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Transgender runner breaks two women’s track and field records for New York college (1 Viewer)

VySky

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Such an overachiever.

I would like to hear what the runners edge was?

Was it all the training and preparation that led to breaking 2 school records?

Nutrition?

Maybe it’s just a gift of talent?

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A biological male who now identifies as female recently set two new track-and-field records for the Rochester Institute of Technology, prompting concern and anger among advocates who say it’s unfair to women competitors.
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VySky said:
Such an overachiever.

I would like to hear what the runners edge was?

Was it all the training and preparation that led to breaking 2 school records?

Nutrition?

Maybe it’s just a gift of talent?

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www.thecollegefix.com

Transgender runner breaks two women’s track and field records for New York college | The College Fix

Wins prompt concern and anger among advocates who say it’s unfair to women competitors.
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A college record? Maybe the college should have spent more on developing their female athletes.
 
Women and men should compete in the same events. Gender (or sex) segregation is patronizing. If the best performing woman is knocked out in the heats, you can still count her time as the "best for a woman". This works for marathon running, why not for all individual sports?

Team sports are more problematic. I guess I'd leave the decision of who qualifies for the Men's team or the Woman's team, up to the national body for that sport.
 
Ug make hammer said:
Women and men should compete in the same events. Gender (or sex) segregation is patronizing. If the best performing woman is knocked out in the heats, you can still count her time as the "best for a woman". This works for marathon running, why not for all individual sports?

Team sports are more problematic. I guess I'd leave the decision of who qualifies for the Men's team or the Woman's team, up to the national body for that sport.
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Where do we, if at all, draw the line in regards to your recommendation?

Should men fight women in cage matches? How about boxing? Maybe compete in basketball?
 
VySky said:
Where do we, if at all, draw the line in regards to your recommendation?

Should men fight women in cage matches? How about boxing? Maybe compete in basketball?
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Cage fighting and boxing should simply be banned. As should dueling with pistols or swords.

Basketball is a team sport, and as I said before the rules should be different. The rules should be set by the national body for that sport, with differentiation according to weight or age if they choose that. It might make it difficult for the Olympic or World Championship bodies, but I don't care that much. They can hold Men only, Women only, and Open competitions if the world body so decides.

European handball is an example of a unisex sport. They're required to have equal numbers of men and women on each team (so one "questionable" gender person wouldn't make much difference) and as a non-contact sport which, if anything, favors short stature, a team of all women might actually be more competitive than a team of all men. Volleyball is also played with mixed gender teams. Equestrian and shooting events can be unisex without favoring either gender.

Would it be fair to say that you like violence in sport? Do you for instance, prefer to watch motor racing rather than table tennis?

It's a meaningful question, given your manifest desire to protect women ...
 
A biological male who now identifies as female recently set two new track-and-field records for the Rochester Institute of Technology, prompting concern and anger among advocates who say it’s unfair to women competitors.

“Sadie Schreiner set the 200-meter record and qualified for the Atlantic Region Championship with a time of 25.27 seconds at the RIT January Friday Meet. The runner also broke the 300-meter record with a 40.78-second finish,” the National Desk reported Tuesday.
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The Rochester Institute of Technology has around eighteen thousand students. This athlete's shocking new "records" were 18.4% slower than the women's world record (25.27 vs 21.34s) for the 200m and 18.5% slower than the women's world record (40.78 vs 34.41s) for the 300m.* Not exactly a small gap... not exactly exceeding the established range of female athletic performance.

I'd say it must be a slow news day, but we all know what this is: Part of an increasingly-desperate attempt to make the bigots and simpletons believe that trans women are "dominating" women's sports despite not a single world record or even a single world first place having yet been claimed by a trans athlete under established hormone guidelines. In the long run given 'fair' competition we should expect them to claim roughly 1% of world records and firsts... just imagine the ocean of tears if those fair results ever start coming in :LOL:



* Edit: As a baseline for comparison, in the 200m the Rochester men's record is only 12.3% behind the men's world record (21.55 vs 19.19s)... 13.2% gap for Rochester's second best men's record. Seems to pretty heavily support the theory raised by @Ug make hammer that this may simply reflect the college's underinvestment in women's sports.
 
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Ug make hammer said:
Would it be fair to say that you like violence in sport? Do you for instance, prefer to watch motor racing rather than table tennis?

It's a meaningful question
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I’m not much for violence. Matter of fact I avoid it on TV etc. I used to be a boxing fan back during Ali, Frazier etc then gave it up in 85’ after Holmes folded to Spinks. Holmes was the last of the heavyweights IMO.

Oh, and I’m not a neckcar fan but like top fuel and funny car.

Now Patrick held her own in NASCAR 😊
 
VySky said:
I’m not much for violence. Matter of fact I avoid it on TV etc. I used to be a boxing fan back during Ali, Frazier etc then gave it up in 85’ after Holmes folded to Spinks. Holmes was the last of the heavyweights IMO.

Oh, and I’m not a neckcar fan but like top fuel and funny car.

Now Patrick held her own in NASCAR 😊
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Isn't drag racing also quite dangerous? It has even less driver skill required (only the quick reflexes to floor it when the light changes) and is even more a test of manufacturer than Indycar, NASCAR or Formula 1. To be honest, I don't consider any of them to be a sport: sports are a competition between humans, not machines.

But my question was aimed at your attitude to danger in sport. I'm going to take your word for it that you're "not much for violence."

