Trump Administration Live Updates: President Orders National Guard to Washington and Says He’s Taking Control of D.C. Police

[Cope]

"LOL LOOK AT HIS WOKE LIB HAHAHA MAGA MAGA ROFL LOL

STUPID WOKE LIB WITH HIS WOKE AMERICAN IDEAS HAHAHAHA LOL

LIBERTY? INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS? STFU AND BUY TRUMP'S MEME COIN AHAHAHAHAHAHA

PEOPLE NEED TO BE PUT IN THEIR ****ING PLACE HAHAHA MAGA MAGA LOL

**** YOUR FREEDOM HAHAHAHA MAGA MAGA MAGA MAGA MAGA

HAHAHA STFU LIBS HAHAHAHA

TRUMP IS THE GOD EMPEROR FOREVER HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA"

Seek professional help?

 

[Cope]

There is no indication they are ineffective.

DC law enforcement is doing a good job.

Trump is a liar.

Not good enough if they have one of the highest crime rates in the country?

 

[Irredentist]

I imagine when it stops being 'stranger' and it becomes 'loved one' or 'you' your mind changes a bit...

Regardless, they are typically someone's 'loved one'

Then where are the demands for martial law from all the families of these murdered people? Why do I hear nothing from the people of Chicago? If they wanted martial law, I think they would tell us.

 

[Cope]

Then where are the demands for martial law from all the families of these murdered people? Why do I hear nothing from the people of Chicago? If they wanted martial law, I think they would tell us.

You did say 'inconvenienced' right?

Let's make clear what you are arguing.
Dead is pretty inconvenient, but that could just be me.

 

[Irredentist]

You did say 'inconvenienced' right?

Let's make clear what you are arguing.
Dead is pretty inconvenient, but that could just be me.

I thought my argument was pretty clear. For most of the three million people in Chicago, martial law is a worse inconvenience than a high murder rate.

 

[j brown's body]

Not good enough if they have one of the highest crime rates in the country?

The military isn't trained in fighting crime.

Why not fund more cops? More programs for wayward kids?

 

[NatMorton]

It's worth looking at @NWRatCon's performance today in this thread as it's educational. More specifically, it gives you insight into what he's all about, and why he's here.

We're having a debate about whether deploying the National Guard to protect lives in DC is a good or bad thing. I think it's a good thing, but I also understand there are arguments against it. But NWR' doesn't want to engage in an adult-level conversation on those points. No, for him, this is an opportunity to label a racist anyone who disagrees with his views, and then, when he's called out on his use of ad hominem, he demands that someone (in this case, me) prove he is not racist.

It's often clear from NWR's posting history that he has a rather high opinion of his own ability to argue, but it's a real struggle to understand why he holds that opinion.

 

[Anthony60]

Fortunately for you, we are just texting here, because I don't believe anyone could say that while maintaining a straight face. Trump attempted to overturn the results of a free and valid election by obstructing a constitutionally mandated process with a plan in place to replace certified electoral votes with fake ones. He is attempting to overturn the 14th Amendment guarantee of birthright citizenship via an unconstitutional executive order. He is seeking to deny millions of people their 5th Amendment right to due process. He is ignoring Congress's authority by withholding or delaying funds appropriated by Congress for certain programs and agencies, violating the separation of powers and Congress's power of the purse. He is directing the DOJ to ignore or disregard Court Orders. He is attacking independent agencies. He is targeting the legal profession, the media, and higher education. He is attempting to suppress the First Amendment right to protest and petition the government by siccing the military and other federal agencies against any citizens who disagree with his policies. He loves the Constitution and the USA? My ass! All he loves is money and status, and he has long been envious of autocrats and dictators, including Hitler; he wants to be just like them. Because, to use his favorite term, they're "strong men". Of which he is not.

No, he's not. Trump even has his own Goebbels in Stephen Miller. Heck, they even look alike. Israel came about well after Hitler was gone, so that's irrelevant. And it was JFK who initiated the US alliance with Israel that has lasted till this day. Although at this point, the wisdom of continuing it probably should be up for debate

That's a really warped view of things. You obviously come to a conclusion first, without regard for facts or even common sense. That conclusion is Trump = bad, then figure out a way (though you haven't) to try and support that.
The thought of discontinuing our alliance with Israel may be the single most idiotic foreign policy suggestion I've ever heard.

 

[W_Heisenberg]

Seek professional help?

SOUNDS LIUKE YIOU ARE SUFFERING FROM TDS HAHAHAHAHAH MAGA

 

[W_Heisenberg]

Not good enough if they have one of the highest crime rates in the country?

Crime is a problem. Is it a problem requiring the military? No, it's not.

