Too bad they cant answer

[iguanaman]

What does the S in NSDAP stand for. The Nazis ran and huge central socialist government.

The Nazi's supplied slave labor to companies who made fortunes under their rule. They were no more socialists than Kim Jung-il is a democratic leader. He calls his country the "Democratic People's Republic of Korea". Names mean nothing and Hitler's promise to eliminate the "bolsheviks" was key to his support by the wealthy industrialists. He kept his promise too.

It’s a largely forgotten piece of history, but in 1932 the German Nazi Party was facing financial ruin. How did the Nazis move from being broke to being in control of the German government just a year later? The Nazi Party was bailed out by German industrialists in early 1933.
The industrialists who led the way were two huge German firms, I.G. Farben and Krupp. Leaders of both of companies were among the few civilians who were later charged with war crimes at the Nuremberg Tribunals after World War II. These trials placed the story of their financial and moral support of the Nazis into the historical record. Krupp was a huge arms manufacturer. I.G. Farben was a vast chemical company which made everything from Bayer aspirin to Zyklon B, the poison used in the gas chambers.

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/how-big-business-bailed-out-nazis

 

[lacesaver]

Why would I even attempt to define White Supremacy to someone who thinks "democratic" is defined as "totalitarian"?

Contrary to your opinion, things can be both. A combination of things is possible in all aspects of life.

A woman an the outside can have a penis......both

 

[Questerr]

Contrary to your opinion, things can be both. A combination of things is possible in all aspects of life.

A woman an the outside can have a penis......both

Explain how something can be democratic and totalitarian.

 

[Grand Mal]

Too bad we cant ask the 100,000,000 people that socialism killed last century, if they think socialism was a good idea.

How any fools can support socialism is beyond comprehension. It is simply not logical.

Why stop at 100,000,000? Why didn't you say 200,000,000? 275,000,000? 342,000,000?

 

[lacesaver]

Explain how something can be democratic and totalitarian.

It looks like a Democracy on the outside, Totalitarian on the inside.

In the most simplest of terms. When you strip away all the details, try looking at the basics of things.

Humans make things so complicated. Life doesn’t have to be complicated. Life is fun......if you let it be.

 

[Questerr]

It looks like a Democracy on the outside, Totalitarian on the inside.

In the most simplest of terms. When you strip away all the details, try looking at the basics of things.

Humans make things so complicated. Life doesn’t have to be complicated. Life is fun......if you let it be.

How can something "look like a democracy" without actually being one?

 

[lacesaver]

How can something "look like a democracy" without actually being one?

Great question! Could it be a Democracy when it wants to be? When it’s supreme leader is happy.

Totalitarian when the leader is angry?

One person is in control, so yes you are correct that it is a Totalitarian government. What if, the leader decides to be a Democracy for a day.....never letting it really take hold.

Yes, Nazi Germany had aspects of socialism.

Even in America, everyone talks about a Democracy, we are a Republic, with aspects of a Democracy.

When is something actually one thing?

Have humans complicated everything?

 

[Questerr]

Great question! Could it be a Democracy when it wants to be? When it’s supreme leader is happy.

Totalitarian when the leader is angry?

One person is in control, so yes you are correct that it is a Totalitarian government. What if, the leader decides to be a Democracy for a day.....never letting it really take hold.

Yes, Nazi Germany had aspects of socialism.

Even in America, everyone talks about a Democracy, we are a Republic, with aspects of a Democracy.

When is something actually one thing?

Have humans complicated everything?

Then it wouldn’t look like a democracy. So you’re back to your failed premise.

If one person has that much control it would neither look like nor be a democracy.

America is a democracy. We stopped being a republic in its classical definition when the 19th Amendment was passed. Otherwise you could argue we are a republic in that we are not an aristocratic state, but that’s a fairly useless definition.

 

[less right]

Dont you know any history?

I don't know any "proven history" that I can't prove.

 

[lacesaver]

Then it wouldn’t look like a democracy. So you’re back to your failed premise.

If one person has that much control it would neither look like nor be a democracy.

America is a democracy. We stopped being a republic in its classical definition when the 19th Amendment was passed. Otherwise you could argue we are a republic in that we are not an aristocratic state, but that’s a fairly useless definition.

I have failed, thank you, for your education on governments.

Interesting!! American seems like a Republic and a Democracy to me now!! Thanks again for enlightening me..... further.

 

[Questerr]

I have failed, thank you, for your education on governments.

Interesting!! American seems like a Republic and a Democracy to me now!! Thanks again for enlightening me..... further.

America is a democracy, full stop. It stopped being a republic (that is a non-aristocratic oligarchy in which an enfranchised minority rule over a disenfranchised majority) with the passage of the 19th Amendment and extension of the franchise to the majority of the population.

