEI hires in general are not competent at their jobs? Because unless the hiring criteria is something along the lines of "Either four years prior experience needed, or applicant is non-white or a woman (no prior experience needed)" I really do not see how one can make the determination.

I may have to sue the current administration for damages to my mental state, because all of this talk of DEI and labeling anyone not a white male as a DEI hire makes me paranoid at my place of employment, where most of the people are white. I may have to talk to my Asian and Black coworkers to see if they want to join me and the rest of the Beigeistan in this lawsuit. I mean, I don't know, did they hire me because if my knowledge and experience, or am I here because I'm non-white? It's all so confusing now.....