DC’s overall crime rate is about average for U.S. cities, with most crime being property crime, and violence concentrated in just a few wards rather than citywide. This localized problem doesn’t justify bringing in the military, especially since other large cities with similar or worse crime rates maintain safety through targeted policing and violence prevention programs that focus on the community as a whole.

How does crime in DC compare to other cities?

Wading into the mess that is local crime data

dccrimefacts.substack.com

Infographic: Washington D.C. Crime Offenses Drop Across the Board in 2025

This chart shows the percent change in the number of violent and property crimes between 2024 and 2025 in Washington D.C.

www.statista.com

Trump is a liar.

Trump is a fascist thug.

Trump is a convicted felon.

You support fascism, and Trump wants the military in every U.S. city, especially the ones with black mayors.

 

[j brown's body]

That's a really warped view of things. You obviously come to a conclusion first, without regard for facts or even common sense. That conclusion is Trump = bad, then figure out a way (though you haven't) to try and support that.
The thought of discontinuing our alliance with Israel may be the single most idiotic foreign policy suggestion I've ever heard.

Trump is bad. He tried to steal a free and fair election and now he's working stealing another one. He's working to put the media, the colleges, the history museums and the judicuary under his personal control. He wants to ethnic cleanse Gaza.

What, pray tell, is good about him?

 

[Anthony60]

Trump is bad. He tried to steal a free and fair election and now he's working stealing another one. He's working to put the media, the colleges, the history museums and the judicuary under his personal control. He wants to ethnic cleanse Gaza.

What, pray tell, is good about him?

Well, that's all leftist BS, come back with something that is actually true.

 

[Tangmo]

I know quite a bit about them. You don't, and clearly aren't interested in facts. Your goal seems to be to bait people.

Again, not interested in your deflection and name calling. Happy to have an adult conversation when you are ready. Good luck to you.

All's well and good over here where the Generalissimo is constantly exposed as a Minuteman going from here to there all the time creating chaos and havoc by the minute.

It's just that I couldn't help but notice that new limp you have as you struggled to exit the room. All I can say is I hope that new limp you have gets better soon. Keep me posted thx because I care about MAGAs and their constant mishaps. Politically accident prone as MAGAs always are. And always having to retire from the frays they start.

Cheers

 

[Tangmo]

Trump is bad. He tried to steal a free and fair election and now he's working stealing another one. He's working to put the media, the colleges, the history museums and the judicuary under his personal control. He wants to ethnic cleanse Gaza.

What, pray tell, is good about him?

I luv to see libruls ask MAGAs open ended questions.

The answers always come back as a package containing a bomb. Blows up in their face it always does. TDS and stuff.

Liberals just never learn. What not to do.

Trump is evil btw.

 

[EnchantedMuggle]

You think that is more, or less expensive an option? More or less time consuming?

Again, folks: I give you the party of "Why doesn't everybody just raise chickens and grow indoor farms under their windowsills?"

But asking the guy in the red shirt to open a cabinet is SO time consuming and SO expensive.

You realize that you are JUSTIFYING the crime, by allowing yourself paying more, and taking more time?

 

[Cope]

Crime is a problem. Is it a problem requiring the military? No, it's not.

DC’s overall crime rate is about average for U.S. cities, with most crime being property crime, and violence concentrated in just a few wards rather than citywide. This localized problem doesn’t justify bringing in the military, especially since other large cities with similar or worse crime rates maintain safety through targeted policing and violence prevention programs that focus on the community as a whole.

How does crime in DC compare to other cities?

Wading into the mess that is local crime data

dccrimefacts.substack.com

Infographic: Washington D.C. Crime Offenses Drop Across the Board in 2025

This chart shows the percent change in the number of violent and property crimes between 2024 and 2025 in Washington D.C.

www.statista.com

I think I'll just keep removing the Trump worship from your posts.

If the crime rate is akin to average in US cities then I would agree, they need more police presence not NG

 

[Cope]

Again, folks: I give you the party of "Why doesn't everybody just raise chickens and grow indoor farms under their windowsills?"

But asking the guy in the red shirt to open a cabinet is SO time consuming and SO expensive.

I made no such judgement, I asked you yours.

Do you also post in the inflation threads, or the tariff threads perhaps?

Hmmm?

 

[EnchantedMuggle]

I made no such judgement, I asked you yours.

Do I think it's this me consuming to ask a guy to open a cabinet?

No. Not unless he walks REALLY slowly.

Do you also post in the inflation threads, or the tariff threads perhaps?

Sometimes. Why?

Hmmm?

LOLz

 

[W_Heisenberg]

I think I'll just keep removing the Trump worship from your posts.

