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Trauma Surgeons returning from Gaza speak of their experience there.

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Just one of many accounts from people who have witnessed the suffering first hand. These two trauma surgeons have worked on more than 40 surgical missions in developing countries on three continents in their combined 57 years of volunteering. These are experienced surgeons who have been on interventions all over the world. They have never seen anything like what they have experienced in Gaza.

"As humanitarian trauma surgeons, we have both seen incredible suffering. Collectively, we were present at Ground Zero on 9/11, Hurricane Katrina, and the 2010 earthquake in Haiti on the first day of these disasters. We have worked in the deprivation of southern Zimbabwe and the horrors of … the war in Ukraine and attended primary trauma services to those injured in the Boston Marathon. Together we have worked on more than 40 surgical missions in developing countries on three continents in our combined 57 years of volunteering. This long experience taught us that there was no greater pain as a humanitarian surgeon than being unable to provide needed care to a patient.

“But that was before coming to Gaza. Now we know the pain of being unable to properly treat a child who will slowly die, but also alone, because she is the only surviving member of an entire extended family. We have not had the heart to tell these children how their families died: burned until they resembled blistered hotdogs more than human beings, shredded to pieces such that they can only be buried in mass graves, or simply entombed in their former apartment buildings to die slowly of asphyxia and sepsis.”






and lastly...

And I think the last thing that I would say that struck me was the attempt of the Palestinians to maintain their dignity and their humanity even in such really horrifying circumstances. They stayed in family units as much as they could. They tried to continue their traditions of Ramadan. Even though they’re all desperately hungry and thirsty, they would still fast during the day. And it was the maintaining of their culture, maintaining their family units, maintaining their belief that the future can be better. That was really quite dignified, in my opinion, and it was very, very impressive to see.


Palestinian civilians dying. Young soldiers dying. Hostages still not released.

There's nothing left to say.

It's ok to want this to end.
 
there is an aspect of this sadness which i have never seen addressed ... possibly, i did not look for it properly:

why are the other arab/muslim nations unwilling to take a stand in support of the Palestinian people?

a restriction of oil supplies by saudi arabia to any nation which provides aid and support to israel, while it is engaged in this warfare, would be a obvious way to make the western world choose between salvaging their economies and continuing the tolerate the israeli government's slaughter of Palestinian women and children, and/or the dispossession of Palestinian lands
 
Just one of many accounts from people who have witnessed the suffering first hand. These two trauma surgeons have worked on more than 40 surgical missions in developing countries on three continents in their combined 57 years of volunteering. These are experienced surgeons who have been on interventions all over the world. They have never seen anything like what they have experienced in Gaza.

"As humanitarian trauma surgeons, we have both seen incredible suffering. Collectively, we were present at Ground Zero on 9/11, Hurricane Katrina, and the 2010 earthquake in Haiti on the first day of these disasters. We have worked in the deprivation of southern Zimbabwe and the horrors of … the war in Ukraine and attended primary trauma services to those injured in the Boston Marathon. Together we have worked on more than 40 surgical missions in developing countries on three continents in our combined 57 years of volunteering. This long experience taught us that there was no greater pain as a humanitarian surgeon than being unable to provide needed care to a patient.

“But that was before coming to Gaza. Now we know the pain of being unable to properly treat a child who will slowly die, but also alone, because she is the only surviving member of an entire extended family. We have not had the heart to tell these children how their families died: burned until they resembled blistered hotdogs more than human beings, shredded to pieces such that they can only be buried in mass graves, or simply entombed in their former apartment buildings to die slowly of asphyxia and sepsis.”






and lastly...

And I think the last thing that I would say that struck me was the attempt of the Palestinians to maintain their dignity and their humanity even in such really horrifying circumstances. They stayed in family units as much as they could. They tried to continue their traditions of Ramadan. Even though they’re all desperately hungry and thirsty, they would still fast during the day. And it was the maintaining of their culture, maintaining their family units, maintaining their belief that the future can be better. That was really quite dignified, in my opinion, and it was very, very impressive to see.


Palestinian civilians dying. Young soldiers dying. Hostages still not released.

There's nothing left to say.

It's ok to want this to end.

… with the total subjugation of the Arabs in Gaza
 
there is an aspect of this sadness which i have never seen addressed ... possibly, i did not look for it properly:

why are the other arab/muslim nations unwilling to take a stand in support of the Palestinian people?

a restriction of oil supplies by saudi arabia to any nation which provides aid and support to israel, while it is engaged in this warfare, would be a obvious way to make the western world choose between salvaging their economies and continuing the tolerate the israeli government's slaughter of Palestinian women and children, and/or the dispossession of Palestinian lands
Why would Saudi Arabia do this on behalf of Iranian backed Shia?
 
there is an aspect of this sadness which i have never seen addressed ... possibly, i did not look for it properly:

why are the other arab/muslim nations unwilling to take a stand in support of the Palestinian people?

a restriction of oil supplies by saudi arabia to any nation which provides aid and support to israel, while it is engaged in this warfare, would be a obvious way to make the western world choose between salvaging their economies and continuing the tolerate the israeli government's slaughter of Palestinian women and children, and/or the dispossession of Palestinian lands
Saudi Arabia has their own genocide to complete. They're doing in Yemen what Israel's doing in Gaza. Why would they condemn it?
 
there is an aspect of this sadness which i have never seen addressed ... possibly, i did not look for it properly:

why are the other arab/muslim nations unwilling to take a stand in support of the Palestinian people?

a restriction of oil supplies by saudi arabia to any nation which provides aid and support to israel, while it is engaged in this warfare, would be a obvious way to make the western world choose between salvaging their economies and continuing the tolerate the israeli government's slaughter of Palestinian women and children, and/or the dispossession of Palestinian lands
History has shown examples of Palestinian refugees fleeing from Gaza and not being allowed to return, so there's unwillingness to take hundreds of thousands of refugees who will essentially become their responsibility forever.