You could say America is a "republic" in that it is a non-aristocratic government, but that's a useless definition. Almost all the countries in the world are republics by that definition.

 

[Logical1]

North Korea calls itself a "Democratic Republic", does that mean North Korea is a democracy?

Fun fact: the term "privatization" was invented by economists to describe what the Nazis did when they moved industries nationalized by the Weimar Republic back into private, for-profit hands.

But the Nazi ran a huge centralized government that was strictly socialist. As with any socialist gov, the gov controlled everything. You can blather all you want but the Nazi gov was socialism in it truest form.

 

[Questerr]

But the Nazi ran a huge centralized government that was strictly socialist. As with any socialist gov, the gov controlled everything. You can blather all you want but the Nazi gov was socialism in it truest form.

Prior to the war, the Nazis largely decentralized their economy and had very few socialist programs that weren't holdovers from the time of Bismarck and Kaiser. They centralized more during the war, but so did literally every other combatant in WW2.

The Nazis were FASCISM in its truest form.

 

[Logical1]

Why stop at 100,000,000? Why didn't you say 200,000,000? 275,000,000? 342,000,000?

Then we would both be wrong.

 

[Atreus21]

Millions of people die every year because they can’t afford food, shelter, or medicine/medical treatment. They die because capitalism prioritizes profits over human lives.

Capitalism has done more to life people out of poverty than any other system.

 

[pocket aces]

Too bad we cant ask the 100,000,000 people that socialism killed last century, if they think socialism was a good idea.

How any fools can support socialism is beyond comprehension. It is simply not logical.

I’m sorry you don’t have any friends.

 

[Questerr]

Capitalism has done more to life people out of poverty than any other system.

Cool. It also kills millions of people every single year.

 

[lacesaver]

America is a democracy, full stop. It stopped being a republic (that is a non-aristocratic oligarchy in which an enfranchised minority rule over a disenfranchised majority) with the passage of the 19th Amendment and extension of the franchise to the majority of the population.

You could say America is a "republic" in that it is a non-aristocratic government, but that's a useless definition. Almost all the countries in the world are republics by that definition.

You have said some interesting things. Which we can discuss for a long long time. This is my understanding of it....

Republic vs. Democracy

Whether it’s right or wrong, it makes sense to me, in a legal aspect.

If we agree or disagree, really has no meaning! We (you and I) don’t control the government, we only have a voice to express our opinions. Not sure what, full stop means?

I see, what I see! You see what you see. When we are on trial, you may want a jury based on Republic law to preside.

We are represented by people, we vote in. A public gives us that right.

I am partial to the minority getting a say in things, seems that’s what a Republic gets us.

Am I wrong, you might think so.......it doesn’t matter to me. You may call it a Democracy, you have that right. Our government will be what it is.....regardless of our conversations.

I do appreciate your comments.

 

[lacesaver]

I’m sorry you don’t have any friends.

I don’t think Logical1 is as bad as we think!!! He has a big heart......

If you respond, are you his friend??

 

[Atreus21]

Cool. It also kills millions of people every single year.

How?

 

[Questerr]

How?

Exactly how I stated in the post you quoted.

 

[lacesaver]

Exactly how I stated in the post you quoted.

So capitalism, is responsible for people’s deaths.

Can I break this statement down to its core? Yes!

Some Humans engage in Capitalism. The act of selfishness, to gain profit. Acceptable behavior by most humans. Some humans live off the Government, socialism. Then that human makes a decision to do with that profit, as they choose. After, giving the government its share.....for its programs of spending money.

The humans choice (free will) with their profits can be anything. Socialism, giving to others less fortunate. Dictatorship, giving to only what one decides for themselves. Republic, giving to what a consensus of all decide. Democracy, giving to what a majority group decides.

With Capitallistic thinking, comes different ways of thinking, of what to do with profits, how to treat other humans, how to present yourself to the world. How to live your life.

Because you participate in Capitalism, doesn’t make you a killer. Free will or the choice of a human being, is the freedom, American gives us! The Bill of Rights gives us rights.

Laws (the Constitution) is in place to persuade humans to live by the rules of law. Capitalism doesn’t tell humans to break the laws (kill). The human mind makes its own decisions on how it wants to behave. It may mimic behaviors. It may stand on its own, face the criticism, consequences. It may fall in line with the masses. It may pick a side. It may bounce around? It may find the flaws....

Every human has a choice and chance. Not an easy one for those at the bottom. Capitalism gives most humans a chance, choice, if they fight for it. (Non-violent)

For those humans at the bottom, the Government programs are in place to give them a hand. To lift them up, add to their self-confidence. To become individuals in a Capitalistic society, pay taxes and start the whole process over again.

