Trump’s ICE Agents Raid Restaurant Owned by CBS News Star’s Husband (1 Viewer)

[Hamish Howl]

The government has the I-9's on file. It also knows how many employees the business has, and the names and work status of those employees. If they were looking for employees being paid under the table, then there would be a record of this. Since no one was apprehended, whatever information they used was faulty.

It's a classic Trump ****up, any way you slice it.

They used no information. This was an attack on the owner because his wife is a member of the press.

 

[Lutherf]

The government has the I-9's on file. It also knows how many employees the business has, and the names and work status of those employees. If they were looking for employees being paid under the table, then there would be a record of this. Since no one was apprehended, whatever information they used was faulty.

It's a classic Trump ****up, any way you slice it.

No, the government does not have the I-9s on file. You don't send the I-9 to the government. You keep it for your records and it remains subject to inspection.

 

[americanwoman]

And, uh, ICE's job is to keep us safe from foreign threats, not hassle business establishments.

Some businesses deserve to be hassled, taking advantage of a broke immigration system. I've heard horror stories directly from people here illegally. Not that I think they should be deported, they are hardworking good people, and that's why I hate to see them exploited.

 

[Lutherf]

Oddly enough, the constitution doesn't make any such exceptions.

But let's assume you are correct.

How many ICE thugs does it take to inspect a stack of I9s, and why on Earth would you do it at lunchtime in a restaurant?

Yeah, it does. Go read the 4th Amendment and tell me when it's applicable.

 

[Hamish Howl]

Yeah, it does. Go read the 4th Amendment and tell me when it's applicable.

Okay, here it is verbatim:

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

So tell me where the secret code is that says you can do a search without a warrant if you really, really want to.

 

[Lutherf]

Okay, here it is verbatim:



So tell me where the secret code is that says you can do a search without a warrant if you really, really want to.

It says you can't be subject to "unreasonable" search and it's perfectly reasonable for government to inspect required employment documentation. It's the same as if the IRS says "I want to have a look at your tax documents". You can feel free to say No but that doesn't get you out of the responsibility to provide them or from penalties if you fail to comply.

 

[Grizzly Adams]

They have no right to target people just because Trump doesn’t like them when there is no reason to do so. This is a blatant abuse of power to intimidate Trump’s perceived enemies. It is weaponization of ICE for purely personal and political reasons. Every accusation is a confession for Trump. He is corrupt to the core in his use of ICE.

Why should I think Trump is directing ICE activities at this level of specificity? What is your evidence, other than Orange Man Bad?

 

[Grizzly Adams]

Okay, here it is verbatim:



So tell me where the secret code is that says you can do a search without a warrant if you really, really want to.

Does this apply to health codes and OSHA inspections as well, or is this just a "melt ICE" thing?

 

[Uncensored2008]

It looks like this has been going on in many locations, too little info to suggest this was some sort of retribution but I would not rule it out either.

Not only that, it's been going on for decades.

Of course it's only bad now that Trump is in office.

 

[Uncensored2008]

This needs to lead to a MASSIVE lawsuit against Trump and his cronies.

ROFL

Upholding the law is a criminal act as far as the Stalinists here an in the media are concerned.

 

[OrphanSlug]

Not only that, it's been going on for decades.

Of course it's only bad now that Trump is in office.

Well, even under Biden there were ICE raids on various businesses. The question for the thread is how much of this instance, this CBS news star's husband, was retribution. I do not see the evidence yet that this was all about Trump going after businesses only owned by people he does not like.

 

[j brown's body]

Some businesses deserve to be hassled, taking advantage of a broke immigration system. I've heard horror stories directly from people here illegally. Not that I think they should be deported, they are hardworking good people, and that's why I hate to see them exploited.

I hear you. But with ICE, deportation's the only option.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Funny I've lived near packinghouses nearly all my life, which are widely known to hire illegals, and never once have I seen or heard of an ICE, or INS before, raid. But those companies pay good money to avoid those kinds of raids.

Not to say I wouldn't mind them raiding the companies, they treat those workers like shit.

Would you also require USDA to have a warrant prior to inspecting food? Since we are now the dictatorship of the Judiciary, the FDA must beg permission from their rulers in the courts prior to approving drugs.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Well, even under Biden there were ICE raids on various businesses. The question for the thread is how much of this instance, this CBS news star's husband, was retribution. I do not see the evidence yet that this was all about Trump going after businesses only owned by people he does not like.

Particularly since nothing happened to the business or the husband.

BUT without a court order, how can ICE or any agency do anything? We are ruled by the iron fist of the Judiciary - no one is allowed to do anything without begging permission from each and every judge at every level. The absolute rulers of this nation wear black robes. The executive branch will do as it's told, and not question. Heil Boasberg!

 

[j brown's body]

Particularly since nothing happened to the business or the husband.

BUT without a court order, how can ICE or any agency do anything? We are ruled by the iron fist of the Judiciary - no one is allowed to do anything without begging permission from each and every judge at every level. The absolute rulers of this nation wear black robes. The executive branch will do as it's told, and not question. Heil Boasberg!

ICE was created to keep us safe from foreign threats. Perhaps they could focus on that.

 

[TheDoctorWasIn]

We are ruled by the iron fist of the Judiciary - no one is allowed to do anything without begging permission from each and every judge at every level.

No, "we" are not ruled by the Judiciary. The Judiciary protects "us" from the current fascist government.

