Dysphoria is. Not all transgender folks suffer from dysphoria.
Nope.
They did before, when they created the newer rules. Why shouldn't they now, in order to correct their mistake?
You need to tell them that.
Because medical processes are required to complete the transition.
That's true, and if they don't suffer from "dysphoria" then that means they are not uncomfortable with their gender as compared to their sex. They don't feel that incongruity. So, they might be a woman in a man's body, but they suffer no psychological issues from being such, and if that's the case, then that person does not need to be shot up with drugs and have their genitals removed, since there is nothing to correct.
Sure, but the DSM-V is not a legal code or a tome. It's one of many tools, and many practicing psychologists have a lot of issues with the DSM-V. There are alternative tools which are often used -- including the International Classification of Diseases (ICD), Research Domain Criteria (RDoC), Psychodynamic Diagnostic Manual–2 (PDM), and Operationalized Psychodynamic Diagnosis (OPD).
LOL, there you go again, pretending that someone is "punching down." It's always the same with your side - you always have shove in insults and silencing techniques. Your opponents don't have a different view of it -- they're "yahoos" who are "punching down." Typical of the far Left, which makes everything personal, and has become almost incapable of having a discussion wherein someone disagrees without personally attacking their opponents.
That's utter bullshit. Dysphoria is acute distress. Please attempt to be more honest.
Which of those list transgenderism itself as a mental illness?
Now are you saying elected surgeries should be outlawed?
Dude, it's more than obvious that you hate transgendered folks. You post about them nonstop. It's a huge issue for you.
Not in the least. There is no need to transition unless there is a dysphoria - meaning a dissatisfaction or anxiety produced by the feeling of being mismatched with one's birth sex. If one doesn't have the dysphoria, then by definition that means that one is comfortable feeling like a woman in a man's body. And, of course, your side is supposed to accept that. Your side says flat out that gender isn't sex, and that one's gender doesn't have to match one's physical sex, and sometimes it fluctuates back and forth -- gender fluid - where one feels man one day, and woman the next. You can't "transition" in that example, right? And, if the person is not dysphoric, then there is no treatment necessary.
Sure,, but a person who likes feet sexually, and is otherwise not bothered by it, does not have a disorder. The person is fine, with a predilection for feet. Whereas someone who likes feet that way, and suffers anxiety as a result, needs psychological treatment to help with that. Similarly, a person who says they are a man in a woman's body, but who has no anxiety, depression or adjustment issues about it, doesn't need treatment in any way. There is nothing to treat.
An adult can do whatever elective plastic surgery they might like, as long as doctors are willing to do it. My only concern on that front is that the gender ideologues need to leave the kids alone.
Skin color does not determine your personality.
No, that's absurd.
Where is the science to support it? Your slippery slope fallacies are noted. Conservatives made these same claims that if we permitted people to marry their same sex spouses then people would be marrying trees, cars and animals. It didn't happen and this is just more of your inability to critically think through change and instead rely on fear and absurdity. You oppose change because it seems unknown to you and that unknown is terrifying, so you oppose it with every available options. Education instead is the solution.
It looks like we "need" some "rational" categories. Can I suggest
Trans male, trans-men or trans guys are FtM, AFAB(assigned female at birth) born biologically female and transition to male because of their male gender idneity. The numbers are approx the same as trans females.
I never said transgenderism WAS a mental illness. I said that IF IT'S NOT - IF - it's not -- then it doesn't require medical treatment. You disagree. You think something that is not a mental illness and which is "insignificant" in its impact on the person, needs to be treated with drugs and surgery. If you want to defend that ground, have at it.
I don't post about them any more than you do. I don't hate them at all. You need to cut the crap with this BS you and your ilk routinely spout -- my disagreement with the movement, and its irrationality and its theory in general is not "hate." It's disagreement. It's not violence. It's not bigotry. It's not hate. I disagree. And, when I say I think the kids should be left alone, that isn't hate. That's care for the children, who don't know any better and who can be manipulated at a young age. Parents and teachers getting after young kids - as young as 4 and 5 and 6 and discussing issues of gender and sexuality with them at all - is very inappropriate and damaging. It's not cool. And, your side wants to do more of it. Your side needs to stop. Adults can do what they want with their doctors -- leave the kids alone.
That suggests that a person is not a transman, unless they have actually undergone transitioning. Is that what you are saying? A male who identifies as a woman is not a transwoman, unless he/she has physically/medically transitioned? That would be a departure from what is usually stated by your side as what it means to be trans.
If your side would follow the same rule, I'd be glad to oblige. But your side feels free to comment on every part of society, and demand wholesale modification to all aspects of society without any reticence at all. If your side grants itself that privilege, I don't see why I should limit myself.Run a few marathons then voice your opinion...
My point is that you are NOT ALLOWED to not have an opinion.
Really, my experience is that if I take the position "I really don't care what you do to whom as long as everyone is consenting to it and it isn't done in the streets so that it scares the horses - thank you. That's the end of the conversation" the worse reaction that I am going to get is a pouting look because I don't choose to dispute something that doesn't affect me, has never affected me, will never effect me, and which I simply don't give a damn about.
Get your definition straight and get back to me
Indeed, and so is when the mind believes the body what it is.
Indeed, I will agree that the nosy, prudish, snoops do tend to get impacted by stuff that isn't really any of their business and which they wouldn't even be aware of if they weren't nosy, prudish, snoops. I will NOT agree that I should mindlessly go along with them in their condemnation of something that harms no one and which they have no desire to do themselves.
The subject of this thread is an adult athlete. But you knew that, you just want to dogwhistle some more.
LOL, they care about public opinion in general, which is why you and your ilk try to use silencing techniques, insult, namecalling, etc., in order to cow your opposition into keeping silent on the topic.
No.
Yes. Its a mental health issue. Or they are furries.
That is not what many conservative churches believe.
That's not the entirety of the subject. Being against allowing males to compete against females in sports has nothing to do with opposing the right of an adult to have plastic surgery to make his body mimic the opposite sex.