They can Fight for themselves, their ideas, feelings, thoughts within the laws written.

Are there humans that don’t kill because of Capitalistic greed? Yes! Does greed and profit trump human life in a Capitalistic society. Yes and No. Every human is different in how they react.

Human behavior is responsible for deaths.......the world is on a collision course, with trying to control human behaviors.

If every human choose to kill, the human next to them. Half of the population would be gone!!! How would that help Capitalism? Capitalism needs humans to grow......Yes! Capitalism sees humans who don’t participate in it a problem. That’s life, get over yourself (Capitalism). Deal with it!!!!

Every human life is valued. All humans are important. Even the ones we don’t like.

 

[Luckyone]

Too bad we cant ask the 100,000,000 people that socialism killed last century, if they think socialism was a good idea.

How any fools can support socialism is beyond comprehension. It is simply not logical.

Any ideal has its negatives with the wrong people in charge. Socialism, in and itself, is not a bad form of government. It is the peoople in charge that makes it wrong or right. Stalin, for example, brought bad socialism. Sweden, for example, brings good socialism.

You banter the word "socialism" as if it is a bad idea. Here is the definition of Socialism:

a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

You tell me why this kind of an ideal would kill 1000,000,000. No, it was not Socialism that killed them but the rulers in charge that killed them. It was the people that wanted to be dicatators of Socialism that killed those people. Not the concept itself.

Socialism can be supported when the guidelines are set and followed, like all the Democratic Socialist countries are doing now (Sweeden, Norway, Finland, Australia, New Zealand).

As such, making this kind of a statement shows that you are misinformed and biased.

The other side of the coin (Capitalism) has also caused a lot of deaths and misery. I can easily say that Capitalism here in the U.S. has killed at least 400,000 recently. Trump was the perfect example of a Capitalistic leader that made decisions by himself that caused 400,000 to die of the virus unnecessarily.

 

[aociswundumho]

Any ideal has its negatives with the wrong people in charge. Socialism, in and itself, is not a bad form of government. It is the peoople in charge that makes it wrong or right. Stalin, for example, brought bad socialism. Sweden, for example, brings good socialism.

Socialism was abandoned by Sweden when the filthy commie Olof Palme was rejected by the Swedish people in the 70s because they saw the writing on the wall and stopped it before it was too late. He was just like Bernie Sanders: a rotten democratic socialist who luved Fidel Castro, isn't that right @Juks ?

You banter the word "socialism" as if it is a bad idea. Here is the definition of Socialism:

a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

That's correct. So how does the community own or control (regulate) the means of production and distribution? Ninety-nine percent of the time it's done via the state. Sometimes the state nationalizes industries, like in the USSR, and other times the state controls industry while maintaining the illusion of private ownership, which is what the Nazis did.

You tell me why this kind of an ideal would kill 1000,000,000. No, it was not Socialism that killed them but the rulers in charge that killed them. It was the people that wanted to be dicatators of Socialism that killed those people. Not the concept itself.

Do you support collective farms and government-run grocery stores? Every single time that has been tried the result has been famine and massive levels of starvation. There are many reasons why socialism ends up killing millions. It needs to be a separate post.

 

[lacesaver]

Any ideal has its negatives with the wrong people in charge. Socialism, in and itself, is not a bad form of government. It is the peoople in charge that makes it wrong or right. Stalin, for example, brought bad socialism. Sweden, for example, brings good socialism.

You banter the word "socialism" as if it is a bad idea. Here is the definition of Socialism:

a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

You tell me why this kind of an ideal would kill 1000,000,000. No, it was not Socialism that killed them but the rulers in charge that killed them. It was the people that wanted to be dicatators of Socialism that killed those people. Not the concept itself.

Socialism can be supported when the guidelines are set and followed, like all the Democratic Socialist countries are doing now (Sweeden, Norway, Finland, Australia, New Zealand).

As such, making this kind of a statement shows that you are misinformed and biased.

The other side of the coin (Capitalism) has also caused a lot of deaths and misery. I can easily say that Capitalism here in the U.S. has killed at least 400,000 recently. Trump was the perfect example of a Capitalistic leader that made decisions by himself that caused 400,000 to die of the virus unnecessarily.

I like a lot of what you have said. Positive and Negative in everything. We as humans have to decide how we want to see it, perceive it. Does time and looking back on history, push us in a certain direction.

Could a balanced combination of everything be the key to a harmonious existence......

Then is sounds like the hate for one man comes into judgement. Yes! The President has some blame on his shoulders, will he admit it? No! His ego is to inflated to care. There were times his ego did step aside. Few! But it did.

As I see the pandemic issue, it was going to kill, regardless of precautions. What virus has ever been 100% contained?