Trump’s “Christian” supporters do not follow a central message of Jesus (6 Viewers)

[forn]

God sure does a lot of killing in the Bible. If one accepts the bie as literal, God committed murder and genocide. He seems just fine with smiting and killing. He sure is one megalomaniacal psychopathic deity who puts every other supervillain to shame.

God cannot be judged by human standards. God is justified in doing whatever He wants. It's laughable for a sin riddled human to try to judge God.

 

[NolanVoyd]

God cannot be judged by human standards.

Of course he can. He was created by us.

God is justified in doing whatever He wants.

lol.

It's laughable for a sin riddled human to try to judge God.

Its laughable for your petty, immoral, little fictional God to judge humans.

 

[Gordy327]

God cannot be judged by human standards.

Sure he can. If god can set standards for us, he can be judged by the same accordingly.

God is justified in doing whatever He wants.

Then god is a hypocrite.

It's laughable for a sin riddled human to try to judge God.

That statement reeks of sycophantry.

 

[forn]

The message is that no true Christian could vote for Trump.

So you think Christians should instead vote for the side that says this:

Its laughable for your petty, immoral, little fictional God to judge humans.

 

[Michael Cole]

So you think Christians should instead vote for the side that says this:

??? No. I was clear. I'm not going to repeat it.

 

[NolanVoyd]

So you think Christians should instead vote for the side that says this:

Lol.

Most democrats are Christians. Real ones. Unlike Trump and the people that support him.

I am not a Christian.

Niether is Trump.

I am honest about it.

Trump is not. He lies about it like he lies about everything.

If you stop and think you already know this

 

[Michael Cole]

Lol.

Most democrats are Christians. Real ones. Unlike Trump and the people that support him.

I am not a Christian.

Niether is Trump.

I am honest about it.

Trump is not. He lies about it like he lies about everything.

If you stop and think you already know this

The argument seems to be that Christians were forced to vote for Trump. It was either Trump or the baby killers.

It's such a simpleton argument. Christians had many choices, and if they held to their Christian beliefs, this guy would have been nominated.

I'm referring to Pence, but either one would do as the Christian pick.

The Christians instead chose the criminal. There really is no excuse.

 

[Lisa]

And I agree. But an abortion is intentional. Which would mean the woman and the one giving the abortion deserve the death penalty. If these atheists are trying to use these verses to represent abortion.

Lees

Atheists dont use the bible to support abortion because we dont live our lives by fiction and myth.

Its hilarious for believers to say "Thou shall not kill" and then turn around and kill the mother or her Dr as revenge for a group of cells. Hypocrisy, thy name is religion.

 

[Daisy]

 

[NolanVoyd]

I am an athiest. But good point

 

[watsup]

God cannot be judged by human standards. God is justified in doing whatever He wants. It's laughable for a sin riddled human to try to judge God.

You are very good at parroting dogma based in myth. We atheists don’t care.

 

[watsup]

Lol.

Most democrats are Christians. Real ones. Unlike Trump and the people that support him.

I am not a Christian.

Niether is Trump.

I am honest about it.

Trump is not. He lies about it like he lies about everything.

If you stop and think you already know this

Trump is transactional about religion, just like everything else. In other word, he USES the pious for nothing more than his own political purposes. He cares not about any Christian God because he considers himself the ultimate entity.

 

[watsup]

Atheists dont use the bible to support abortion because we dont live our lives by fiction and myth.

Its hilarious for believers to say "Thou shall not kill" and then turn around and kill the mother or her Dr as revenge for a group of cells. Hypocrisy, thy name is religion.

Note that the Trump cult Christians carefully look the other way while Netanyahu starves thousands of children to death. Where is their God? Why don’t they care about starving children?

 

[Phys251]

Are you saying now you admit that (Ex. 21:22-23) is not about abortion?

Lees

You really aren't good at basic logic, are you? It has been repeatedly pointed out to you that Exodus 21:22 shows that the ZEF is the woman's property, and therefore, she may get rid of her property at any time. Shouldn't Christians be models of logical thinking?

 

[forn]

You really aren't good at basic logic, are you? It has been repeatedly pointed out to you that Exodus 21:22 shows that the ZEF is the woman's property, and therefore, she may get rid of her property at any time. Shouldn't Christians be models of logical thinking?

That passage doesn't show that at all, that is really weak reasoning.

 

[Phys251]

That passage doesn't show that at all, that is really weak reasoning.

Already addressed. The failure to understand the logic is yours.

 

[Terryj]

The Christians haven't been following the teaching of Christ since the first council of Nicaea in 325AD.

 

[Lees]

Atheists dont use the bible to support abortion because we dont live our lives by fiction and myth.

Its hilarious for believers to say "Thou shall not kill" and then turn around and kill the mother or her Dr as revenge for a group of cells. Hypocrisy, thy name is religion.

