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TRUMP: ‘Hillary Clinton created ISIS with Obama’

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ISIS was created by Bush and Cheney!

“One thing I see out there just happened today in Tehran,” Trump said. “They’re burning down the Saudi Embassy, you see that? Now, what that is is Iran wants to take over Saudi Arabia. They always have. They want the oil, OK? They’ve always wanted that.”
In order to tout his ability to predict things, Trump cited his past calls for the US to bomb the oil assets of the Islamic State group, also known as ISIS.
“I’ve predicted a lot of things, you have to say, including, ‘Get the oil, take the oil, keep the oil.’ Right? I’ve been saying that for three years, and everybody said, ‘Oh, I can’t do that. I mean, this is a sovereign country. There is no country!” Trump exclaimed.
He then blamed both President Barack Obama and his former secretary of state, Hillary Clinton, for the Islamic State’s rise.
“They have a bunch of dishonest people,” he continued. “They’ve created ISIS. Hillary Clinton created ISIS with Obama — created with Obama. But I love predicting because you know, ultimately, you need somebody with vision.”

TRUMP: 'Hillary Clinton created ISIS with Obama' - Business Insider
 
You guys still wanna vote for that fortune teller?
 
Bush didn't create ISIS. If you remember, The Great Obama dismissed ISIS as a JV team two years ago. And Bush has been out of office for 7 years. ISIS rose out of the Arab Spring, the Syrian civil war, and a radical interpretation of the Koran. And that war began while Obama was president. That said, are Obama and Clinton to blame for the creation of ISIS as Trump says? No. That is a stupid thing to say. But no more stupid than claiming that Bush and Cheney created ISIS. Both accusations are political, not factual.
 
Without the 2003 invasion of Iraq ISIS would surely not exist.
 
Bush didn't create ISIS. If you remember, The Great Obama dismissed ISIS as a JV team two years ago. And Bush has been out of office for 7 years. ISIS rose out of the Arab Spring, the Syrian civil war, and a radical interpretation of the Koran. And that war began while Obama was president. That said, are Obama and Clinton to blame for the creation of ISIS as Trump says? No. That is a stupid thing to say. But no more stupid than claiming that Bush and Cheney created ISIS. Both accusations are political, not factual.

ISIS was founded out the Iraqi insurgency, which filled the void left by a toppled Iraqi government and disbanded military. Many of the early ISIS officers were former (now unemployed) Iraqi officers that were discharged by the US occupation government.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State_of_Iraq_and_the_Levant
The complicated origin of ISIS explained - AOL

Without the 2003 invasion of Iraq ISIS would surely not exist.

Yep, although there is a trace of roots to 1999 (see wiki article linked above)

ISIS was created and grew as an outcropping of the 2003 invasion. One could argue, however, that it was left for dead and substantially neutralized under the Bush administration, but found life after the US forces left Iraq.

ISIS: The first terror group to build an Islamic state? - CNN.com

But, of course, the main point is that either Trump is a ignoramus or he simply plays to the ignorant (or both).
 
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ISIS was founded out the Iraqi insurgency, which filled the void left by a toppled Iraqi government and disbanded military. Many of the early ISIS officers were former (now unemployed) Iraqi officers that were discharged by the US occupation government.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State_of_Iraq_and_the_Levant
The complicated origin of ISIS explained - AOL



Yep, although there is a trace of roots to 1999 (see wiki article linked above)

ISIS was created and grew as an outcropping of the 2003 invasion. One could argue, however, that it was left for dead and substantially neutralized under the Bush administration, but found life after the US forces left Iraq.

ISIS: The first terror group to build an Islamic state? - CNN.com

But, of course, the main point is that either Trump is a ignoramus or he simply plays to the ignorant (or both).

GWB, and I've read that Cheney was, (at the very least) responsible for creating the environment which allowed Al Queda, ISIS, etc. to form, Neutralized, and/or possibly reborn w/ another name, a Terror group by any other name is still....

The US has been supplying Military Hardware, and financing their regional/local opposition of choice to the Region since before GWB's time, and continues to do so both covertly and overtly.

Also, There was that 'battle' in Iraq where the Iraqi Amry turned and ran, leaving gifted US Military Hardware for ISIS to grab, inc. Abrahams Tanks, etc....IIRC, over $656 million worth overall, that we know of!!!

U.S. Shoots Itself In the Foot By Accidentally Arming ISIS | The Fiscal Times

From article:

2,300 Humvee armored vehicles @ $70,000 per copy. Total: $161 million
40 M1A1 Abram tanks @ $4.3 million per copy. Total: $172 million
52 M198 Howitzer mobile gun systems @ $527,337 per copy. Total: $27.4 million
74,000 Army machine guns @ $4,000 per copy. Total: $296 million

The grand total comes to $656.4 million, but experts say those losses represent just a portion of the many hundreds of millions of dollars’ worth of U.S.-supplied military equipment that has fallen into ISIS’s hands and is being used against the U.S. and allied forces on the ground in Iraq and neighboring Syria....."

I agree w/ you on Trump, he really hasn't said much definitively on FP, or anything else. Mostly he's insinuating, talking in half-finished phrases, etc.


OTOH, HRC blamed Assad for ALL in her last debate, saying, "Syria was the root of all problems in the Region'...and "Assad and the Iraqi PM are responsible for pitting Sunni vs Shia...."

She was either lying, or was simply clueless.
 
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Without the 2003 invasion of Iraq ISIS would surely not exist.

the groups that eventually made up ISIS/ISIL, all were formed prior to the 2003 invasion..... so I'm not sure your argument has much accuracy.

the core group ( al-Zarqawi's thugs) formed in 1999..in Jordan.

the invasion did lend to them becoming stronger, though.
 
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