If the crime rate is akin to average in US cities then I would agree, they need more police presence not NG

“If”

Trump is lying to you.

 

[MAGAnificent]

It's not blaming. It's just if your hero is a neo-nazi loving a-hole... You might be a bit of a one yourself.

That is projection at a rather sick level.

This kid's prior record of selling his employers' trade secrets and providing technical support to a cybercrime group suggests a tendency for criminality. He's no hero.

Yet again, you are pretty much suggesting the victim had it coming because you think he's an asshole.

If he had been a black or brown kid working for a federal government agency, Trump would not have given a shit. And you take that to the bank.

Your race card is declined.

 

[MAGAnificent]

That is your misguided and incorrect opinion, to which you will cling to until Trump is ejected from politics.

Not sure what you mean by ejected. Trump will be term limited and will leave office in late January of 2029.

Which "libruls"?

Many on this forum.

Never said that, although that would be an argument consistent with Trump's view of the 2020 election.

Or the lefts view of the 2016 election.

Those who think they know everything and have impeccable judgment just do not understand reality.

The reality is that if you voted for and supported Biden, you voted for and supported a vegetable.

 

[JMB1911A1]

Police should do policing

Soldiers should do soldiering

What about Military Police, which is what the DC NG is?

 

[Cope]

Do I think it's this me consuming to ask a guy to open a cabinet?

When they stop checking you out to do so ...

No. Not unless he walks REALLY slowly.

You've never been in a hurry?

Sometimes. Why?

Increased costs...OH MY! If theft is that bad that EVERYTHING has to be locked up, costs generally go up.

LOLz

 

[W_Heisenberg]

What about Military Police, which is what the DC NG is?

1. Non MP Guardsmen are being used in D.C.:

• 1946th Finance Unit (DCARNG)
• 547th Transportation Company (DCARNG)
• 104th Support Maintenance Company (DCARNG)

D.C. Safe and Beautiful Task Force

U.S. Soldiers assigned to the 104th support maintenance company and 273rd Military Police Company, District of Columbia National Guard, participate in patrolling operations as a part of the D.C. Safe and Beautiful Task Force around the National Mall and Union Station in Washington D.C., August...

www.dvidshub.net

D.C. National Guard activated in support of President’s Safe and Beautiful Task Force

U.S. National Guard 1st Lt. Timothy Ryan with the 547th Transportation Company radios other servicemembers on the National Mall in Washington D.C., Aug. 14, 2025. These National Guard service members provide critical support such as crowd management, presence patrols and perimeter control in...

www.dvidshub.net

D.C. Guardsmen Participate in Dismounted Patrol at National Mall

U.S. Army Soldiers with the 1946th Finance Unit, District of Columbia National Guard, participate in a dismounted patrol at the National Mall, Washington, D.C., as part of the DC Safe and Beautiful Task Force, Joint Task Force District of Columbia, Aug. 14, 2025. Approximately 800 National...

www.dvidshub.net

2. We have a strong tradition in the U.S. of separating military and civilian law enforcement. If you and other Trump supporters were real conservatives, you would oppose this, but you're not. You are advocating for a radical departure from our nation's tradition. This separation is part of our heritage. This separation is the way we do things. And Trump supporters like yourself are shitting all over this tradition.

Defending Against the Military: The Posse Comitatus Act’s Exclusionary Rule | Harvard National Security Journal

harvardnsj.org

https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/R42659

Separation of military and police roles - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

3. If Trump and the Republicans were serious about reducing crime in D.C. they would not have cut funding for the City in the most recent budget:

Congress blocked D.C. from spending the higher budget it had already approved for this year and forced it to stick with last year’s lower spending levels. The city made some adjustments to lessen the impact, but it still $350 million fewer dollars than planned for local services.

https://www.congress.gov/crs_external_products/R/PDF/R48609/R48609.1.pdf

Trump is lying, fascist piece of shit.

Trump is acting like a gangster, shaking down cities, claiming they're full of crime, suggesting they have to implement his political policies, that they to fall in line to avoid any trouble. If they do what he wants then he removes his agents. If they don't, the city get occupied. These are mafia tactics by a thug President who is a convicted felon.

And if he's ever capable of it, Trump will try to use the military to become a dictator, and I consider it an open question as to where supporters like yourself would stand.

 

[NWRatCon]

When did conservatives become supporters of the militarization of society?

It's not conservatism. It's regressivism. It's fascism, wedded to a false image of history and restoration of a past that never existed. It's cowardice. It's cowards pretending they're not fascists, not racists, not xenophobes. ICE wears masks. Fascists wear masks pretending they're "conservative".