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Transgender toddler.

It took less than 10 years after the legalization of gay marriage for the idiot left and progs to usher in their agenda and literally mentally **** a 2 year old toddler. Generations of child victims of the left....its ****ing tragic.
 
It took less than 10 years after the legalization of gay marriage for the idiot left and progs to usher in their agenda and literally mentally **** a 2 year old toddler. Generations of child victims of the left....its ****ing tragic.
What does gay marriage have to do with a trans toddler?

Do you understand that people do not choose to be trans or gay? People are born that way and it isn't a choice. Did you choose your sexuality, gender, eye color, hair color, and your visual acuity? When did you make these choices? Why did you tell when you made these choices?

What is the gay/LGBT agenda because nobody knows what it is, except for equal rights for LGBT people that heterosexuals and CIS people already enjoy.
 
The child is FtM, so I doubt that he will be a track star, or did you forget that trans guys exist?
Wow.

The incredible stereotyping.

:mad::eek::oops::(

You are not aware that women have smaller, lighter skeletons than men? So therefore a biological female would be more suited to events such as high jump and hurdles?

Especially a biological female who is treated for her biological misgendering with male hormones to allow her muscles to grow stronger than a typical biological female?

But you . . . you would look that young man in the eye and say, "I doubt that you will be a track star?"

Are you a man-hating feminist? Those went out of style last century.

You need sensitivity training, Lisa.
 
do they mean "intersex" toddler? Some people can naturally develop features from both sexes
 
One could assume the kid wears Transformer undies
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Funny that you mention that. So by the thinking of some folks if your child decides he/she is a tree they are a tree, or a dog or a cat. It's all about what you think you are, science means nothing except for climate change and Covid shots.


Medical science supports transgender identity, so science means everything. You just want to focus on DBNA and ignore what doesn't support your opinion.

 
Medical science supports transgender identity, so science means everything. You just want to focus on DBNA and ignore what doesn't support your opinion.

I really wouldn't use 'global news' as a source. They give a lot of pseudo science claims.
 
Wow.

The incredible stereotyping.

:mad::eek::oops::(

You are not aware that women have smaller, lighter skeletons than men? So therefore a biological female would be more suited to events such as high jump and hurdles?

Especially a biological female who is treated for her biological misgendering with male hormones to allow her muscles to grow stronger than a typical biological female?

But you . . . you would look that young man in the eye and say, "I doubt that you will be a track star?"

Are you a man-hating feminist? Those went out of style last century.

You need sensitivity training, Lisa.

Explain what is wrong with pointing out the mere existence of FtM people.
 
I really wouldn't use 'global news' as a source. They give a lot of pseudo science claims.
I've met Dr Altinay because he helped me with my PTSD.

 
I've met Dr Altinay because he helped me with my PTSD.

That's a much better source
 
What does gay marriage have to do with a trans toddler?
If gay and trans have nothing to do with each other, why do they group themselves together in the LGBT-Q community?

Now that you mention it, trans people are very late to the sexuality civil rights movement. Gays have been fighting since the sixties and fighting damn hard. You got to hand it to them for that, no matter how you feel about their choices. They fought through civil rights and through AIDS at the same time.

The transexual I-want-a-sex-change folks had to fight, but really their fight was pretty brief. People accepted someone was serious when they voluntarily underwent castration and female hormones to math their bodies with their mind.

But, now we have a new generation that is taking the easy way. We used to refer to transsexuals as pre-op and post-op. Now transgenders are in large number op-hesitant, meaning they have no intention of having the surgery. Many do not even use hormones.

My opinion only, but to me that isn’t transgender, that’s just cross-dressing. Even with the hormones, they are using female hormones in the same spirit they would use rouge and lipstick: cosmetically, not to literally transform into a female.

I respect their right to make those choices. I would fight for their right to make those choices.

But I respect the rights of others not to use their preferred - but fictional - gender pronouns. Also, if you haven’t had the surgery, don’t flounce into the ladies room with my twelve year old daughter and giggle that “I’m a girl, too.”
 
Ok, you've said a lot of things I'd like to respond to. We've have some good dialogs in the past though so I'm going to take some time to respond here.
If gay and trans have nothing to do with each other, why do they group themselves together in the LGBT-Q community?
Because there is a lot of overlap between homophobes and transphobes. It's like that quote;
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
It makes sense if you are a minority to work as an political and advocacy block with other minorities. At this point it's just a general civil rights movement. Hopefully that makes sense.
People accepted someone was serious when they voluntarily underwent castration and female hormones to math their bodies with their mind.
Now transgenders are in large number op-hesitant, meaning they have no intention of having the surgery. Many do not even use hormones.
This is because transgender is a very broad term. Some have body dysphoria, which is a medical condition where getting surgery as treatment necessary. Medically and socially transitioning is very important to reducing the suicide rate in this group. These are who people normally think of as transgender.

Then, there are people that feel happiest presenting as and carrying out the social roles of the opposite gender but are happy with how there bodies are mostly. They may or may not take hormones and if they get surgeries it's usually just to look closer to how they are socially expected to and not because they have dysphoria.