Qatar will take the billionaires only....
 
History has shown examples of Palestinian refugees fleeing from Gaza and not being allowed to return, so there's unwillingness to take hundreds of thousands of refugees who will essentially become their responsibility forever.

Qatar will take the billionaires only....
why do the arab nations, many of them economically sound, unwilling to advocate for the Palestinians of gaza and the west bank?

is it more than to do so would dilute their population's wealth?
 
are the Palestinian people exclusively of the shia sect?
The majority are.

In any event, most of the Arab world doesn’t actually like the Palestinians that much. They were nowhere to be found when ISIS was marauding about and many people don’t realize that after 2015 most Arabs despise the Palestinians because they didn’t help
 
History has shown examples of Palestinian refugees fleeing from Gaza and not being allowed to return, so there's unwillingness to take hundreds of thousands of refugees who will essentially become their responsibility forever.

Qatar will take the billionaires only....
it’s amazing that leftists demand western countries take in millions of Arabs and Muslims and Muslim countries won’t take each other. It’s how one knows the claims mass immigration makes up all better off is massive load of BS, Egypt isn’t lining up to be culturally enriched
 
it’s amazing that leftists demand western countries take in millions of Arabs and Muslims and Muslim countries won’t take each other. It’s how one knows the claims mass immigration makes up all better off is massive load of BS, Egypt isn’t lining up to be culturally enriched
I am curious why you seem to have zero interest in talking about the actual topic of the thread and instead just push your own twisted agenda here. It is not like there are not plenty of threads where things like what you want to talk about actually are the topic...
 
I am curious why you seem to have zero interest in talking about the actual topic of the thread and instead just push your own twisted agenda here. It is not like there are not plenty of threads where things like what you want to talk about actually are the topic...
going to offer a mea culpa
i derailed the discussion about doctors without borders and their expressed opinions and experiences into a quation about why other muslim countries are not inclined to advocate for the Palestinians

as to the OP topic, don't have anything more to offer but that the doctors have underscored what is widely believed: the Palestinian people of gaza have been both slaughtered and unsupported
 
The first-hand accounts by the two doctors are horrifying.

Bless them, and all medical workers in Gaza, for their efforts on behalf of victims of the Israeli war machine and US bombs and planes.

Besides the current slaughter occurring in Gaza, there will be a generation of trauma for the survivors.
 
The first-hand accounts by the two doctors are horrifying.

Bless them, and all medical workers in Gaza, for their efforts on behalf of victims of the Israeli war machine and US bombs and planes.

Besides the current slaughter occurring in Gaza, there will be a generation of trauma for the survivors.

It is horrific and impossible to just walk past.
 
It's ok to want this to end.

It needs to end, but that's not enough. A cease-fire would just return to the ongoing blockade, oppression, killing and so on. It needs to end and to have Israel (Worse than Hamas) have a political solution - likely the two state solution with settlers removed - forced on it. Only one country can do that, and we have NO presidential candidates close to doing that and 80% of Congress controlled by the lobby.
 
Besides the current slaughter occurring in Gaza, there will be a generation of trauma for the survivors.

They're still traumatized by the 1948 Nakba; 2/3 of Gazan people are from refugees from that. This is worse. Yet some people will still demand zero retribution from Palestinians for all these crimes. Otherwise it's unprovoked terrorism. See my sig: an American enduring one tenth what Palestinians do, would support 10 times the resistance.
 
The video in the OP is now age restricted. It wasn't when I first posted. You can watch it here.

 
The video in the OP is now age restricted. It wasn't when I first posted. You can watch it here.



Ironic that the video is age-restricted, given that some of the war victims are children. 😢
 
Ironic that the video is age-restricted, given that some of the war victims are children. 😢
One of the Trauma Surgeons said that 70-75% of the people that they operated on were elementary school age or younger.
 
Why would Saudi Arabia do this on behalf of Iranian backed Shia?

Saudi are western backed puppets and thus they serve their sponsors and try to placate their own, especially wrt the likes of Palestine where the Palestinians have great support amongst the people but the leaderships are, as pointed out, western backed and there lies the issue.
 
It is horrific and impossible to just walk past.

And yet there is a whole raft of genocide deniers/atrocity supporters here in this very forum that neither ignore it or walk past it, they actual give it their 100% support.
 
it’s amazing that leftists demand western countries take in millions of Arabs and Muslims and Muslim countries won’t take each other. It’s how one knows the claims mass immigration makes up all better off is massive load of BS, Egypt isn’t lining up to be culturally enriched
Doesn't give the Government of Israel the right to dispossess, displace, and slaughter tens of thousands of Palestinians in Gaza.

Doesn't give the Government of Israel the right to destroy their homes, their communities, their infrastructure.

Doesn't give the Government of Israel the right to deprive Palestinians in Gaza of potable water, of food, of medicine and medical care.
 
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