I don't see trans people's role in sport as a political question. I think it's up to the national bodies for each sport to decide, who qualifies for each gender-based sport. And if that leaves some trans weight lifters or netballers without a route to fame and fortune, then too bad for them. We're talking about a tiny minority of people, denied their dream career. They'll just have to do something else, just like most of us who were not born with the attributes to be elite athletes.
 
Simpletruther said:
The dude is a jackass
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Well besides the obvious, was it the training regiment? Maybe a high protein diet?

I'm just itching to hear what the .....cough.... cough.... athletes secret is to success.

Maybe he/she/it will thank God but I highly doubt that taking all things into consideration.
 
Ug make hammer said:
A college record? Maybe the college should have spent more on developing their female athletes.
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That's really your take? The female athletes were poorly trained? That the record breaker was trans had nothing to do with it?
 
VySky said:
Such an overachiever.

I would like to hear what the runners edge was?

Was it all the training and preparation that led to breaking 2 school records?

Nutrition?

Maybe it’s just a gift of talent?

—————-


www.thecollegefix.com

Transgender runner breaks two women’s track and field records for New York college | The College Fix

Wins prompt concern and anger among advocates who say it’s unfair to women competitors.
www.thecollegefix.com www.thecollegefix.com
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Who cares? Just as a 7 foot woman could dunk on a 5'5" man, a transgender woman might have an advantage because of her genetics and physique. Sports are about leveraging such advantages. Funny how you choose this out of all the real problems out there to care about.

If it bothers you that a transgendered female beat a non-transgendered female in athletics, just put an asterisk beside the victory (in your own mind) and call it a day. Why should other people have to suffer because you have too much time and privilege on your hands to care about real issues?
 
Rochester institute of technology? Bigots are digging deep for these all important stories.
 
John3945 said:
That's really your take? The female athletes were poorly trained? That the record breaker was trans had nothing to do with it?
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As explained in post #7 (ugh, those damn boring facts, right?), Rochester's men's record is less than 13% shy of the men's world record, while this new 'record' for women at that college hyped up in the OP is over 18% shy of the women's world record: A performance gap like that kind of implies that Rochester invests considerably less in its women's athletics than men's.

Thankyou to @VySky for his thread fearlessly championing the need to invest more in women's sports!
 
Ug make hammer said:
Women and men should compete in the same events. Gender (or sex) segregation is patronizing. If the best performing woman is knocked out in the heats, you can still count her time as the "best for a woman". This works for marathon running, why not for all individual sports?

Team sports are more problematic. I guess I'd leave the decision of who qualifies for the Men's team or the Woman's team, up to the national body for that sport.
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This is just a nonsense take.

There are gendered divisions in sports for a reason.

We don't have to defend trans people competing in sports to support trans people.

The very tiny percentage of trans people trying to compete in sports are doing more damage to the trans movement than the most anti-trans people on the planet.
 
I'm waiting for the next headline:
"Canadian trans woman migrates to Jamaica and DEMOLISHES competitors in ice hockey!"

Is it her diet? Her supportive family? We'll never know :LOL:
 
VySky said:
Such an overachiever.

I would like to hear what the runners edge was?

Was it all the training and preparation that led to breaking 2 school records?

Nutrition?

Maybe it’s just a gift of talent?

—————-


www.thecollegefix.com

Transgender runner breaks two women’s track and field records for New York college | The College Fix

Wins prompt concern and anger among advocates who say it’s unfair to women competitors.
www.thecollegefix.com www.thecollegefix.com
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Crazy, but watch the left herein support this insanity......that should tell people all they need to know.
 
I imagine eventually rules will come out where a person can’t transition during the course of their college career and switch from competing on the men’s teams to competing on the women’s teams.

There are very few trans athletes of note - so this is more faux-rage than anything else.

But I suspect one sport after another will develop rules that allow trans athlete participation but set guidelines.

Personally I think a fair guideline would be if you start college competing in mens category then you can’t switch to womens during the course of your time there….and vice versa.

The only reason I could potentially care about the topic more than casual discussion is because scholarships can be involved as is the number of players allowed on a team.

Do I think there is anything to be really upset about? No. Do I think organizations are going to have to eventually come up with better guidance? Yes.
 
Dans La Lune said:
Who cares? Just as a 7 foot woman could dunk on a 5'5" man, a transgender woman might have an advantage because of her genetics and physique. Sports are about leveraging such advantages. Funny how you choose this out of all the real problems out there to care about.

If it bothers you that a transgendered female beat a non-transgendered female in athletics, just put an asterisk beside the victory (in your own mind) and call it a day. Why should other people have to suffer because you have too much time and privilege on your hands to care about real issues?
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How about a 7' man dunking on a woman?

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I am pro lgtb but I disagree with biological men competing with women. Definitely unfair advantage. Same goes for biological women competing with men
 
99percenter said:
I am pro lgtb but I disagree with biological men competing with women. Definitely unfair advantage. Same goes for biological women competing with men
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How long has it been since the Boy Scouts started taking in girls?

Things decay.
 
Ug make hammer said:
Women and men should compete in the same events. Gender (or sex) segregation is patronizing. If the best performing woman is knocked out in the heats, you can still count her time as the "best for a woman". This works for marathon running, why not for all individual sports?

Team sports are more problematic. I guess I'd leave the decision of who qualifies for the Men's team or the Woman's team, up to the national body for that sport.
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If you want to get rid of women's sports, thats the way to do it. Mayhaps you should ask them first, what they want to do.
 
If they could find enough men to play in the WNBA and womens soccer...the skill level might become watchable.

Good job...lefties...you are destroying womens sports over your inane support of delusional men that think they are women.
 
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