I know you think you're on their side, and they won't mess with you, because fascists always think that, until it all goes wrong.

The executive branch will do as it's told, and not question.

Yes, exactly. The Judiciary, in this context, is doing exactly what its supposed to do - fascists be damned. Feel free to cry about it some more, though.

 

[Uncensored2008]

ICE was created to keep us safe from foreign threats. Perhaps they could focus on that.

ICE was create as IMMIGRATION AND CUSTOMS ENFORCEMENT.

Leftists are so out there...

But you agree that the Judiciary has absolute power over every action the executive might undertake, right? That any executive agency must beg permission from every judge at every level before taking any action, Heil Boasberg.

 

[Uncensored2008]

No, "we" are not ruled by the Judiciary.

Sure we are, just ask the insurrectionist judges who dictate what the Executive branch may or may not do.

The Judiciary protects "us" from the current fascist government.

"Protects" us - sieg heil!

I know you think you're on their side, and they won't mess with you, because fascists always think that, until it all goes wrong.

I know you think that dissolving the executive branch undoes the the election you lost, and refuse to accept. But it is in fact insurrection. An attempt to overthrow the executive branch of the United States.

Yes, exactly. The Judiciary, in this context, is doing exactly what its supposed to do - fascists be damned. Feel free to cry about it some more, though.

I realize you've never read the United States Constitution and have absolutely zero knowledge of same, but I will pose the same question I've posed to all the Stalinists on this board: Provide the text from the article or amendment that provides the judiciary with authority to dictate the actions of the executive branch?

I'll even give you a hint, Article II of the Constitution, which you've never read, in fact places the executive power in different hands.

 

[Grizzly Adams]

Funny I've lived near packinghouses nearly all my life, which are widely known to hire illegals, and never once have I seen or heard of an ICE, or INS before, raid.

I guess you don't pay a whole lot of attention to such things, then. Not that I blame you, as most people in years past don't hear about them. But they happen. All the time.

But those companies pay good money to avoid those kinds of raids.

Pretty bold accusation to make, that they're straight up bribing ICE officials. Got any evidence to support that?

 

[TheDoctorWasIn]

Sure we are, just ask the insurrectionist judges who dictate what the Executive branch may or may not do.

Well, yeah. That's how it's supposed to work. When a fascist, authoritarian Executive violates the Constitution and the laws of the country, it is explicitly the Judiciary's role to shut that shit down.

Now, I understand that being a fascist, you think that Trump should have absolute power to do whatever he wants. But tough shit.

I know you think that dissolving the executive branch undoes the the election you lost, and refuse to accept. But it is in fact insurrection. An attempt to overthrow the executive branch of the United States.

None of this is true. But I do love watching fascists cry like little bitches, so by all means - carry on.

 

[Demon]

A coincidence or intimidation? Is trump trying to turn America into a police state?

The immigration agents, dressed in Homeland Security uniforms, reportedly asked to see the staff’s I-9 forms that verify their identity and employment authorization.
The raid took place early Tuesday morning and lasted about an hour and a half. No one was taken into custody.

Shawn Townsend, president of the Restaurant Association of Metropolitan Washington, told Fox 5 that they were concerned about “the fearmongering tactics” used on a number of D.C. restaurants.

“There was no one detained or arrested that I’ve heard of but regardless of that fact, disrupting food service during lunch hours while restaurants are open is alarming,” he said. “There is a sense of fear… Immigrants make up a large amount of workers in our restaurants in the district.”

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Intimidation.

 

[devildavid]

I'm an accountant. I've had them show up at client's places of business before and I've had them show up at my place of business looking for client information. I've had that happen when Bush was president, when Obama was president, when Trump was president and when Biden was president. Even before I got into this line of work they showed up at my employer's place of business and that was when Clinton was president. It's been like this for a LONG time and the only reason people are shitting themselves over it is because they hate Trump.

No, this is because Trump is using this to target those he doesn’t like, and not because they are suspected of hiring illegals or as part of a routine check that certain businesses go through. There is nothing normal and routine about what they did. This is all part of Trump weaponizing ICE to intimidate his perceived enemies. It is purely political and personal in nature.

 

[devildavid]

They can't? Are you sure about that?

Yes, I am.

 

[devildavid]

Why should I think Trump is directing ICE activities at this level of specificity? What is your evidence, other than Orange Man Bad?

Trump is in charge and his policies are what is followed. You know, those policies all his followers said he clearly stated while Harris didn’t state hers? The actions of the federal branch of the government reflect the wishes and policies and EOs of the president. When it comes to all of the actions of ICE the buck stops with Trump. Or are there different rules of responsibility for the cult followers of Trump? Nothing bad is his fault, anything good is his doing? The evidence is the actions taken and who is in charge. It comes with the position.

 

[Grizzly Adams]

Trump is in charge and his policies are what is followed. You know, those policies all his followers said he clearly stated while Harris didn’t state hers? The actions of the federal branch of the government reflect the wishes and policies and EOs of the president. When it comes to all of the actions of ICE the buck stops with Trump. Or are there different rules of responsibility for the cult followers of Trump? Nothing bad is his fault, anything good is his doing? The evidence is the actions taken and who is in charge. It comes with the position.

Note that I never said he wasn't responsible for the actions of the agencies under his watch, I asked for evidence he is directing specific ICE actions.