I guess @Phys251 didn't get the memo.

'Thou shalt not kill' speaks to murder. Not to kill in the general sense.

God provided plenty of reasons to kill both animals and people.

No hypocrisy. Just the way it is. Just the way God wants it.

Lees

 

[Lees]

You really aren't good at basic logic, are you? It has been repeatedly pointed out to you that Exodus 21:22 shows that the ZEF is the woman's property, and therefore, she may get rid of her property at any time. Shouldn't Christians be models of logical thinking?

(Ex. 21:22-23) says nothing about abortion.

And, if the fetus is the woman's property, why does it say in (Ex. 21:22: "...shall be surely punished, according as the women's husband will lay upon him...."

Lees

 

[forn]

Trump is transactional about religion, just like everything else. In other word, he USES the pious for nothing more than his own political purposes. He cares not about any Christian God because he considers himself the ultimate entity.

All people are sinners, therefore all politicians are sinners. God has been able to use many evil people who ruled their countries to accomplish His will. Saul of Tarsus was a dogged persecutor of Christians, yet God was able to use him as the premier evangelist of the gospel to the Gentiles. Christians understand that God can use anyone to do good if He wants. The idea that Trump is somehow so foul that all Christians need to shun him holds no water.

 

[Airyaman]

 

[rickc]

Now I am not a religious person but I was raised up attending Sunday school and church every Sunday. My family is very active in the church. It is a good way to lead your life.

But these maga so called Christians certainly do not follow the teachings of Jesus Christ. I don’t really care one way or the other. Hatred, bigotry and fear kind of go against everything Jesus taught. Evangelicals supporting trump! If there is a God i am sure he condemns them.

 

[Phys251]

(Ex. 21:22-23) says nothing about abortion.

And, if the fetus is the woman's property, why does it say in (Ex. 21:22: "...shall be surely punished, according as the women's husband will lay upon him...."

Lees

You are the one who keeps repeating that strawman. Not me. Why does Exodus 21:22 imply that destruction of the fetus should be punished like destroyed property? Answer the question.

 

[watsup]

All people are sinners, therefore all politicians are sinners. God has been able to use many evil people who ruled their countries to accomplish His will. Saul of Tarsus was a dogged persecutor of Christians, yet God was able to use him as the premier evangelist of the gospel to the Gentiles. Christians understand that God can use anyone to do good if He wants. The idea that Trump is somehow so foul that all Christians need to shun him holds no water.

Here is what I understood of your post: sinners blah blah blah god can use anyone blah blah blah Trump blah blah blah. In other words, just another attempt by one of the Trump cult “Christians” to excuse him while he is directly responsible for starvation in Sudan, while he looks the other way while Netanyahu is starving thousands of children to death in Gaza, while he is causing suffering among “the least of these” Americans by nixing programs meant to help them lead a decent and healthful life so that he can use that money to give yet another huge tax break to himself and his wealthy elite buddies. In other words, what you have done is to prove the claims that I made in the OP about Trump cult Christians supporting an egomaniac who is throwing a central message of Jesus in the trash. Shame shame on those Trump cult Christians, but they will just make up more lame excuses for him.
It’s why I’m glad that I am a atheist who can condemn his actions instead.

 

[watsup]

Yes, (Matt. 24-25) says just what I said in post #(92). Just because you say it doesn't means nothing. It is clear that the Scriptures you try to use do not apply to the Christian. The setting is after the Return of Jesus Christ. The judgement you cite is of the Jews, and then the Gentiles. And the judgement of the Gentiles nations is based upon how they treated the Jews during the Tribulation period.

“What you said” is clearly a misinterpretation of Matthew 24 and 25, and you have not offered any proof of it other than exactly that: “what you said”. It is quite clear in reading the passages that Jesus, speaking for “the King”. intended that EVERYONE should take care of “the least of these”, your ridiculous claims notwithstanding. You still have not answered my question: are you saying that Jesus does not expect Trump amd his “Christian” cult to attend to “the least of these”? When exactly did he offer that dispensation? Show the Bible verse.

You are trying to push something Jesus will judge the Gentiles with, as something Jesus judges the Christians with. You're in the wrong age

See above. I am indeed saying that Jesus meant his dictum to be applicable to everyone, and you have not shown otherwise to this point. All that you have done is to offer a claim with zero evidence to back it up.

Again, the setting is after the return of Jesus Christ. (Matt. 25:31) And if you think it's bad now over there in the Holy Land, wait till Jesus returns. For when He returns the 2nd time, He is not going to be that humble Man walking around in dusty shoes. He returns as King of Kings and Lord of Lords. And He will be covered with blood again, but this time it won't be His

This is all myth and superstition. No one is coming back. Get over it.

I proved your OP was a lie. Which you fail to answer to. Typical.

Nope. You have not shown anything at all in the OP to be inaccurate, except in your own mind.