Nonbinary people are also trans and may or may not take hormones/get surgery though many I know irl just like to dress and behave in a variety of ways.

Finally, many simply just cannot afford any medical treatment. That is the reality for a great many transgender individuals.
My opinion only, but to me that isn’t transgender, that’s just cross-dressing.
My opinion only, but why does it matter what it is? It seems to make people happy, it doesn't hurt anyone else, and whatever label we arbitrarily decide to try and apply to it is irrelevant.
I respect their right to make those choices. I would fight for their right to make those choices.
In the end, that's all that really matters.
But I respect the rights of others not to use their preferred - but fictional - gender pronouns
Well I mean legally they have a right to be able to do that. What I would argue is not using their pronouns is unnecessarily cruel. Especially with teens, their suicide rate is very high pre-transition. If anything the people who don't look like their preferred gender are the ones for whom it is most important to use their pronouns.

Finally, I have a few thoughts about gender theory you might find interesting. I know I know, it's lib shit. Fair enough. But some of this stuff is pretty interesting. At the core of trans issues is the question about what gender is.

We assign all these behaviors to people totally arbitrarily based on their sex. 100 years ago pink was considered strictly for boys and blue strictly for girls. 200 years ago it was traditional to dress young boys in dresses until they came of age. 300 years ago kings wore dresses, heals, and makeup as an expression of their wealth and power. The point is that gender (the roles and appearances we have in our society) and sex (our biology) are totally separate things. All our pronouns are "fictional." We can describe what it means to be a man biologically. But socially what does it mean? Well, that seems to change overtime. So the social roles are clearly arbitrary and socially derived. So there doesn't really seem to be any reason to restrict them to one sex.
 
Yes ... because 3 & 4 year olds understand this concept. They can't sign contracts or drive, but they sure can make life changing decisions.
Respectfully, that is simply not true. You have to be 18 to get sex reassignment surgery.
 
Respectfully, that is simply not true. You have to be 18 to get sex reassignment surgery.

Respectfully, that is not accurate. Double mastectomies at 13.. dicks off at 15 (nearly 16). Studies have been posted in the past.

And "life changing decisions" would mean more than surgery. Puberty blockers and cross sex hormones both have life changing impacts.
 
Respectfully, that is not accurate. Double mastectomies at 13.. dicks off at 15 (nearly 16). Studies have been posted in the past.
Source?
And "life changing decisions" would mean more than surgery. Puberty blockers and cross sex hormones both have life changing impacts.
You can get puberty blockers from 12 and older. This is true. Though considering the amount that administering puberty blockers reduces the suicide rate it seems well worthwhile. Suicide is a pretty life changing impact.
 
Source?

You can get puberty blockers from 12 and older. This is true. Though considering the amount that administering puberty blockers reduces the suicide rate it seems well worthwhile. Suicide is a pretty life changing impact.

Ive posted the studies multiple times.. I'm not going to find them again. Maybe someone else will post. You either believe, or not. But its true.

I wouldn't agree on blockers on hormones, but as long as you acknowledge life changing decisions prior to 18, I dont care enough to argue it again.
 
You either believe, or not
I'm not religious and can't seem to find any data on it myself. So I guess I don't believe. Best I could find was this story of a 17 year old. Though arguably if you can join the military you should be able to make any choice any other adult can. So I'd argue 17 is fine. Personally 16 or younger is probably too young.
but as long as you acknowledge life changing decisions prior to 18
Do you support gender transition after 18?
I dont care enough to argue it again.
Fair enough.
 
As soon as you show me where I said that.

I'm sure you'd like us all to pretend that your angry rant in Post #28 doesn't exist, but it's sitting there for all to see.
 
Funny that you mention that. So by the thinking of some folks if your child decides he/she is a tree they are a tree, or a dog or a cat. It's all about what you think you are, science means nothing except for climate change and Covid shots.
Funny how the "follow the science" is so selective for the left. Kinda like who they think is a true black person is by his political affiliation.
 
I'm sure you'd like us all to pretend that your angry rant in Post #28 doesn't exist, but it's sitting there for all to see.
That angry rant was because Lisa perpetuated the vile stereotype of biological females being poor track athletes, not because of the mere mention of FtM.
 
Respectfully, that is not accurate. Double mastectomies at 13.. dicks off at 15 (nearly 16). Studies have been posted in the past.

And "life changing decisions" would mean more than surgery. Puberty blockers and cross sex hormones both have life changing impacts.

Hormone blockers have been given to cis children when puberty arrives too early. This is nothing new, yet the social conservatives don't lose their minds over that (nor should they--they are not those kids' doctors).
 
That angry rant was because Lisa perpetuated the vile stereotype of biological females being poor track athletes

:LOL:

More angry nonsense from you.
 
Funny how the "follow the science" is so selective for the left.

^ From the side of the aisle that tells us that Ivermectin and not vaccines are the way to deal with the coronavirus.
 
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